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Minnesota Joe
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Given this interesting information and given the Dürr and Teufel quote in post #21, I have another question if you don't mind. They wrote: "They must be there: a particle theory without particle positions is inconceivable." [emphasis mine]Demystifier said:Actually, it's the other way around. The idea that position is ontic in classical mechanics is much older, from which Bohmian mechanics looks like a natural extension.
If I take that claim literally, they are stating a necessary condition to have a particle theory. That seems to imply that "ontic" is the name for this relationship of necessity and that would explain why it is narrower than "real".
But that also seems to imply that what fixes the ontic quantities is what you take to be real in the first place (e.g. particles or fields or...)
What do you think of this?