Could Black Holes Be Collapsed Dimensions Rather Than Massive Gravity Events?

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The discussion explores the idea that black holes may result from collapsed dimensions rather than massive gravity events. It suggests that the event horizon could be shredding three-dimensional objects, contributing to the universe's expansion and the formation of galaxies. The potential correlation between the spiral structure of galaxies and black hole dynamics is also considered, likening it to the growth rings of a conch shell. However, participants challenge these ideas, emphasizing the lack of scientific backing and suggesting that black holes are better understood as collapsed mass. The conversation highlights the need for more evidence and clarity in understanding black hole mechanics.
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Greetings all,

Is it possible that black holes are the result of collapsed dimension as opposed to huge mass/gravity events? Perhaps, the event horizon is shredding 3d objects and creating new space expanding the universe and forming the stuff of the galaxy around them. Could the curve of a spiral galaxy show that expansion in the outward growth of each arm of the spiral. Additionally, could the spin and mass of the black hole be determined by unwinding the growth of a spire like the growth rings of a conch shell.

like 270 degrees of rotation over 10 billion years, approximate length of spire, and some estimate of mass in a set of concentric circles in 1 billion year increments from outer edge of the black hole.

Just a starting point, but if the sample size were large enough more specific data could be gleaned.

I could see a constant for spin, no dimension for light to cross, and a loss of acceleration and mass that comes from depth of travel to the core of a black hole.

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Hi edsousaphone, welcome to PF!

None of your post has any scientific backing, sorry.
edsousaphone said:
Is it possible that black holes are the result of collapsed dimension as opposed to huge mass/gravity events? Perhaps, the event horizon is shredding 3d objects and creating new space expanding the universe and forming the stuff of the galaxy around them.
What evidence is there for any aspect of that? Wouldn't it be better for black holes to just be collapsed mass? ---It would certainly make General Relativity classes easier.

edsousaphone said:
Could the curve of a spiral galaxy show that expansion in the outward growth of each arm of the spiral. Additionally, could the spin and mass of the black hole be determined by unwinding the growth of a spire like the growth rings of a conch shell.
No. The spirals are formed (and evolve) by hydrodynamic effects.

edsousaphone said:
I could see a constant for spin, no dimension for light to cross, and a loss of acceleration and mass that comes from depth of travel to the core of a black hole.
What?
 
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