Electromagnetism - particle moving in magnetic field

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A massive charged particle can move in a circular orbit within a time-varying magnetic field, provided the average magnetic field inside the orbit is twice the field at the orbit. The discussion revolves around applying Newton's second law and the Lorentz force to analyze the motion of the particle under the influence of both electric and magnetic fields. The induced electric field, resulting from the changing magnetic field, plays a crucial role in the particle's acceleration and deceleration. Participants explore mathematical expressions, including Maxwell's equations, to derive the relationship between the electric and magnetic fields. The conversation highlights the complexity of solving the equations and the necessity of understanding the underlying physics to achieve a valid solution.
  • #51


v(t)=\frac{D(t)}{r} where D(t) is some polynomial in t?
 
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  • #52


If the radial part is zero, doesn't that mean \frac{mv^2-Bvqr}{qr}=0...solve that for v
 
  • #53


refer to the feyman lectures on physics Vol 2 chapter17-3
 
  • #54


for a non trivial solution v(t)=\frac{B(r,t)q^2r^2}{m}

i still don't really see what to do next though?
 
  • #55


latentcorpse said:
for a non trivial solution v(t)=\frac{B(r,t)q^2r^2}{m}

i still don't really see what to do next though?

First, check your algebra because this result is a little off...second calculate dv/dt and hence find the tangential component of E...then check to see if E satisfies Gauss' Law (use the differential form) and Faraday's law (use the integral form).
 
  • #56


v(t)=\frac{B(r,t)qr}{m}

\Rightarrow \frac{d v(t)}{dt}=\frac{qr}{m} \frac{\partial{B(r,t)}}{\partial{t}}

therefore the tangential component of E is E_{\phi}=r\frac{\partial{B(r,t)}}{\partial{t}}


shall i just take a gaussian pillbox to test both Gauss and Faraday?
 
  • #57


latentcorpse said:
shall i just take a gaussian pillbox to test both Gauss and Faraday?

Why use the integral form of Gauss' law? Since you now know E (or at least have made a guess at what E is), just take the divergence of it.

And Faraday's law requires a loop, not a surface.
 
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