Why won't a magnet slow down when falling through a copper coil?

In summary, the magnet does not slow down appreciably when falling through a copper coiled around a PVC pipe, but as you notice, not by much. The demonstration is done poorly and the effect can be seen with a much stronger magnet if done correctly.
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dEdt
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Please watch this video (link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN-A3RryOC8) for reference.

As you can see, the magnet does not slow down (at least, not appreciably) when falling through the copper coiled around a PVC pipe, and I can't figure out why.
 
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Because the eddy currrents are too weak for the weight of the magnet.

Try sliding a very strong magnet along a thick piece of copper or aluminum. This will always show the effect.
 
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1. it does
... but as you notice, not by much.

The video is a good example of how not to do this demonstration.
You should have a go doing it yourself.

Off the top of my head...

Notice how the magnet is oriented as it falls through the copper pipe?
The poles are face-on to the walls. The eddy currents form circles about the poles ... the wires in the coil, being turned horizontally, won't let that happen.

Since the coils prevent (big) eddy-currents from forming (no sideways loops) so you only get resistance as the magnetic flux in the coil changes - that is when the magnet enters and leaves the coil. While the magnet is entirely within the coil, the magnetic flux inside the coil is not changing (much/enough) - so no opposing field.

Repeat the experiment with rows of coils down each side of the PVC tube - oriented so the open ends face to tube.
 
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UltrafastPED said:
Try sliding a very strong magnet along a thick piece of copper or aluminum. This will always show the effect.

Or through a copper or aluminum pipe. That's how we do it in a classroom demonstration.
 
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jtbell said:
Or through a copper or aluminum pipe. That's how we do it in a classroom demonstration.
... which is also how they did it in the video, where the demonstration has a pretty substantial copper coil too... presumably it is possible to have the same length and thickness of copper coil as copper pipe, but the pipe is substantially better at slowing the magnets than the coil.
This, I believe, is the essence of the question.

We could rephrase and ask how big the coil would have to be to have the same effect as a given copper pipe of given dimensions?

I'm saying that the insulation on the wire is preventing large eddy currents from forming - since that would involve currents passing through the insulation. Only currents that fit inside the width of the wire will form.

Presumably the effect would be bigger if the tube were small enough to keep the magnet oriented N-S up-down all the time.
 
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FAQ: Why won't a magnet slow down when falling through a copper coil?

Why do magnets not slow down when falling through a copper coil?

Magnets do not slow down when falling through a copper coil because of the concept of electromagnetic induction. When a magnet moves through a conductor, such as a copper coil, it creates a changing magnetic field. This changing magnetic field induces an electric current in the conductor, which in turn creates its own magnetic field. The interaction between the two magnetic fields causes a force that opposes the motion of the magnet, but it does not slow down the magnet's fall.

How does electromagnetic induction work with a falling magnet and copper coil?

Electromagnetic induction works with a falling magnet and copper coil by creating an electric current in the conductor, which then creates its own magnetic field. This magnetic field interacts with the magnetic field of the falling magnet, creating a force that opposes the motion of the magnet. This opposing force is known as electromagnetic drag and it does not slow down the magnet's fall.

Does the speed of the magnet affect the electromagnetic drag force?

Yes, the speed of the magnet does affect the electromagnetic drag force. As the speed of the magnet increases, the rate at which the magnetic field changes also increases. This leads to a stronger induced current and a stronger magnetic field, resulting in a greater force of electromagnetic drag. However, the gravitational force on the magnet will still be greater, allowing it to continue falling at a constant speed.

Can a magnet completely stop while falling through a copper coil?

No, a magnet cannot completely stop while falling through a copper coil. The force of gravity will always be greater than the force of electromagnetic drag, even at terminal velocity. This means that the magnet will continue to fall at a constant speed, but it will never completely stop or reverse direction.

Why is copper often used in experiments involving falling magnets?

Copper is often used in experiments involving falling magnets because it is a good conductor of electricity. This allows for a strong induced current to be created when a magnet moves through a copper coil. Additionally, copper is not magnetic, so it does not interfere with the magnetic field of the falling magnet. This allows for a more accurate and consistent demonstration of electromagnetic induction.

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