Do they have powerful battery packs that can run a vacuum?

[LightningInAJar]

TL;DR Summary

Big battery packs.

For those that have to vacuum large spaces often have to use many different outlets and worry about running over their own cord. Is there a battery pack one can strap to their back to power a vacuum cleaner? Or would that amount of power tide to a person be dangerous?

 

[phinds]

TL;DR Summary: Big battery packs.

For those that have to vacuum large spaces often have to use many different outlets and worry about running over their own cord. Is there a battery pack one can strap to their back to power a vacuum cleaner? Or would that amount of power tide to a person be dangerous?

Leaf blowers come in a version that has a gas motor that goes in a backpack. It is certainly conceivable that a vacuum cleaner could run the same way.

 

[Baluncore]

For those that have to vacuum large spaces often have to use many different outlets and worry about running over their own cord.

They sometimes have long power cords that follow behind them.

Central or ducted vacuum systems work well where the rooms are smaller, such as homes and hotels. They have no power cord, just the vacuum hose to plug into the wall inlet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_vacuum_cleaner

 

[hutchphd]

Dyson makes many cordless electric vacuum cleaners (probably rediculously overengineered) . I'm certain you could swap the battery out occasionally, so it wouldn't need to clean Madison Square Garden on a single charge. ?

 

[LightningInAJar]

Leaf blowers come in a version that has a gas motor that goes in a backpack. It is certainly conceivable that a vacuum cleaner could run the same way.

I don't think a gas motor could run indoors though.

 

[phinds]

I don't think a gas motor could run indoors though.

It can if it is a very large space. I wouldn't do it in a home but in sports stadium or airplane hanger it would be OK.

 

[Baluncore]

I don't think a gas motor could run indoors though.

That depends on what you mean by "gas".

There are many LPG fuelled vacuum cleaners and floor polishers, used in warehouses and shopping centres. For examples, Google 'propane vacuums'.
https://www.ruwac.com/product-type/propane-powered-vacuums/

 

[Baluncore]

There are also ICE driven, propane fuelled, ice machines used indoors.
https://zamboni.com/air-quality-and-emissions/

 

[Vanadium 50]

Is it an ice machine or an ICE machine?

 

[Baluncore]

Is it an ice machine or an ICE machine?

Both. It is an ice machine, AKA Zamboni.
I see, it is propelled across the ice, by an ICE.

 

[Vanadium 50]

And if Immigration and Customs Enforcement owns one, it's an ICE ice ICE machine? Ir is that an ICE ICE ice machine?

 

[Baluncore]

"ICE machine" does not sound right, it is a bit like a redundant "ATM machine".
They don't call this the "silly season" for nothing.
The full Moon is tomorrow.

 

[OCR]

. . . it is a bit like a redundant "ATM machine".

Lol. . . .

RAS syndrome

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[hutchphd]

Just call it the Zamboni........

 

[Baluncore]

Just call it the Zamboni........

Like, I have a six cylinder Zamboni in my car.

 

[hutchphd]

Must be good on the ice.

 

[LightningInAJar]

I was thinking domestic places and close quarters businesses. Also there is a noise consideration. Do they have large battery packs that can output enough for a shop vacuum? Lets say 2 hours tops of cleaning. If it doesn't exist about how heavy would it be? Perhaps it can be dolly-ed around like a golf bag if not worn

 

[berkeman]

I was thinking domestic places and close quarters businesses. Also there is a noise consideration. Do they have large battery packs that can output enough for a shop vacuum? Lets say 2 hours tops of cleaning. If it doesn't exist about how heavy would it be? Perhaps it can be dolly-ed around like a golf bag if not worn

You can calculate all of this yourself. Look at the vacuum that you want to power and read the specifications in the manual or on the information plate near the power input connector. That will give you the input power consumption (something like 120VAC @ 2A = 240 Watts), and that will let you do an approximate calculation for the size of the battery you need to power the vacuum for 2 hours (480 Watt-hours = 12V battery * 40 Amp-hours). You will need the battery to be a bit bigger to take power supply conversion efficiency into account, but this will give you the ballpark battery sizes that you should be looking at...

[corrected typo in math in battery capacity calculation]

 

[hutchphd]

Or you could consider the fact that one can buy an electric yard vac/ leaf blower at the local hardware store. It works with any Ryobi 40V battery, no cart required.

 

[LightningInAJar]

Or you could consider the fact that one can buy an electric yard vac/ leaf blower at the local hardware store. It works with any Ryobi 40V battery, no cart required.

I'm afraid that wouldn't work on carpets. Lol. As for a powerpack I am still concerned with safety and health with such a power supply if any. Would anyone here have any reservations about strapping that much power to your back? Lol.

 

[Baluncore]

Would anyone here have any reservations about strapping that much power to your back?

No problem.
Two-stroke engines on backpacks are used in harvesting fruit and spraying.
Backpack vacuum cleaners, with power cords, have been around for more than 50 years.
Now they are available with lithium batteries.
https://www.godfreys.com.au/pullman-advance-lithium-backpack-pl950

 

[hutchphd]

That seems pretty definitive to me........thanks.

 

[berkeman]

Would anyone here have any reservations about strapping that much power to your back? Lol.

The 12V, 40A-Hr battery size that I came up with in the simple calculation a few posts back is about the size of a car battery. It would fit easily in the seperate floor-based "following" unit in this style of floor vacuum:

https://www.thekitchn.com/things-to-know-before-buying-a-vacuum-23409075

 

[LightningInAJar]

I only ask because those afraid of cell phone radiation giving them a brain tumor would get any dangerous radiation from the battery more than the screen. And that's very low power compared to a vacuum. I am not in charge of what vacuums are purchased at the cleaning company I work for, but would like to be able to suggest a less restrictive power source. And many places have outlets that are falling apart. Lol.

 

[berkeman]

I only ask because those afraid of cell phone radiation giving them a brain tumor would get any dangerous radiation from the battery more than the screen.

Yeah, you got us there. 12V batteries do indeed emit a lot of 2.4GHz microwave radiation that can heat up your brain and gonads. Vaya con dios...

 

[Vanadium 50]

Vaya con diodes.

 

[Averagesupernova]

Yeah, you got us there. 12V batteries do indeed emit a lot of 2.4GHz microwave radiation that can heat up your brain and gonads. Vaya con dios...

Yeah. In Back to the future it could have happened. I bet that's how Darth Vader would have done it. You can check it out here:
https://www.google.com/search?clien...i0DkYQ0pQJegQICBAB&biw=360&bih=512&dpr=3#ip=1

 

[berkeman]

Vaya con diodes.

Thank you for your rectification of the issues...

 

[Vanadium 50]

Thank you for your rectification of the issues...

Silence from the forum....you can hear a PIN drop.

 

[hutchphd]

Vaya con diodes.

I'm not very religious.......does that blessing work for all electric vehicles ?? To be administered during charging?
Or was that just a Schottke in the dark?
(Any depth to which you sink I can match..... its genetic. I beg you: cease this madness..)

 

[LightningInAJar]

Well thanks all for pointers.

 

[Vanadium 50]

Well thanks all for pointers.

&You're &welcome.