Log Definition and 632 Threads

  1. QuarkCharmer

    Log equation with two raised variables

    Homework Statement This is not a specific problem that I must complete, but I realized that I forgot how to solve these style problems! Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution For instance, off the top of my head: 3e^{x+1}=e^{x+2} I would divide both sides through by 5 to get...
  2. J

    Solve the equation log (little 3) X + log (little6) X = 2

    Solve the equation log (little 3) X + log (little6) X = 2 the answer is 3.9 Here is what I try log (little 6)x = log (little 3)x/log (little 3)6 = log (little 3) (x-6)log (little 3)x + log (little 3) (x-6) = 2 log (little3) (x(x-6)) =2 log (little3) (x^2-6x)=3^2 x^2 -6x =9 x^2-6x-9=0 x= 7.2...
  3. D

    Difficult partial derivative of a log

    Hello! I am trying to solve the partial derivative 'P' http://www.flickr.com/photos/61865210@N07/5757168138/ , which is part of a larger equation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/61865210@N07/5757300018/ (Sorry, can't seem to display to pictures, using insert image) Someone told me that solving...
  4. Saitama

    Identities for solving log questions

    I was wondering if there could be more identities than i have read. I was doing questions on log and found many questions in this form:- (loga b)2 (loga b)(loga c) This is not my homework but i require these identities to solve the questions. Please someone tell me how to solve these...
  5. Hepth

    Mathematica Mathematica : Log Handling/Simplification

    I'm having a simple problem with simplifying of logs. Given the input : FullSimplify[8 Log[m1] - 8 Log[m2] + 4, m1 > 0 && m2 > 0] FullSimplify[8 Log[m1] - 8 Log[m2], m1 > 0 && m2 > 0] I get out: 8 log(m1)-8 log(m2)+4 8 log(m1/m2) So for the second command it combines the logs...
  6. E

    Solving Exponential Equations: 2 Problems with Multiple Solutions

    Homework Statement it wants the sum of all solutions 2 different problems 1. and 2. 1. 2^x + 2^(x+1) + 2^(x+2) = 2^6. 2. 8/(3^x +2)>=3^x >= meaning equal or greater than 3^x Homework Equations should i come up with a summa equation? The Attempt at a Solution i...
  7. E

    Solving Logarithmic Equation with Real Numbers: Log Problem Homework

    Homework Statement 9^x-5*3^X+6=0 Homework Equations I have no idea how to solve this i suspect there is a theory that I am not familiar with involved. want real numbers. The Attempt at a Solution i thought about moving the 6 to the otherside and doing log on both but you can't...
  8. P

    Trouble with Log Laws and exponential functions

    Please help i have these two questions and i am Stuck! Question 1 The linear equation you have found (y=.771x+1.609) is in the form of y= mx +c. it should be however more appropreiatly be considered as being in the form, lny = mx + lnA. by using appropriat logarithmic and exponential laws...
  9. S

    Log Fume Acceleration, Velocity, and change in mass

    Currently working on a high school physics assignment. I need help on some questions, just so that I know I am in the right direction. I am not here to get you guys to do my homework for me. But anyway, the following questions are about a log fume ride, and the acceleration and velocity of a...
  10. Y

    Solve Log Problem: Integral of (1/x) from -b to -a with Formula ln(x)

    \int_{-b}^{-a} \frac{dx}{x} = ln(x)|_{-b}^{-a} What is this equal to? I don't know how to proceed. Please help. Thank Alan
  11. C

    Integration results in natural log of a natural log

    SORRY FOR THE LACK OF FORMATTING, I SPENT 30 MINUTES TRYING TO FORMAT AND IT KEPT GETTING MESSED UP. Homework Statement Evaluate by substitution. Integral of dx/xln(x^2) Homework Equations integral of 1/u du = ln(u) + C The Attempt at a Solution u = ln(x^2) du = 2/x...
  12. S

    Derivative Problem involving Natural Log

    Homework Statement Evaluate the derivative of the following function: p(x) = (5x)-ln(5x) Homework Equations \frac{d}{dx}lnx = \frac{1}{x} Not sure what else... The Attempt at a Solution I know that I will have to use the chain rule in this problem, but actually...
  13. M

    Log amp cascaded to anti-log amp

    Hey everybody, I've been trying a bit of an experiment involving cascading an inverting logarithmic amp with an inverting exponential amplifier. Between them I put in an inverting buffer (see attached diagram). Now the thing is, when the inverting buffer has unity gain everything works as...
  14. K

    What is the area under the given equation using definite integration?

    Homework Statement Find the area under the given equation using definite integration. y = 4ln(3-x) from 0 to 2 The Attempt at a Solution Integration from 0 to 2 4 (integration from 0 to 2) (3-x) Let u = 3-x du = -dx -du = dx -4(integration from 0 to 2) du Idk where to go from there :/...
  15. W

    Looking for descriptive material about log inequalities.

    So, I have this book that doesn't explain why you have to first find the domain, consolidate logs, solve the function as a rational inequality, find the key numbers, then find which numbers of the key numbers are actually in the domain according to the inequality, and finally write out the...
  16. M

    Reverce log, Anti-log, or unlog whitch is correct?

    Title pretty much says it, is there an offical opinion that can be quoted somewhere to win a bet? I like unlog or Reverse log but Anti-log just sounds goofy.
  17. V

    Error analysis in log space: How to handle exponents in regression analysis?

    Homework Statement Maybe, I am a little stupid, but I just can't understand what I am doing wrong here. I have 2 quantities which I have to convert to log (base 10) and perform a regression analysis. Quantity=1.235e9 error=3.4475e8 Homework Equations I have to express the above...
  18. J

    Which Graph Paper to Use for Power Relationships: Semi-Log vs Log-Log?

    After collecting data from an experiment and realizing that there is a power relationship, how do u know if u need to use semi log graph paper or log-log paper to graph your data?
  19. N

    Comparing log(i^2) and 2*log(i)

    Homework Statement Show log(i^2) and 2*log(i) have different sets of values. Homework Equations log z=ln|z|+i*arg z The Attempt at a Solution log(i^2) = ln|i^2| + i*arg(i^2) = ln|-1| + i*(pi + 2*n*pi) = 0 + i*pi*(1 + 2*n) =...
  20. T

    How to Solve Logarithmic Equations Using Change of Base Formula?

    1) logba + logcb + logac = 1/logab + 1/logbc + 1/logca 2) logrp = q and logqr = p, show logqp = pq 3) if u = log9x, find in terms of u, logx81 4) log5x = 16logx5, solve for x attempt I know the change of base formula logax = logbx/logba, but I'm not sure if/how to apply it in any...
  21. N

    Exploring the Complex Logarithm Function for Different Branches

    Homework Statement Show that (a) log(i^2) = 2*log(i) when log z=ln r + i * theta (r>0 and pi/4 < theta < 9*pi/4) (b) log(i^2) <> 2*log(i) when log z=ln r + i * theta (r>0 and 3*pi/4 < theta < 11*pi/4) Homework Equations log z = ln r + i * theta The Attempt at a Solution Got...
  22. E

    Natural Log in Thermodynamic Equations related to Entropy.

    Well I've been doing fairly complex thermodynamics in classical mechanics lectures with a bit of medium to advanced class, first of all , it took me a very long time to wrap my head around the concept of Entropy, however I still don't understand why we use ln (Natural Log) to calculate the...
  23. I

    This should be easy Units of log graph?

    I have a question that sounds easy but as of yet no one has been able to give me a satisfactory explanation. I made a plot of mobility (cm^2/Vs) against temperature (K), i then wanted to find an expression that showed the relationship between the two. What i did was took the natural logarithm of...
  24. H

    Another another more challenging log question.

    another another more challenging log question. :( Homework Statement log6(5y − 5) = 4x^2 + 7 Homework Equations - The Attempt at a Solution 6( x^2 + 6x+5 ) +1
  25. T

    Derivative of Log Function: Is My Solution Correct?

    Homework Statement y=ln (-2+√x)/(x^4) Hi there. Just need some reassurance that I found the derivative of this equation correctly. Also, if you can give me feedback on typing my equations that would also be wonderful. (Whether or not there are easier/better ways of typing the equations.)...
  26. A

    Solve a = b^(logx), for x: Steps & Explanation

    I can't seem to remember how you solve a = b^(logx), for x. What are the steps for simplifying this again?
  27. M

    Log Question - Relationship between two points on log function

    Hi Physics Forums, I understand that I usually need to show that I've attempted a question in order to get feedback, but I have absolutely no idea how to approach this one Calculus Log question. Base = 10 log (2) = 0.301103, log (3) = 0.47715 a.) Find log base 6 (5) b.) Estimate...
  28. K

    Integration of natural log problem

    Homework Statement what is the integral of ln(e2x-1) dx 2. The attempt at a solution I got u= ln(e2x-1) du = 2e2x-1 \ e2x-1 du = 2 dx 1/2(integral of u du) 1/2 ln (e2x-1 ) +c = 1/4 [ln (e2x-1 )]2 + c Could you please let me know if this is correct? I don't know how to integrate ln...
  29. M

    Solve Natural Log Equation: ln(x+1)-ln(x)=0

    Homework Statement Given the Equation ln(x+1)-ln(x)=0 find x (If it exists. Homework Equations The Attempt at a Solution ln(x+1)-ln(x)=0 ln(x+1)=ln(x) x+1 = x 1 = x-x Solution does not exist. (My book "agrees" with me in the solutions.) However, typing up the...
  30. Kawakaze

    Range of natural log, some trigonometry

    Homework Statement (1) Real variables x and y are related by the equation 3ln(y +4) = 2ln(x +2) − 2ln(x +9)+3ln(x^2 − 1). Determine the range of values of x and y for which the expressions on each side of this equation are defined. Find y explicitly as a function of x, that is...
  31. U

    How can Stirling's approximations be used to simplify a log equation?

    This is from a worked example involving using Stirlings approximations. I have the log equation, where c<<1: S=K(Nln(N)-cNln(cN)-N(1-c)ln(1-c)) In the next line of the example, this is simplified to S=-kNcln(c) I've tried a few ways of getting to this, but have had no...
  32. H

    Whats the point log mean temp difference(LMTD) any why use it?

    I have a solution to a problem but don't understand why to use LMTD vs the usual type of mean. I was working on a problem of trying to find the thermal resistance through a coaxial cable(hollow cylinder) and sort of knew the trick was that the area was not constant thus something had to be...
  33. Z

    Infinite series converging to natural log

    Prove that sum 1/2^(n+1)*n/(n+1), from n=0 to infinity, converges to 1 - log(2), where log stands for the natural logarithm. I know that the Taylor series for log(x) about x=1 is sum (-1)^(n+1)*(x-1)^n/n, but I don't see how these two statements are consistent. Thanks for any pointers!
  34. T

    Proving Log Relationship: x2 + y2 = 11xy and log [(x-y)/3] = 0.5(logx + logy)

    Given that x2 + y2 = 11xy Show that log [ (x-y)/3 ] = 0.5 (logx +logy) Similarly, Give that log [ (x-y)/3 ] = 0.5 (logx +logy) Show that x2 + y2 = 11xy I really liked the log unit and understood it, but I was stumped on this question. It was for a test and it keeps bothering me...
  35. T

    How do you solve log equations?

    Homework Statement Solve: a) b) 3log (x-15) = (1/4)x The Attempt at a Solution For a) http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n596/physics-/43_6051b53e5bf48508fa9854606102060a.png http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n596/physics-/46_ab0ccd938c1710d9cb5bbcd6193d4eac.png...
  36. T

    Why Do These Log Equations Have No Solutions?

    Homework Statement In the answers, it says these two don't have any solutions. I don't understand how, though. log(v-2) = 1 +log(v+2) and 2 + logx = log(x-9) The Attempt at a Solution For the first one, I did: log(v-2/v+2) = 1 v-2/v+2 = 10 v-2 = 10v + 20 0 = 9v + 22 So I didn't...
  37. T

    Calculating Population Growth Rate Using Log Equations

    Homework Statement Equation for population growth is: P(t) = P0(1 + R/100)t/t0 R --- growth rate in % t0--- time period Suppose a population grew from 10 000 to 25 000 in 6 years. If time is measured in years, calculate: a)Yearly growth rate Answer:16.5% b) Growth rate per decade...
  38. M

    Double Integral Plus Integration by Parts with Natural Log Problem

    Homework Statement My homework problem is the double integral of y/1+xy dxdy. It is a definite double integral and both integrands have the values of a = 0 and b = 1. Homework Equations Integration by parts: uv - int(vdu) The Attempt at a Solution My first step of the double integral is I...
  39. QuarkCharmer

    Log Explanations for Homework Statement - Inflation & Property Value

    Homework Statement During a 10 year period of constant inflation, the value of a $200,000 property will increase according to the equation v = 200,000e^(.06t). a.) What will be the value of the property in 4 years? b.) Use a table/graph to estimate when this property will double in value...
  40. T

    Solve LOG Problem: Evaluate Log 3 (Base 27) Without Calculator

    1. Evaluate WITHOUT using a calculator. 2. log base 27, 3, that is, log 3 with a base of 27 instead of 10 3. I'm stuck on how you end up with the solution, which is 1/3. Can someone provide a step by step walk through on how to solve this problem without a calculator?
  41. T

    Units into Log and Exponential Functions

    Hello, Something I've wondered about for some time is what happens to units once we pump them into a exponential or log function. For example in neutron attenuation I(x) = I_0 * exp(-Sigma * x) I feel like this something I should know, but I just don't get it. I suspect what's...
  42. T

    Jump Over Log with Least Effort: Analyzing Velocity vs Angle

    1.A lazy flea approaches a stationary log with radius R. At what distance from the log must the flea be to jump over the log with the least amount of effort. Hint: Plot Velocity versus the angle. 2.(Not sure how I should type these) I plan to use constant acceleration projectile motion...
  43. A

    What am i doing wrong? Log differentiation

    Homework Statement Use logarithmic differentiation to find the derivative of the function. y=xln(x) also, if anyone could help me with this... i have (for a diff problem) 1/(x2-1)1/2 * 1/2(x2-1)-1/2*2x i know that is right, but i don't know how to get from that, to x/(x2-1) i keep...
  44. A

    How to Use Logarithmic Differentiation in Calculus

    Homework Statement Hi again Practicing log differentiation now :P Sorry for all the questions, i have a midterm on thursday and i need to get this stuff by then 1. ex2ln(2x+1) 2.ln(2x/(2x+1)) 3. (3x-2)x (use logarithmic differentiation even though unnecessary The Attempt at a Solution 1...
  45. A

    Am i right? solving log functions

    Am i right? :) solving log functions! Homework Statement solve the following equations 1. e4x=25 2. ln(x2-8x+13)=0 The Attempt at a Solution 1. lne4x=ln25 => 4x=ln25 => x=(1/4)ln25 x=0.8047 2. ln(x2-8x+13)=0 => e0=x2-8x+13 => 1= x2-8x+13 => x2-8x+12=0 (x-6)(x-2)...
  46. E

    Common log question (are you done?)

    the rule states, log x => log 10^x the problem said to evaluate / solve and show work. so: log 1000 = log 10 ^ 1000. I'm I done at that point or do I have to go on and solve it? log 10^1000 = x 10 ^ x = 1000 x = 3 which one goes? do I leave it as log 10 ^ 100 or because the problem...
  47. P

    What is the connection between Arctanh x and the logarithmic function?

    I can not seem to figure out why Arctanh x [ Hyperbolic Arctan ] can be expressed as Arctanh x = (1/2) [ Log (1+x) - Log (1-x) ] Note; I know the 1/2 means the expression is a square root of the ratio of the 2 binomials and has been taken out with the Power Rule Can anyone show me the...
  48. S

    Power series expansion for Log z

    Homework Statement Find the power series expansion of Log z about the point z = i-2. Show that the radius of convergence of the series is R = \sqrt{5}. Homework Equations None The Attempt at a Solution I know that Log z = (z-1) - (1/2)(z-1)^2 + (1/3)(z-1)^3 -... So wouldn't this...
  49. S

    Big Oh: showing that a polynomial grows faster than any log function.

    Big Oh: showing that a polynomial "grows faster" than any log function. Homework Statement is n^0.01 big oh of (log(n))^10 ? ***Bear in mind, the log is a binary log. Homework Equations the formal statement would be... does n^0.01 < c(log(n))^10 hold for all n greater than a...
  50. B

    Help with natural log in this equation

    So I am not quite sure how to solve for x here. 1.2E-21=(.3567)(ln(x/.175))
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