Will IDF succeed in their mission?

[Yonoz]

Yonzo it wasnt the border that was attacked, it was a raid deep in Lebanon's Bekaa Valley...

Commando raids are awfully difficult in the mountaineous border area. Besides, it's better destroying the recipient together with the cargo.

 

[Anttech]

The blockade on Lebanon is still in effect. When weapons are being smuggled across a blockaded border, they tend to be attacked.

Changes to

Commando raids are awfully difficult in the mountaineous border area. Besides, it's better destroying the recipient together with the cargo.

Stop the smoke mirrors please

 

[Yonoz]

Stop the smoke mirrors please

I don't know whether you realize the difficulties in tracking a shipment of weapons in civilian cars in the midst of other civilian vehicles on a mountainous road, or the time it is necessary to plan and carry out a surgical airborne raid, or anyone of a myriad of operational factors that limit the IDF's ability to stop weapons smuggling.

 

[Anttech]

Yonzo that is irrelevant to the fact that you are changing the story of what *actually* happened. The Smoking mirrors comment is directed at that. Not the difficulty of of the IDF to take out Hezbollah AFTER a cease-fire has been decided.

You were making comments on Hezbollah's 'dirty tricks' yet Israel is at it too. I brought you up on it, and you spun it to sound like they were attacking a border crossing adhoc on seeing Hezbollah bring arms into Lebanon(which is what it sounded like). Actually what happened was a pre-meditated long range mission into the heart of Lebanon, which Broke the Cease-fire arrangement.

Anyway, (I think I have said this before) people who live in Glass houses shouldn't throw stones

 

[Yonoz]

Yonzo that is irrelevant to the fact that you are changing the story of what *actually* happened. The Smoking mirrors comment is directed at that. Not the difficulty of of the IDF to take out Hezbollah AFTER a cease-fire has been decided.

I think it is very relevant. The blockade is a completely legal form of dispute [EDIT]not covered by the cease-fire agreement[/EDIT]. It just so happens that smuggled weapons are still smuggled weapons, regardless of their distance from the border. Obviously the operation was difficult enough - that unit had its first casualty in years. You cannot expect Israel to allow Hizbullah to arm itself in blatant violation of a UNSC resolution both Israel and Lebanon accepted.

You were making comments on Hezbollah's 'dirty tricks' yet Israel is at it too. I brought you up on it, and you spun it to sound like they were attacking a border crossing adhoc on seeing Hezbollah bring arms into Lebanon(which is what it sounded like). Actually what happened was a pre-meditated long range mission into the heart of Lebanon, which Broke the Cease-fire arrangement.

I know of no military operations that are not pre-meditated.
Must a blockade include ground troops? No. Do the men smuggling the weapons know the IDF will attack them if possible? Yes. Do civilians pass freely? Yes. Are random vehicles simply attacked? No.

Anyway, (I think I have said this before) people who live in Glass houses shouldn't throw stones

You know I find proverbs too simplistic.

 

[Yonoz]

I just heard on the news a previously unknown Syrian organisation declared they will kidnap Israeli soldiers.
If this practice is not clearly shown to be countereffective, it will be repeated, likely within the next few years (cyrus - that's my opinion and speculation, I hope you can take it).

 

[Yonoz]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...LAH?SITE=PAREA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT"

Six weeks after the end of the Lebanon war, the militant Hezbollah group is facing little on-the-ground pressure to give up its weapons and disarm - despite a U.N. cease-fire resolution demanding just that.

The leaders of a U.N. peacekeeping force in south Lebanon say the job is not theirs. And Lebanon's ill-equipped army, some of whose soldiers wear tin-pot helmets and carry outdated M-16 rifles, shows no signs of diving into a confrontation with battle-hardened Hezbollah fighters.

For now, all sides say it's likely full disarmament will happen only in the future as part of a political solution - despite the U.N. resolution that ended the 34-day war on Aug. 14 and required disarmament.

Outdated M16s? Isn't the M16 the standard sidearm in the US military? It is in the IDF.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/768106.html"

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert intends to raise the issue of Palestinian arms smuggling into the Gaza Strip with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice when she visits Israel next week.

Olmert also urged his ministers yesterday to stop issuing statements about peace negotiations with Syria.

The problem of arms smuggling into the Gaza Strip was raised by Shin Bet security service chief Yuval Diskin during yesterday' cabinet meeting. Diskin said that since the disengagement from Gaza in August 2005, an estimated 19 tons of military grade explosives have been smuggled into Gaza from Sinai.

The Shin Bet chief also said that the Egyptian authorities are aware of the ongoing smuggling, and even know the smugglers' identity, yet have avoided taking any action against them, even when Israel has made specific requests for the detention of key individuals.

Public Security Minister Avi Dichter said that for months, Israelis have been waking up to the sounds of Qassam rockets, and accused the defense establishment of failing to provide an adequate response to the Palestinian rocket threat.

Dichter, who is a resident of Ashkelon, which is within Qassam range, said that although it is not necessary to reoccupy the Gaza Strip, it is imperative for the government to rethink its policies in Gaza in view of the continued rocket attacks.

It seems the writing's on the wall for round 2.