Young's Modulus Formula / Steel Cable

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A steel cable with a cross-sectional area of 3.00 cm² and a mass of 2.40 kg/m stretches under its own weight when hung over a vertical cliff. The Young's modulus for steel is given as 2.00 x 10¹¹ N/m². The correct approach involves averaging the force due to the cable's weight, leading to the formula for stretch, ΔL = (500 * F) / (A * Y). The discussion highlights a common mistake in calculating force without averaging, which leads to incorrect results. The correct answer for the stretch is noted as 0.0490 m, emphasizing the importance of proper calculations in physics problems.
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A steel cable 3.00 cm 2 in cross-sectional area has a mass of
2.40 kg per meter of length. If 500 m of the cable is hung
over a vertical cliff, how much does the cable stretch under
its own weight? Take Y steel ϭ 2.00 ϫ 10 11 N/m 2 .Y=([L][/o]F)/(A*delta_L)

My attempt of solution: http://docdro.id/Fft5plu

This problem is driving me crazy, the textbook says the correct answer is 0.0490m. Can anyone tell me where i went wrong?NOTE: This problem was taken from the textbook "Physics for Scientists and Engineers with modern physics. 7h ed, page 360, problem 56"
 
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I can't see your work, the link is no good for me.
Here is the process:
You are given ## 2\times10^{11}\frac{N}{m^2} = \frac{500*F}{A*\Delta L }. ##
(note that area must be changed to square meters)
Rewriting to solve for Delta L:
## \Delta L = \frac{500*F}{A*(2\times10^{11}) }. ##
Force acts linearly on the cable, so it can be averaged to get
##F= 500/2 * 2.4*9.8(N).##
So
## \Delta L = \frac{500*(F)}{A*(2\times10^{11}) }. ##
 
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When i plug in the data into your eq. i get 0.016333333 m which is not the right answer. The link seems to works for me, can anyone else test the link i gave? Thank you Ruber for trying.
 
Are you using .0003 for area or .0001?
 
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Wow! you were right, i plugged in a wrong value, thank you RUber! Could you tell me why the force must be averaged? What i did is use F=M_tot*g=(2.4Kg/m)(500m)(9.8m/s2), but this seems to be wrong.
 
To get the average stress, you need to use half the weight. The local tension in the cable is $$T=\gamma gz_0$$ where z0 is the (unstretched) distance measured up from the bottom. The local stress in the cable is $$\sigma=\frac{\gamma g z_0}{A}$$. The local strain in the cable is $$\epsilon=\frac{\gamma g z_0}{YA}$$ The total stretched length of the cable is $$L=\int_0^{L_0}\left(1+\frac{\gamma g z_0}{YA}\right)dz_0$$
 
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