Cover songs versus the original track, which ones are better?

[Vanadium 50]

those tuba players are doing to the original song what the rednecks did to Ned Beatty in the film?

<sigh>

A "piggy" is a style of tuba. The intent is that it sounds like a big tuba, but takes up less space: tubas are not piccolos, and sometimes available space (e.g. in an orchestra pit) is at a premium.

 

[Vanadium 50]

Oh, and if we are talking about covers of Jump.

 

[pinball1970]

Oh, and if we are talking about covers of Jump.

Technically this is a mash up not a cover. @Hornbein likes these.

 

[pinball1970]

A "piggy" is a style of tuba. The intent is that it sounds like a big tuba, but takes up less space: tubas are not piccolos, and sometimes available space (e.g. in an orchestra pit) is at a premium.

Given the film and given your sense of humour, I think this link is a win.

 

[Vanadium 50]

Technically this is a mash up

I disagree. Different musicians playing a different arrangement of the same song is a cover. Granted, there are differences in styles. But one could say that about Aretha Franklin's Respect (yes, that's a cover), Ike and Tina Turner's Proud Mary, or Cowboy Junkies Sweet Jane.

If you want an example where things are more ambiguous, there is Carole King.James Taylor's You've Got A Friend. Recorded by the same musicians at the same session (and possibly even the same take), released a week apart with two different vocal tracks. Who covered whom? Or who mashednup whom?

 

[pinball1970]

disagree. Different musicians playing a different arrangement of the same song is a cover

No. They stick two tracks together, C'mon everybody and Jump.

 

[pinball1970]

If you want an example where things are more ambiguous, there is Carole King.James Taylor's You've Got A Friend

There will be greyer areas.

What is a cover? A cover is a version where the original song is recorded, released and then copied at a later date.The original song may or may not be recorded by the artist who wrote it, all points of discussion.

A mash up is splicing different songs together.

 

[Vanadium 50]

So I would argue that Big Daddy's Jump is a cover. They took the sheet music, made an arrangement in another style, and then recorded it. Seems pretty cut and dried.

There is also a difference between a "quote" and a :mash up". For decades, probably centuries, composers have used a bar or two of one piece in another. As in the 1812 Overture.

As far as You've Got A Friend, the case can be made that either recording was the "original".

 

[pinball1970]

So I would argue that Big Daddy's Jump is a cover. They took the sheet music, made an arrangement in another style, and then recorded it. Seems pretty cut and dried.

There is also a difference between a "quote" and a :mash up". For decades, probably centuries, composers have used a bar or two of one piece in another. As in the 1812 Overture.

As far as You've Got A Friend, the case can be made that either recording was the "original".

No. Covering a song and amalgamation of two songs or more is different.

Perhaps you want to put things into sets? The song, the cover of the song and amalgamations of the songs. Where is @fresh_42 when you need him?

Sounds like a thread?

 

[pinball1970]

There is also a difference between a "quote" and a :mash up". For decades, probably centuries, composers have used a bar or two of one piece in another. As in the 1812 Overture.

Wow. I REALLY think you know what this thread is supposed to be about.
Can I suggest you just don't do that? You did the same with the Tolkien thread

It doesn't matter, music will not change. Perhaps posters will give a few insights.
Interaction with smart posters.

 

[jack action]

Call it whatever you want it, Big Daddy's Jump is not only worse than Van Halen's Jump, it's not good at all.

 

[jack action]

Found nice little gems, both original and cover:

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[Vanadium 50]

Can I suggest you just don't do that?

"It's my thread. I decide who can participate and what they are allowed to say. Go away." Got it.

 

[pinball1970]

"It's my thread. I decide who can participate and what they are allowed to say. Go away." Got it.

Post what you want and it will not be interrupted by my unnecessary pedantry.

Mongolian throat singing cover of YMCA or Slayers raining blood, the Las Vegas years, will all be welcome.

 

[pinball1970]

One of the best songs from what I thought was a horrible period in pop music.

Russians.

It's in Cm so sting is hitting tenor As and Bb (A4)




Then he sang it in Russia and dropped a tone.



Then he dropped a few more to F#m, still powerful and the cello suits it.

 

[pinball1970]

A Russian covering "Full house" by Kate Bush.

 

[robphy]

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Nirvana Sota and her younger sister Aixa Sota have already performed at live shows and can cover famous hits like 'Enter Sandman' by Metallica or 'Creep' by Radiohead.​

Nirvana plays the guitar and Aixa the drums while dad Jussef Sota ,43, and mum Ilusión Sota, 42, play bass and piano respectively.​

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Nirvana y Aixa tocan Tom Sawyer de RUSH


Nirvana toca Ballerina 12/24 de STEVE VAI @SteveVaiHimself

 

[robphy]

(Related references in this thread:
#936 Nirvana y Aixa and #679 Killing in the Name covers )

Just released:

Nirvana y Aixa tocan K***ing In the name of de RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE

 

[strangerep]

I just noticed this cover of Gollum's Song (from The Two Towers) by Alina Gingertail.



Questions: what is the 1st instrument that appears? It seems to be played with a bow and levers.

Also, what is the small compact wind instrument that appears later?

 

[Arjan82]

A mash up is splicing different songs together.

(another) case in point:

 

[Arjan82]

aaaannddd another...

 

[Hornbein]

(another) case in point:

Pomplamoose is Portuguese for grapefruit.

 

[Hornbein]

 

[pinball1970]

Ocarina?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocarina

It also used here.



The non-standard sounds makes me wonder how the vocal score is written down.

This version is pure magic.

The vocals can be notated with not much problem I would have thought. They are still notes with a time associated. I think the only difference would be the vowels and whatever they put in brackets "spoken" or "shouted" even, ff!

The Ocarina line tails off at end of of a few of the phrases, can be denoted with a glissando.

I listened to the guitar part and it is much more treble in the original.

 

[Hornbein]

Dead Flowers
- Dubh Lee

 

[pinball1970]

(another) case in point:

These are clever but not my thing. I think Ozzy Crazy train and Earth Wind and fire scarred me!

 

[Hornbein]

 

[Hornbein]

 

[pinball1970]

This guy is a fantastic pianist and puts out great little pieces, however he has a new baby to deal with.
This video is different to his usual stuff.

My favourite part is 0.52 in, the harmonies after "breaking young girls hearts.

Anyway

 

[pinball1970]

That was great!

 

[pinball1970]

Another from F&F

 

[pinball1970]

Dead Flowers
- Dubh Lee

I like her!

 

[robphy]

Videos of covers of Paul Gilbert's ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Gilbert ) work
with Amusing / Possibly distracting features
... followed by Paul Gilbert's 2023 announcement of his covers of songs by Ronnie James Dio.

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This cover is marred by a very unenthusiastic keyboard player...
Polina Sedova - Fuzz Universe (Paul Gilbert cover)

- Paul Gilbert - Fuzz Universe (live: Colgone 2010)

This cover features an enthusiastic background dancer
Viking Kong - Paul Gilbert | Cesario Filho

- Paul Gilbert - Viking Kong (led off with his motivation for the song)

This cover features a 14 year old with amusing facial expressions.
Racer X — Scarified (Max Ostro cover 2018!)

- Paul Gilbert - Scarified

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Paul Gilbert - Announcing The Dio Album! [2023]
( https://www.paulgilbert.com/ - YouTube playlist of the Dio Album )

 

[Hornbein]

 

[morrobay]

. A Thai band