Disclose criminal record BEFORE interview?

[JonnyG]

I've been working as a software developer since April. I'm considered self-employed and I am working on two contracts, both with two guys who are in senior positions at a very large tech company (I won't mention the company's name). We get along well and they're very happy with my work. Said company is going to be opening hiring soon and they are going to get me an interview for a position on their team.

I have a criminal record for cocaine trafficking. As far as I know, they don't know of my record - although if they had ever googled me, the news articles would have shown up. I know the usual advice for someone with a criminal record is to disclose the record once they receive an offer and a background check is requested. Given how I am getting the interview, I'm wondering if I should tell them beforehand of my record? I imagine that if I get an offer after the interview, then I tell them about the record, it would make them look foolish when they have to go tell their boss: "Hey we didn't know this before but so and so has a record".

I'm not sure if I'm overthinking this though, but that's my gut feeling. What would you do?

 

[Andrew Mason]

I would suggest that you be up front about it at the interview. Don't put it in your CV or initial application. It is not relevant until the interview.

Don't mention it at the outset of the interview but don't leave it until the very end of the interview - the first and last things are what will be remembered most from the whole interview. Try to turn it into something positive: a life experience which you won't be repeating and one which has given you valuable insight into making the right and wrong decisions, being accountable for and taking responsibility for your actions, handling difficult situations and turning something negative into a positive learning experience.

all the best!

AM

 

[Vanadium 50]

I'm, not sure how one would work it into the interview. "Hash table? Funny you should mention hash...."

I might look into professional interview coaches, Yes, they cost money, but this isn't a one-and-done situation - you'll need to deal with this for the rest of your professional career.

 

[DaveC426913]

I'm, not sure how one would work it into the interview. "Hash table? Funny you should mention hash...."

I doubt there's any good way to do it. As long as it gets done though.

Me, I would simply wait for a logical break as things are proceeding and then start with "Look, in the interest of full disclosure I need to share this with you..." and finish with "...it was a dark time, for which I take responsibility but I'm a better person for it now..." or some such.

 

[JonnyG]

I appreciate the replies. So just to be clear, if any of you were in their positions (the guys I am currently working with), you wouldn't feel slighted that I didn't tell you beforehand? I see them many times per week. I have ample opportunity to tell them.

 

[berkeman]

Why would it come up in normal conversation?

(Well, modulo V50's hash table comment)...

 

[JonnyG]

Why would it come up in normal conversation?

(Well, modulo V50's hash table comment)...

I'd hate for them to feel foolish for having vouched for me only for them to be blindsided during the interview. I'm not sure if I'm right that they would feel foolish though...

 

[berkeman]

When I've made such recommendations at my work, I base it on my work experience with the person.

 

[gmax137]

I'd hate for them to feel foolish for having vouched for me only for them to be blindsided during the interview. I'm not sure if I'm right that they would feel foolish though...

I think this is a legitimate concern on your part. Not knowing any details, I would recommend you go with your gut feeling.

 

[Vanadium 50]

you wouldn't feel slighted that I didn't tell you beforehand

Maybe. How do you propose to fix the past?

The longer you wait, the tougher it will be. You need to tell them, and it is not crazy to get professional advice for the best way to keep at least control over the narrative.

 

[JonnyG]

Maybe. How do you propose to fix the past?

The longer you wait, the tougher it will be. You need to tell them, and it is not crazy to get professional advice for the best way to keep at least control over the narrative.

Yeah that's not a bad idea. I think I'll do that.

 

[gleem]

The Society of Human Resource Management has on its website stated that over 75% of human resource managers do not in general see a problem with a criminal record citing good work ethic, and company loyalty among other factors. Unfortunately, I lost the URL to that site with that info. It is said that about one in three adults has some criminal record so your situation is not rare.

I might add states have different laws on how to use a background check in hiring which you might check out. Professional advice does seem advisable.

A final thought, some may have a bad rap on the web due to name coincidence or other unfortunate circumstances so it is not unreasonable to ask if they will do a background check whereupon you disclose your past.

 

[DaveC426913]

I'd hate for them to feel foolish for having vouched for me only for them to be blindsided during the interview. I'm not sure if I'm right that they would feel foolish though...

So get ahead of that.

Say "I hope you understand that I didn't share this bit of information with anyone until the appropriate time, and that this is the appropriate time."

 

[JonnyG]

I plan on speaking to them this Friday. I'll let you all know how it goes!

 

[JonnyG]

Just to update everyone, I spoke to them prior to the interview. I got the job

 

[PhDeezNutz]

Just to update everyone, I spoke to them prior to the interview. I got the job

Congratulations!

 

[pinball1970]

Just to update everyone, I spoke to them prior to the interview. I got the job

Great news well done.

 

[DeBangis21]

Just to update everyone, I spoke to them prior to the interview. I got the job

Congratulations! Truth always pay.

 

[Vanadium 50]

Truth always pay.

Oh, you have a lot to learn. "Does this dress make me look fat?"

 

[Haborix]

Oh, you have a lot to learn. "Does this dress make me look fat?"

To be fair, he didn't say what it paid...

 

[DeBangis21]

Oh, you have a lot to learn. "Does this dress make me look fat?"

Actually, I have got a lot to learn, as I am an undergrad, and less experiences.

Couldn't clearly decode your quote. Would you mind elaborating? And was my statement grammatically correct?

Worth to add that sometimes 'not telling the truth is prefered' in respect to reconciliation; perhaps telling it will effectuate conflict, chaos...

 

[pinball1970]

Actually, I have got a lot to learn, as I am an undergrad, and less experiences.

Couldn't clearly decode your quote. Would you mind elaborating? And was my statement grammatically correct?

Worth to add that sometimes 'not telling the truth is prefered' in respect to reconciliation; perhaps telling it will effectuate conflict, chaos...

My interpretation of that is, tell your girlfriend what she wants to hear not what the reality of the situation is.

 

[Vanadium 50]

not what the reality of the situation is.

"The dress? Don't blame the dress."

 

[pinball1970]

"The dress? Don't blame the dress."

I made the mistake of telling my gf at the time that, "Her arse DID look big in that dress."
It was her 30th so I should have thought it through. I think I was reading and not concentrating on the situation.
It was not meant in a bad way.

That was 24 years ago now but I still remember it, some details very clearly. A bit like where you were when Kennedy got shot.

 

[Vanadium 50]

The answer is "No."
If for some reason, you feel compelled to say more, it is "No, dear."

 

[ChemAir]

I made the mistake of telling my gf at the time that, "Her arse DID look big in that dress."
It was her 30th so I should have thought it through. I think I was reading and not concentrating on the situation.
It was not meant in a bad way.

That was 24 years ago now but I still remember it, some details very clearly. A bit like where you were when Kennedy got shot.

My wife's rear looks even better than it did when I was married (1992).

Just get her to ask me about it.

There is no correct answer in this case, just an opportunity for a redirect.

 

[pinball1970]

My wife's rear looks even better than it did when I was married (1992).

Just get her to ask me about it.

There is no correct answer in this case, just an opportunity for a redirect.

That's great. So in summary then...

Honesty is the best policy and everyone is pleased it worked out for the OP.

The best policy except when it comes to relationships.
Then honesty should avoided or redirected when the answer could lead to an unfavourable answer, another difficult question, an argument, tears or the end of the relationship.

 

[ChemAir]

I don't know. Honesty is best, but there are some rivers you shouldn't cross, or try to. Sometimes, you should let it pass.

I have some nice lawn equipment I use when the people with pitchforks come out (my wife). I can cut a lot of grass while she has her moment. If it takes a while, I can lower the deck and do it again.

 

[pinball1970]

I don't know. Honesty is best, but there are some rivers you shouldn't cross, or try to. Sometimes, you should let it pass.

I have some nice lawn equipment I use when the people with pitchforks come out (my wife). I can cut a lot of grass while she has her moment. If it takes a while, I can lower the deck and do it again.

I think that is another thread. Framed in an Evolutionary/ anthropology perspective. Let's keep it scientific.

 

[ChemAir]

I think that is another thread. Framed in an Evolutionary/ anthropology perspective. Let's keep it scientific.

Sounds good.