Japan Earthquake: nuclear plants Fukushima part 2

In summary, there was a magnitude-5.3 earthquake that hit Japan's Fukushima prefecture, causing damage to the nuclear power plant. There is no indication that the earthquake has caused any damage to the plant's containment units, but Tepco is reinforcing the monitoring of the plant in response to the discovery of 5 loose bolts. There has been no news about the plant's fuel rods since the earthquake, but it is hoped that fuel fishing will begin in Unit 4 soon.
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Many years ago a co-worker summarized our rad safety training as, "don't lick the walls."
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
cesium and strontium?
Yes, primarily, and their decay products, e.g., Ba and Y, and a little Rb, precursor to Sr. They will be distributed at the surface and into the concrete. It's what accumulates at the surface, and it's not so much beta and decay gammas.

They could spray a binder on the concrete, but then disassembly, which would cause dust is an issue. One would have to do a wet grind and collect the fragments and particulate matter, and filter what dissolves in the water.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
If so, isn't that a good thing?
If you can just leave it alone then could be fine, but they are still supposed to work there for some time. And to keep the radiation levels of such working environment low enough to keep limits is troublesome. It's no longer an emergency, so limits are strict...

As I recall even in the very first years they already had some attempts and tests on this, and indeed, removing surface (possibly contaminated) layers was an option they tested.

Grinding, pressure washing, shot-blasting, acidic etching and so on...
 
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Fuel debris removal attempt halted at Fukushima Daiichi
https://world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/Fuel-debris-removal-attempt-halted-at-Fukushima-Da
On 19 August, Tepco announced that it planned to remove a few grams of melted fuel debris from unit 2 on August 22. The operation was expected to last about two weeks using a telescopic device equipped with a gripper tool. The device can extend up to 22 metres and access the debris through a penetration point in the primary containment vessel (PCV). The removal technique, which is being used for the first time in unit 2, will then be gradually extended to unit 3, where a large-scale recovery is expected in the early 2030s.

"Unit 2 was selected as the first block for the recovery of the fuel debris because we take into account the situation in terms of safety, reliability, speed and progress in the removal of the used fuel elements," Tepco said.

Workers at the plant today began inserting the guide pipe of the telescopic debris retrieval device into the PCV penetration point. The guide pipe was inserted to the front of the isolation valve and the first of five 1.5-metre-long push pipes to be used was prepared to be connected. The pipes are used to push the device inside the PCV and pull it back out when the operation is completed.

However, it was then noticed during the final checking process that the order of the first push pipe was different from the planned order. The workers had in fact prepared the second push pipe for insertion instead of the first one. It was confirmed the push pipe that should have been in the first position was in the fourth position. The incorrect order of the pipes meant they could not be connected correctly.
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Yikes. I wonder how many times they did dry-run practices. Apparently not many times...
 
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AP News - A robot has begun a 2-week mission to retrieve melted fuel from the damaged Fukushima nuclear plant
https://apnews.com/article/japan-nu...debris-robot-f36c5ead0bdb0facf77688dde644b7dc

TOKYO (AP) — An extendable robot began on Tuesday a two-week mission to retrieve the first sample of melted fuel debris from inside one of three damaged reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

Highly radioactive fuel and other materials in the reactors melted when a massive earthquake and tsunami in 2011 damaged the plant’s cooling systems.

The plant’s operator, Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings, has previously used small robots to examine the inside of the reactors, but this is the first time for it to collect a sample of the melted debris in what will mark the start of the most challenging part of the plant’s decadeslong decommissioning.

The mission was initially scheduled to begin on Aug. 22 but was suspended when workers noticed that five 1.5-meter (5-foot) pipes to be used to push the robot into the reactor had been arranged in the wrong order, TEPCO said.

It looks like they reconstructed the system properly this time.

The tongs will be used "to collect a fragment measuring less than 3 grams (0.1 ounce)." There are 28.35 grams per ounce (oz), to 3 grams is about 0.106 oz.
 
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These robots are very impressive, if you've ever seen one.

It seems like an easier solution would be to full the containment vessel floor to ceiling with borated high density concrete. ("blue blocks") Any idea why they don't?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Any idea why they don't?
Nuclear people these days already has a tendency for OCD, and they are ...
So likely it'll be clean when done.
Not buried: clean.
 
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Astronuc said:
retrieve melted fuel ... a fragment measuring less than 3 grams
I'm curious about what information the analysis results from such a sample will provide, and how that info can be used going forward. In other words, what does TEPCO hope to find out?
 
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gmax137 said:
I'm curious about what information the analysis results from such a sample will provide, and how that info can be used going forward. In other words, what does TEPCO hope to find out?
I think they will need to collect multiple samples to characterize the nature of the fuel and core support structure. In a severe accident case in which the 'core' (assemblies, control elements, and core support structures) melts, then one often refers to 'corium'.

It may be difficult to tell what happened with any certain, since they flooded the containment eventually with seawater, so there will have been many chemical reactions beyond just melting fuel - if the fuel did indeed melt.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
These robots are very impressive, if you've ever seen one.

It seems like an easier solution would be to full the containment vessel floor to ceiling with borated high density concrete. ("blue blocks") Any idea why they don't?
I suspect they want to deconstruct and remove the structure and return the site as close to natural as possible. If they basically entomb the structure in concrete, they will likely be required to do some kind of monitoring indefinitely.
 
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