Collision between snooker balls

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In an elastic collision involving three identical snooker balls, where two are at rest and one strikes them with an initial velocity v_0, the conservation of momentum and energy principles apply. The resulting velocities of the balls can be determined by analyzing both the x and y components of momentum, as energy conservation is scalar while momentum is vectorial. A recommended approach is to visualize the collision by drawing a diagram of the velocities post-collision, breaking them into their respective components. A simulation tool like the PHET collision lab can also aid in understanding the dynamics of the collision. The discussion emphasizes the importance of considering both momentum and energy conservation to solve for the final velocities.
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Homework Statement
Two identical frictionless balls are symmetrically hit by a third identical ball with velocity v_0i. Find all subsequent velocities.
Relevant Equations
Conservation of mass and conservation of momentum.
Two snooker balls are at rest and a third collides with the two of them. There is no friction and all balls are identical. The initial velocity of the ball (1) is ##v = v_0 i##. I can understand the direction that the balls go in after the collision. But I want to know the resulting velocities of all the balls in play. The collision is elastic.

Here is my attempt
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hmparticle9 said:
Homework Statement: Two identical frictionless balls are symmetrically hit by a third identical ball with velocity v_0i. Find all subsequent velocities.
Relevant Equations: Conservation of mass and conservation of momentum.

Two snooker balls are at rest and a third collides with the two of them. There is no friction and all balls are identical. The initial velocity of the ball (1) is ##v = v_0 i##. I can understand the direction that the balls go in after the collision. But I want to know the resulting velocities of all the balls in play. The collision is elastic.

Here is my attempt
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Energy is not a vector. It only can be taken to be conserved overall, not separately per direction.
 
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A fun simulation to try out is the PHET collision lab - you can define coefficient of restitution, give initial velocities, and set up collisions - choose the 2D model:

https://phet.colorado.edu/sims/html/collision-lab/latest/collision-lab_all.html

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For your equations, energy is a scalar quantity, but momentum is a vector. Can you draw a picture of the x and y components for your mv's?

You should have
Σmvx = ...
Σmvy = ... (no initial vy, after collision one flies up and the other down)

Draw picture of velocities after the collision, break everything into Vx and Vy
 

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Got it! Thanks :D

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Kindly see the attached pdf. My attempt to solve it, is in it. I'm wondering if my solution is right. My idea is this: At any point of time, the ball may be assumed to be at an incline which is at an angle of θ(kindly see both the pics in the pdf file). The value of θ will continuously change and so will the value of friction. I'm not able to figure out, why my solution is wrong, if it is wrong .
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