Doppler effect and concept of Beat Problem

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The discussion centers on calculating the frequency of beats heard by a cyclist with a bell ringing at 658.8 Hz as they approach a wall at 3.18 m/s. The cyclist first calculates the frequency of the sound reflected from the wall, arriving at 665 Hz, but initially miscalculates the beat frequency as 6.2 Hz. After further analysis, the cyclist correctly recalculates the reflected frequency to 671.2 Hz, leading to a new beat frequency of 12.4 Hz. The final calculation is confirmed as correct, resolving the initial confusion.
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Homework Statement


A cyclist with a bell ringing with a frequency of 658.8 Hz drives towards a wall with a speed of 3.18 ms-1. Just before colliding with the wall the cyclist hears beats, due to the bell itself and the reflection of the sound from the wall. What is the frequency of beats detected by the observer? Assume that the velocity of sound in air is 343 ms-1.
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Homework Equations


f'=f(c+v0)/(c-vs)
fbeat = f1 - f2

The Attempt at a Solution


f'=f(c+v0)/(c-vs)=f(c)/(c-3.18 )=665 Hz
and I am stuck here, I used fbeat = 665 - 658.8 = 6.2 Hz which is incorrect. Could someone help me please?
 
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Homework Statement


A cyclist with a bell ringing with a frequency of 658.8 Hz drives towards a wall with a speed of 3.18 ms-1. Just before colliding with the wall the cyclist hears beats, due to the bell itself and the reflection of the sound from the wall. What is the frequency of beats detected by the observer? Assume that the velocity of sound in air is 343 ms-1.View attachment 84371

Homework Equations


f'=f(c+v0)/(c-vs)
fbeat = f1 - f2

The Attempt at a Solution


f'=f(c+v0)/(c-vs)=f(c)/(c-3.18 )=665 Hz
and I am stuck here, I used fbeat = 665 - 658.8 = 6.2 Hz which is incorrect. Could someone help me please?

The wall "observes" sound from the cyclist, a moving source, which is at frequency higher than the original. It reflects sound with the modified frequency, and it is heard by the cyclist, as moving observer.
 
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ehild said:
The wall "observes" sound from the cyclist, a moving source, which is at frequency higher than the original. It reflects sound with the modified frequency, and it is heard by the cyclist, as moving observer.
Ok, so f'=f(c+v0)/(c-vs)=f(c)/(c-3.18 )=665 Hz
f''=f'(c+3.18)/(c)=671.2Hz
fbeat = 671.2 - 658.8 = 12.4 Hz
Is this correct now?
 
I think it is right.
 
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