Why isn't bond dissociation energy/bond enthaply measured in Newtons?

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Why isn't average bond dissociation energy/bond enthalpy measured in units of force/Newtons (kg*m/s^2)?
I understand every bond chemically has a length and energy to break, and energy is Newton*meters.
Is the Bond enthaply/Bond disassociation energy equivalent to the force needed to break the bond * the bond length?

Why don't we say, to break the bond from O to H we need to put magnets on left of the O and right of the H and apply some pulling force of XYZ?
 
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adf89812 said:
Is the Bond enthaply/Bond disassociation energy equivalent to the force needed to break the bond * the bond length?
No, it’s the energy required to move the atoms infinitely far apart. Think of it this way: force is the gradient of energy (derivative of energy with respect to distance)
$$F = \nabla E \left(=\frac{dE}{dx}\right)$$
At the equilibrium bond length, energy is at a minimum, meaning that the gradient (and therefore the force) is zero—this makes sense because a system at equilibrium has no net force acting on it.
 
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TeethWhitener said:
No, it’s the energy required to move the atoms infinitely far apart. Think of it this way: force is the gradient of energy (derivative of energy with respect to distance)
$$F = \nabla E \left(=\frac{dE}{dx}\right)$$
At the equilibrium bond length, energy is at a minimum, meaning that the gradient (and therefore the force) is zero—this makes sense because a system at equilibrium has no net force acting on it.
It's an accepted model to represent atoms diatomic as ball attached to spring attached to ball so equilibrium is false. They can't be infinitely far apart because I can disassociate hydroxide in a small vial of very small size.
 
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adf89812 said:
It's an accepted model to represent atoms diatomic as ball attached to spring attached to ball so equilibrium is false. They can't be infinitely far apart because I can disassociate hydroxide in a small vial of very small size.
I have no idea where you’re getting this from. I think you’re trying to say that bonds can be modeled as harmonic oscillators. And of course harmonic oscillators have an equilibrium point. It’s at the bottom of the potential well.

Also, the bond dissociation energy is a limit as the distance between atoms goes to infinity. Practically, with most bonds, once atoms are separated by more than a few angstroms they’re essentially dissociated.
 
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adf89812 said:
It's an accepted model to represent atoms diatomic as ball attached to spring attached to ball so equilibrium is false. They can't be infinitely far apart because I can disassociate hydroxide in a small vial of very small size.
The harmonic oscillator is an approximation. And you can in principle model a molecule as a balls on sticks that oscillate like a spring, but it's usually not sufficient for quantum mechanical calculations. Molecular dynamics force fields often model bonds with Hooke's law.
 

FAQ: Why isn't bond dissociation energy/bond enthaply measured in Newtons?

1. What is bond dissociation energy/bond enthalpy?

Bond dissociation energy (BDE) or bond enthalpy is the amount of energy required to break a bond between two atoms in a molecule, resulting in the formation of separate atoms or radicals. It is typically expressed in units of energy, such as kilojoules per mole (kJ/mol) or calories per mole (cal/mol).

2. Why is bond dissociation energy expressed in energy units instead of force units like Newtons?

Bond dissociation energy is a measure of energy, not force. While Newtons measure force (the interaction that causes an object to accelerate), bond dissociation energy quantifies the energy required to overcome the attractive forces holding atoms together in a molecule. Therefore, it is more appropriate to express it in energy units.

3. How are bond dissociation energies determined experimentally?

Bond dissociation energies are typically determined through calorimetry or spectroscopy. In calorimetry, the heat absorbed or released during a chemical reaction is measured, allowing scientists to calculate the energy required to break specific bonds. Spectroscopic methods can also provide insights into the energies involved in bond breaking by analyzing the wavelengths of light absorbed or emitted during transitions.

4. Can bond dissociation energies be compared across different molecules?

Yes, bond dissociation energies can be compared across different molecules, but such comparisons should be made with caution. Factors such as the type of atoms involved, the bond order, and the molecular environment can influence the bond strength. Therefore, while BDEs provide a useful framework for comparing bond strengths, they should be interpreted in the context of the specific chemical structures being analyzed.

5. What is the significance of understanding bond dissociation energy?

Understanding bond dissociation energy is crucial in fields such as chemistry, biochemistry, and materials science. It helps predict reaction mechanisms, stability of molecules, and the energy changes that occur during chemical reactions. This knowledge is essential for designing new materials, understanding biological processes, and developing pharmaceuticals.

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