Compressed air explosing or fire

In summary, the conversation is about the potential dangers of a car with a compressed air tank being rear-ended and catching on fire. The main question is whether the compressed air would cause an explosion or make the fire larger. There are two possibilities: if the tank remains intact, the air would escape through the rupture, and if the tank is compromised, the air would escape along with fragments of metal, resulting in an "explosion." The question also touches on the flammability of compressed air, with some confusion over whether it is mostly oxygen or nitrogen. The general consensus is that the presence of compressed air would increase the fire, but the degree to which it would do so is uncertain.
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ramz28
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Please every1 put your 2 cents in. I joined this forum as a few of my buddys are arguing about compressed air. here is the situation.
We have a car with a air compressor (not an oxygen tank) in the trunk the car is rear ended and catches on fire, during the accident the tank was broken open. what would happen?
Would the compressed air explode?
would it add to the fire and make it larger?
or would nothing happen?
Thank you please help
 
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So you're asking if the air would create a fireball, not whether the tank would explode.
 
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Two possibilities; the tank is punctured but holds its structural integrity for the most part, in which case the air rushes out through the rupture. Otherwise, the rupture could comprimise the structural integrity of the tank, like perhaps causing a crack or rip in the metal that continues along its entire length. In that case, the air would escape in a small fraction of a second, accompanied by fragments of metal, which could easily fit most people's definition of an "explossion."
 
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LURCH said:
Two possibilities; the tank is punctured but holds its structural integrity for the most part, in which case the air rushes out through the rupture. Otherwise, the rupture could comprimise the structural integrity of the tank, like perhaps causing a crack or rip in the metal that continues along its entire length. In that case, the air would escape in a small fraction of a second, accompanied by fragments of metal, which could easily fit most people's definition of an "explossion."
See, this is what I thought he was asking at first too. But I think he's actually asking how the compressed air would act in the presence of fire. Would the compressed air basically make a fireball, I think is what he wants to know.
 
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yes sorry for the bad wording just not sure how else to put it. would the escaping air from the tank cause the fire to "fireball" or become larger? would that air feed the fire? or would it be to much air? A fire marshal told me that it would be a huge explosion because compressed air is oxygen and extremely flammable. I wasnt aware that compressed air is oxygen? i thought it 2 different things. I know compressed air contains oxygen but isn't air moslty nitrogen? thanks!
 
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ramz28 said:
yes sorry for the bad wording just not sure how else to put it. would the escaping air from the tank cause the fire to "fireball" or become larger? would that air feed the fire? or would it be to much air? A fire marshal told me that it would be a huge explosion because compressed air is oxygen and extremely flammable. I wasnt aware that compressed air is oxygen? i thought it 2 different things. I know compressed air contains oxygen but isn't air moslty nitrogen? thanks!
If you blow on a dying firepit, the embers will glow and eventually re-ignite.

Part of the thing that keeps a fire in check is the inavailablity of oxygen. Giving a fire an unlimitged supply of oxygen (even if you also give it an unlimited supply of nitrogen), will definitely increase it. I'm just not sure how much.
 

FAQ: Compressed air explosing or fire

1. What causes a compressed air explosion or fire?

A compressed air explosion or fire occurs when the compressed air in a container or system is ignited by a spark or heat source. This can happen due to a variety of reasons, such as improper handling or storage of compressed air, equipment malfunction, or use of flammable substances in the vicinity.

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To prevent compressed air explosions or fires, it is important to follow safety guidelines and regulations for handling and storing compressed air. This includes regularly inspecting and maintaining equipment, avoiding use of flammable substances near compressed air systems, and training employees on proper handling procedures.

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5. Are there any regulations or standards for handling compressed air to prevent explosions or fires?

Yes, there are regulations and standards set by organizations such as OSHA and the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) for the safe handling and storage of compressed air. It is important to follow these guidelines to ensure the safety of employees and prevent accidents.

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