Covariant Definition and 361 Threads

  1. I

    Parallel propagator and covariant derivative of vector

    Hi all, I'm trying to figure out the link between the connection coefficients (Christoffel symbols), the propagator, and the coordinate description of the covariant derivative with the connection coefficients. As in...
  2. C

    Christoffel Symbol / Covariant derivative

    Homework Statement My teacher solved this in class but I'm not understanding some parts of tis solution. Show that \nabla_i V^i is scalar. Homework Equations \nabla_i V^i = \frac{\partial V^{i}}{\partial q^{i}} + \Gamma^{i}_{ik} V^{k} The Attempt at a Solution To start this...
  3. pellman

    Torsion -> covariant deriv of det(g) non-zero?

    torsion --> covariant deriv of det(g) non-zero? I am missing something here. This paper makes the case (on page 5) that for non-vanishing torsion, the usual invariant volume element \sqrt{-g}d^4x is not appropriate because the covariant derivative of sqrt(-g) is non-zero. This perplexes me...
  4. Matterwave

    Covariant exterior derivative vs regular exterior derivative

    Quick question. Suppose we have a manifold with a metric and a metric compatible symmetric connection. Suppose further that we have a smooth vector field V on this manifold. I see two ways to take the derivative of this vector field. I can regard my vector field as a vector-valued 0-form...
  5. N

    Dual vector is the covariant derivative of a scalar?

    Homework Statement In Wald's text on General Relativity he makes an assertion that I'm not sure why it is allowed mathematically. Here's the basic setup: Let \omega_{b} be a dual vector, \nabla_{b} and \tilde{\nabla}_{b} be two covariant derivatives and f\in\mathscr{F}. Then we may let...
  6. E

    Quick question about interpretation of contravariant and covariant components

    Can the covariant components of a vector, v, be thought of as v multiplied by a matrix of linearly independent vectors that span the vector space, and the contravariant components of the same vector, v, the vector v multiplied by the *inverse* of that same matrix? thinking about it like that...
  7. E

    Quick, simple question about contraviant and covariant components

    Can the covariant components of a vector, v, be thought of as v multiplied by a matrix of linearly independent vectors that span the vector space, and the contravariant components of the same vector, v, the vector v multiplied by the *inverse* of that same matrix? thinking about it like that...
  8. Telemachus

    Covariant Tensor first order, and antisymmetric second order

    Hi there. This is my first time working with tensors, so I have to break the ice I think. I have this exercise, which I don't know how to solve, which says: If V=V_1...V_n is a first order covariant tensor, prove that: T_{ik}=\frac{\partial V_i}{\partial x^k}-\frac{\partial V_k}{\partial x^i}...
  9. Matterwave

    How does the covariant exterior derivative generalize to vector bundles?

    Hi, I have some more questions about this stuff, which, as always, confuses me. I am (extremely slowly) working through Biship and Crittenden, and I'm pretty much at the point where I don't think I can understand it much at all, so, I think instead of trying to go through it all not knowing...
  10. P

    Covariant Bilinears: Fierz Expansion of Dirac gamma matrices products

    Homework Statement So my question is related somehow to the Fierz Identities. I'm taking a course on QFT. My teacher explained in class that instead of using the traces method one could use another, more intuitive, method. He said that we could use the fact that if we garante that we have the...
  11. D

    Covariant and contravariant vecotr questions

    Hi I am trying to learn about covariant and contravariant vectors and derivatives. The videos I have been watching talk about displacement vector as the basis for contravariant vectors and gradient as the basis for covariant vectors. Can somone tlel me the difference between displacemement...
  12. N

    Covariant Derivation of the Ricci Tensor: Einstein's Method Now Online

    The full derivation of the covariant derivative of the Ricci Tensor as Einstein did it, is now available on line at https://sites.google.com/site/generalrelativity101/appendix-c-the-covariant-derivative-of-the-ricci-tensor For those who wish to study it.
  13. F

    Whats the physical meaning of a covariant derivative?

    Hi there! I saw this exercise that we have to calculate the covariant derivative of a vector field (in polar coordinates). Most of them equals zero, but two of them are non-zero, sugesting that this vector field is not constant. What i want to understand is the physical meaning of this values...
  14. N

    Help Covariant Derivative of Ricci Tensor the hard way.

    I am trying to calculate the covariant derivative of the Ricci Tensor the way Einstein did it, but I keep coming up with \nabla_{μ}R_{αβ}=\frac{∂}{∂x^{μ}}R_{αβ}-2\Gamma^{α}_{μ\gamma}R_{αβ} or \nabla_{μ}R_{αβ}=\frac{∂}{∂x^{μ}}R_{αβ}-\Gamma^{α}_{μ\gamma}R_{αβ}-\Gamma^{β}_{μ\gamma}R_{αβ}...
  15. N

    Help Covariant Derivative of Ricci Tensor the hard way.

    I am trying to calculate the covariant derivative of the Ricci Tensor the way Einstein did it, but I keep coming up with \nabla_{μ}R_{αβ}=\frac{∂}{∂x^{μ}}R_{αβ}-2\Gamma^{α}_{μ\gamma}R_{αβ} or \nabla_{μ}R_{αβ}=\frac{∂}{∂x^{μ}}R_{αβ}-\Gamma^{α}_{μ\gamma}R_{αβ}-\Gamma^{β}_{μ\gamma}R_{αβ}...
  16. H

    Covariant and noncovariant Lorentz invariants

    It recently came to my attention that there exists two "kinds" of Lorentz invariants: the covariant and the noncovariant ones. The covariant ones would be Lorentz scalars e.g. fully contracted Lorentz tensors. If one applies the Lorentz transformation to a covariant Lorentz scalar, one would...
  17. pellman

    Covariant derivative of connection coefficients?

    The connection \nabla is defined in terms of its action on tensor fields. For example, acting on a vector field Y with respect to another vector field X we get \nabla_X Y = X^\mu ({Y^\alpha}_{,\mu} + Y^\nu {\Gamma^\alpha}_{\mu\nu})e_\alpha = X^\mu {Y^\alpha}_{;\mu}e_\alpha and we call...
  18. V

    Calculating divergence using covariant derivative

    Homework Statement Using the definition of divergence d(i_{X}dV) = (div X)dV where X:M\rightarrow TM is a vector field, dV is a volume element and i_X is a contraction operator e.g. i_{X}T = X^{k}T^{i_{1}...i_{r}}_{kj_{2}...j_{s}}, prove that if we use Levi-Civita connection then the...
  19. D

    Commutation property of covariant derivative

    My book defines the covariant derivative of a tangent vector field as the directional derivative of each component, and then we subtract out the normal component to the surface. I am a little confused about proving some properties. One of them states: If x(u, v) is an orthogonal patch, x_u...
  20. L

    Covariant deriv of matrix valued field(srednicki)

    Hi In ch84, Srednicki is considering the gauge group SU(N) with a real scalar field \Phi^a in the adjoint rep. He then says it will prove more convienient to work with the matrix valued field \Phi=\Phi^a T^a and says the covariant derivative of this is...
  21. jfy4

    Covariant derivative of coordinates

    Hi, I am familiar with the covariant derivative of the tangent vector to a path, \nabla_{\alpha}u^{\beta} and some interesting ways to use it. I am wondering about \nabla_{\alpha}x^{\beta}=\frac{\partial x^\beta}{\partial...
  22. E

    Contravariant vs Covariant components - misprint?

    In their article [Integrals in the theory of electron correlations, Annalen der Physik 7, 71] L.Onsager at el. write: By resolving the vector \vec{s} into its contravariant components in the oblique coordinate system formed by the vectors \vec{q} and \vec{Q} it is possible to reduce the region...
  23. H

    Covariant derivative of Lie-Bracket in normal orthonormal frame

    Hi there, I was doing some calculations with tensors and ran into a result which seems a bit odd to me. I hope someone can validate this or tell me where my mistake is. So I have a normal orthonormal frame field \{E_i\} in the neighbourhood of a point p in a Riemannian manifold (M,g), i.e...
  24. P

    Derivative of contravariant metric tensor with respect to covariant metric tensor

    Homework Statement Show that \frac{{\partial}g^c{^d}}{{\partial}g_a{_b}}=-\frac{1}{2}(g^a{^c}g^b{^d}+g^b{^c}g^a{^d}) Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution It seems like it should be simple, but I just do not see how to come up with the above solution. This is what I am coming...
  25. Phrak

    Is general relativity generally covariant?

    Is general relativity REALLY generally covariant?
  26. M

    Must a contravariant contract with a covariant, & vice versa?

    Why is it that a contravariant tensor must be contracted with a covariant tensor, and vice versa? Why is this so?
  27. L

    Covariant derivative from connections

    On a 2 dimensional Riemannian manifold how does one derive the covariant derivative from the connection 1 form on the tangent unit circle bundle?
  28. K

    Questions on connections and covariant differentiation

    The question is in the pdf file,thank you!:smile: M is a Riemannian manifold, $\vdash$ is a global connection on M compatible with the Riemannian metric.In terms of local coordinates $u^1,...,u^n$ defined on a coordinate neighborhood $U \subset M$, the connection $\vdash$ is...
  29. T

    Covariant Derivative: Different for Vectors, Spinors & Matrices?

    The covariant derivative is different in form for different tensors, depending on their rank. What about other mathematical entities? The electromagnetic field A is a vector, but it has complex values. Is the covariant derivative different for complex valued vectors? And what about...
  30. R

    Covariant vector differentiation problem with kronecker delta?

    I'm having trouble understanding the proof/solution below (please see photo, I also wrote out the problem below). I highlighted the part of my problem in red (in the picture attached). Basically I'm not sure what identity they use to get the Kronecker delta after differentiating or whether they...
  31. tom.stoer

    Thiemann on the relation between canonical and covariant loop quantum gravity

    http://arxiv.org/abs/1109.1290 [B]Linking covariant and canonical LQG: new solutions to the Euclidean Scalar Constraint[/B Authors: Emanuele Alesci, Thomas Thiemann, Antonia Zipfel (Submitted on 6 Sep 2011) Abstract: It is often emphasized that spin-foam models could realize a projection on...
  32. tom.stoer

    Covariant global constants of motion in GR?

    We know that in GR it is not possible for arbitrary spacetimes to define a conserved energy by using a 3-integral. There are some obstacles like the covariant conservation law DT = 0 (D = covariant derivative; T = energy-momentum-tensor) does not allow for the usual dV integration (like dj...
  33. S

    What are relation between unique describe of world and covariant law?

    If we consider have an unique external world therefor all people who want to describe this, should portray one thing. it seems logically that all people with different situation, either they are stationary or they move with constant speed or variable speed, describe world uniquely. this...
  34. L

    Covariant and Contravariant Kronecker Delta operating on Tensor

    I am aware that the following operation: mathbf{M}_{ij} \delta_{ij} produces mathbf{M}_{ii} or mathbf{M}_jj However, if we have the following operation: mathbf{M}_{ij} \delta^i{}_j will the tensor M be transformed at all? Thank you for your time.
  35. M

    Proving covariant component is physical component times scaling factor

    Homework Statement The problem is from Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences, 3rd Ed. Ch10, Sec. 10, Q4. My question is a bit subtle as I have actually figured out the problem, just that I don't understand my solution. The problem reads: 4) What are the physical components...
  36. S

    Covariant derivative of stress-energy tensor

    hi, I understand that Tab,b=0 because the change in density equals the negative divergence, but why do the christoffel symbols vanish for Tab;b=0?
  37. S

    Covariant derivative of riemann tensor

    what would Rabcd;e look like in terms of it's christoffels? or Rab;c
  38. R

    Covariant Derivative: Understanding $\partial_i e_j=\Gamma^{k}_{ij} e_k$

    How can the derivative of a basis vector at a point be the linear combination of tangent vectors at that point? For example, if you take a sphere, then the derivative of the polar basis vector with respect to the polar coordinate is in the radial direction. How can something in the radial...
  39. S

    How we can check maxwell equations are covariant?

    every people know that covariance principle is important in physics. before Lorentz transformations and special relativity, how we can check covariance principle about Maxwell 's equations?
  40. omega_minus

    When is something covariant or contravariant?

    I'm pretty comfortable with special relativity, and at least familiar with the principles of the general theory, but recently I've tried to learn SR using tensors. It is my first foray into this branch of mathematics. I understand they're handy because they represent invariant objects, but the...
  41. L

    Covariant derivative vs Gauge Covariant derivative

    As you may guess from the title this question is about the covariant derivatives, more precisely about the difference between the usual covariant derivative, the one used in General Relativity defined by:\nabla_{e_{\mu}}=\left(\frac{\partial v^{\beta}} {\partial...
  42. L

    Covariant Derivative and Gauge Covariant Derivative

    As you may guess from the title this question is about the covariant derivatives, more precisely about the difference between the usual covariant derivative, the one used in General Relativity defined by:\nabla_{e_{\mu}}=\left(\frac{\partial v^{\beta}} {\partial...
  43. B

    Covariant and Contravariant Tensors

    Hey everyone, I am reading a Schaum's Outline on Tensor Calculus and came to something I can't seem to understand. I'm admittedly young to be reading this but so far I've understood everything except this. My question is: what is the difference between a contravariant tensor and a covariant...
  44. S

    Covariant VS manifestly covariant

    What is the difference between covariant and manifestly covariant? And is this correct? The equation for covariant differention: \nabla_\lambda T^\mu=\frac{\partial{T^\mu}}{\partial{x^{\lambda}}}+{\sum}_{\rho}{\Gamma}^{\mu}_{\rho \lambda}T^{\rho} And equation is manifestly coverint if I...
  45. K

    Understand "Manifestly Covariant" in Relativity Notes

    In my relativity notes, I have several remarks like the following one: "The Lorentz condition on the potentials can be written in manifestly covariant form in this way: \partial_i A^i = 0 , where the A^i are the components of the 4-potential." This made me realize I probably have not...
  46. Rasalhague

    Garrity's Formula: Ordering Covariant Alternating Tensors

    I have a question about Garrity's formula at the top of p. 125, here, for a function from the set of 2-form fields to the set of tangent vector fields, together with the formula on p. 123 for the exterior derivative of a 1-form field and Theorem 6.3.1 on p. 125 (Garrity: All the Mathematics you...
  47. jfy4

    Covariant Uncertaintly Principle

    Covariant Uncertainty Principle Hi, is it possible to write the uncertainty principle as a dot product like: \eta^{\alpha\beta}\Delta x_{\alpha}\Delta p_{\beta}\geq\hbar or even to generalize it as g^{\alpha\beta}\Delta x_{\alpha}\Delta p_{\beta}\geq\hbar ?
  48. 7

    Basis + covariant derivative question

    My apologies about lack of precision in nomenclature. So I wanted to know how to express a certain idea about choice of basis on a manifold... Let's suppose I am solving a reaction-diffusion equation with finite elements. If I consider a surface that is constrained to lie in a flat plane or...
  49. L

    Converting between Covariant and Contravariant matrices

    Homework Statement Given a matrix {latex] A_11 =A_22 = 0 A_12 =A_21 = x/y +y/x [ /latex] Find the contravariant components in polar coordinates. Answer: [itex] A_11 = 2 A_22 = -2/r^2 A_12 = 2cot(2 /theta)/r [ /latex] Homework Equations I used the polar coordinates metric to raise...
  50. Phrak

    Do Total Current and Total Charge form a Lorentz Covariant Vector.

    And if so, How? From the post 15 and 16 of the thread https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=474719" But total charge and total current, Q and I, do form a 4-vector, don't they? There seem to be two ways to solve this, but I can't figure out which one is right. Properly...
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