Why Do Different Materials Use Different Units for the Absorption Coefficient?

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The discussion revolves around the differing units used for the absorption coefficient (##\alpha##) in various materials, specifically comparing water (measured in ##\text{length}^{-1}##) to other substances like chlorophyll and cellulose (measured in ##\text{length}^{2}.\text{mass}^{-1}##). Participants explore the implications of these units for calculating the extinction length, which is the thickness of material required to absorb a significant percentage of incident light.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the relationship between the units ##\text{length}^{-1}## and ##\text{length}^{2}.\text{mass}^{-1}##, suggesting that this may indicate a difference in how substances are presented for spectroscopy.
  • There is a proposal that the absorption coefficient for other materials may require additional information, such as density or concentration, to calculate the extinction length accurately.
  • One participant notes that water is typically measured as a pure substance, while other materials might be measured in dilute solutions, necessitating concentration data for calculations.
  • Another participant discusses the potential confusion between the absorption coefficient ##\alpha## and the molar extinction coefficient ##\epsilon##, highlighting that some references insist on ##\alpha## being expressed in ##\text{length}^{-1}##.
  • Concerns are raised about the units used for concentration in the literature, with one participant expressing confusion over the use of ##\mu g/cm^2## instead of ##\mu g/cm^3##.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate units for the absorption coefficient and the implications for calculating extinction lengths. There is no consensus on how to reconcile the differences in units or the definitions of the coefficients.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings regarding the definitions of absorption coefficients, the need for concentration data in certain calculations, and the implications of using different measurement techniques for various materials.

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Why is the absorption coefficient (##\alpha##) of water is always given using the units ##\text{length}^{-1}##, while for other materials it is often given by ##\text{length}^{2}.\text{mass}^{-1}##?

For instance, this paper uses ##cm^{-1}## for water and yet ##cm^2 / \mu g## for other substances (such as chlorophyll, cellulose and lignin). I have seen the same in other literature.

For a given wavelength, I am trying to calculate the extinction length ##L=4.6/\alpha## (the thickness of material required to absorb 99% of incident light). For water this calculation is straightforward. For instance, at a wavelength of 10 micron, the absorption coefficient of water is ##\alpha \approx 1000\ cm^{-1}##, corresponding to ##L \approx 40 \ \mu m##.

But how do we handle this calculation when the absorption coefficient of the material is instead given by ##cm^2 / \mu g##? :confused:

Any explanation is greatly appreciated.
 
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What is the relation between length-1 and length2.mass-1? Does that suggest anything to you?
What is the difference between water and these other substances, in terms of the form in which they are presented for spectroscopy?
What extra information do you need to calculate the extinction length?
 
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mjc123 said:
What is the relation between length-1 and length2.mass-1? Does that suggest anything to you?
What is the difference between water and these other substances, in terms of the form in which they are presented for spectroscopy?
What extra information do you need to calculate the extinction length?

Did they multiply it by a volume and divide it by a mass? Since density is equal to mass divided by volume (##\rho=m/V##), it appears like they are dividing by density of something.

For water, I presume they pour it into a cuvet and then place it in a spectrophotometer. I am not sure how those other substances were measured. Sometimes substances are dissolved in a liquid, but I think the paper that I linked to uses some kind of remote sensing to estimate ##\alpha##.

What other information do we need to calculate the extinction length?
 
Density, or mass concentration.

I am assuming that water is measured as a pure substance (or a solvent in great excess over solute), then you only need an absorption coefficient in length-1 as concentration is not a variable. I assume the other things are measured in dilute solution in water, so you need to know the concentration (in µg/cm3 to judge from your units). Then the absorbance is given by
A = log(I0/It) = αcL
where α is in cm2/µg, c is in µg/cm3 and L in cm.
(The units I am familiar with are L/mol/cm, where concentration is expressed in moles per litre.)

[Actually, considering your definition of extinction length, I think that should be ln rather than log, to give the factor of 4.6. The extinction length of a solution of solute is then 4.6/(αc), and is concentration dependent.]
 
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Hi mjc123,

So, if I have the coefficient given in cm2/µg, I simply need to multiply it by the desired concentraion, and then use ##L=4.6/\alpha c## to find the extinction length?

And I think the quantity given in cm2/µg is not exactly the ##\alpha## which is seen in the following Beer-Lambert law (which should be a decadic logarithm relationship):

$$I(z)=I_{0}e^{-\alpha z}.$$

Some references explicitly say that the units for ##\alpha## has to be length-1. In a few textbooks, the quantity that you referred to is called the "molar extinction coefficient" (denoted by ##\epsilon##), so that:

$$A = \log_{10} \left( \frac{I_0}{I_t} \right) = \epsilon \times c \times l,$$

where they define ##l## as the length of the cell that contains the solution (not the extinction length ##L##). I think maybe some authors are conflating ##\epsilon## and ##\alpha## by calling both of them the "absorption coefficient".

As a side-note, the paper that I linked to uses µg/cm2 as the unit for concentration ##c##. This has made me very confused since this is mass.length-2, rather than mass.length-3...
 
There is some inconsistency, but I think the general convention is that α is used for the natural log extinction coefficient, and ε for the decadic extinction coefficient:
It/I0 = e-αcl = 10-εcl
The usual units are L/mol/cm for both.
If your paper was using remote sensing, then they should know the area being interrogated, but not the thickness. Then they would measure the amount of substance per unit area, which is equal to cl, hence the ML-2 units. If you don't know the actual concentration, you can't define an extinction length - it could be weak and thick, or strong and thin.
 
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