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I don't understand why someone in the first world would want more than 1-2 children. Even now, some people prefer to have more than 3 children.
rootX said:I don't understand why someone in the first world would want more than 1-2 children. Some parents have more than 3 children.
rootX said:I don't understand why someone in the first world would want more than 1-2 children. Even now, some people prefer to have more than 3 children.
rootX said:I don't understand why someone in the first world would want more than 1-2 children. Even now, some people prefer to have more than 3 children.
Kerrie said:You have to consider a person's religious beliefs, as that can be a reason why people have large families. Also, a person's life experience might make them want more children (or none). I have three children because my mom, her father, and myself were all only children and I wanted to expand my family. Being an only child is not all that it is cracked up to be! I can imagine someone who has annoying siblings might decide to not have any children.
CRGreathouse said:Why not?
lisab said:A nice, quiet, calm household.
rootX said:Personally, I don't understand how they deal with the big mess (3-6 small children all crying at once, imagine the headache), how they manage to dedicate appropriate amount of time to each child, and how they get time to take care of children while having other responsibilities like work. Also add paying the mortgages while one partner is off of work every other month.
I would prefer 2.
Office_Shredder said:While one partner is off work every other month?
It used to be only one parent worked, and the other stayed home to raise the kids. What's wrong with that strategy?
Evo said:I grew up in the 60-70's and at that time there was a movement here called "Zero Population Growth". It really had an impact on me. For the first time I realized how much the population was destroying the earth.
I decided to have no children, but my second husband insisted on having children, but I refused to have more than the two that was environmentally sound.
No one "needs" children. More than two per couple is not considered ecologically sustainable.
Office_Shredder said:While one partner is off work every other month?
It used to be only one parent worked, and the other stayed home to raise the kids. What's wrong with that strategy?
They are not naive (at least not generally). People have children knowing it will be challenging. Few people who have had children say they regret it.Kajahtava said:People are naïve and like to believe that having children comes down to what it's in their mind, rather than nappies, annoying 'no' phases, puberty, and then leaving your home in a fight, and finally either not speaking to you again, or putting you away in a home.
And consequently, in their naïvety, they also believe it, because they believe what they like to believe.
Evo said:No one "needs" children.
Not to others though, often enough to their own children.DaveC426913 said:They are not naive (at least not generally). People have children knowing it will be challenging. Few people who have had children say they regret it.
Kajahtava said:I understand ever less why people want children in the third world by the way.
rootX said:1) Everyone deserves a life outside their family. Staying home is just wrong because all you have in your life is your family to take care of when there is a big world beyond your family
2) It would only work if one partner is making sufficient money
Amazing isn't it? How your neurology is wired to make you love a person you don't even know simply because you have subconsciously determined that this individual is highly likely to share the most of your genetic code. Even worse, you subconsciously make yourself feel what is surely just pulling favours out of the principle of selfish genes is some-how a 'beautiful' thing, that you're willing to place one human being ahead of another simply because you've subconsciously determined that person shares more of those selfish genes of yours, magnificent, and highly depressing, not any less interesting.lisab said:Well an amazing thing happens when you have a child. It's like magic - you just want to spend time with your kid - talk, sing, play. Really, it's an incredible transformation.
Kajahtava said:Amazing isn't it? How your neurology is wired to make you love a person you don't even know simply because you have subconsciously determined that this individual is highly likely to share the most of your genetic code. Even worse, you subconsciously make yourself feel what is surely just pulling favours out of the principle of selfish genes is some-how a 'beautiful' thing, that you're willing to place one human being ahead of another simply because you've subconsciously determined that person shares more of those selfish genes of yours, magnificent, and highly depressing, not any less interesting.
Nahh, don't still have them either.rootX said:You never had a child?![]()
So it's bad for the child if you lose attachment after a few months I am to understand from this post of yours?I can understand attachment for first few months/years.. but if it lasts longer than that, it is not only bad for children but also for the parents too IMO.
Precisely. A good life is subjective.Kajahtava said:Besides, how many people that consciously stayed childless you think regretted it? Extra vacation in Spain together...
...a good life indeed.
I beg to differ, I'm pretty sure that people who have children pull their hairs out practically at some point about them thinking it's a big mistake, though not always.DaveC426913 said:Precisely. A good life is subjective.
Some people feel a good life is lived for themselves, some people feel a good life is lived for their children. We all know it is utterly subjective.
Which is why this whole thread is silly.
Having a child is a conscious choice, not merely a selfish or subconscious one. People make that choice knowing that there may be hardships that come with it. Instead of assuming that people who find raising a child stressful would be happier without their child, try asking someone in that situation if they would be happier without children. I'm sure you know someone. Then you may realize how unselfish the selfish gene can be, and how selfish conscious choices too often are.Kajahtava said:I beg to differ, I'm pretty sure that people who have children pull their hairs out practically at some point about them thinking it's a big mistake, though not always.
Though people that consciously decided to not have children never pull their hairs thinking 'OMG, I should've taken children after all.'
In reality it's the opposite of that. It's the poor families producing most of the children.Today, having more children shows a sign of sucess and walethiness.
leroyjenkens said:I also think having a bunch of kids is a little arrogant. What makes your DNA so great that you think it needs to be replicated? Yeah, you're so wonderful that we need more of you.
In reality it's the opposite of that. It's the poor families producing most of the children.
Huckleberry said:Having a child is a conscious choice, not merely a selfish or subconscious one.
MotoH said:For everyone that doesn't have children to reduce the population, I will have 3.
I am thinking of starting a farm and having my stock work there for free. 1,000 acres of corn harvested by children. Now that is they way I want to live.
Borg said:For some reason, my first thought was "Please God, kill me now". [PLAIN]http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy250/HughOfBorg/SuicideSmiley.gif[/QUOTE]
You have just earned 10 more children, and 15 more acres.
MotoH said:You have just earned 10 more children, and 15 more acres.
MotoH said:For everyone that doesn't have children to reduce the population, I will have 3.
I am thinking of starting a farm and having my stock work there for free. 1,000 acres of corn harvested by children. Now that is they way I want to live.
rootX said:What will happen to the land when you die and those 3 kids who would have to decide themselves how to distribute the output?