Language fails that make you angry

[Jimmy Snyder]

You left out keen and kiewl (mispronounciation of cool).

 

[turbo]

Very regionalized... "Don't that nice!" instead of ain't that nice or similar. You've got to live in the woods up here to pick up some of these.

 

[Dembadon]

Yeah, "hella". I didn't start hearing that till about 4 months ago. How far has it gone?

Four months ago!?

People started saying that when I was in middle school¹ (late '90s).

¹ Northern California

 

[FtlIsAwesome]

A word that irritated me when first here was 'awesome!' Vivid and witty first time, then becomes a tiresome cliché that devalues a word. However I think it has worn off now and seems not to be heard so often.

*points to username*

 

[Ben Niehoff]

Four months ago!?

People started saying that when I was in middle school¹ (late '90s).

¹ Northern California

Nobody in SoCal says "hella", by the way, unless they're recent transplants.

 

[Dembadon]

Nobody in SoCal says "hella", by the way, unless they're recent transplants.

"Hella tight," or even "tight" by itself, made me doubt our species' ability to survive for much longer. It sounds absolutely ridiculous.

 

[dacruick]

"Hella tight," or even "tight" by itself, made me doubt our species' ability to survive for much longer. It sounds absolutely ridiculous.

I'm 21 and from the mean streets of Toronto so all of this slang is pretty normal to me. I can see easily how it might sound absolutely ridiculous but I'll take the stance that it's just efficient language that "all yall are trippin' on". #Haters

 

[zoobyshoe]

I was going to say, "Wicked," properly used is a New England, or more specifically, a Boston thing. It's a set part of the vernacular in the way Zooby describes it, not passing, but multigenerational.

This makes sense. Someone pegged me as an East Coaster last year when I blurted it out.

Moving to another idiom, during the 80s, did anyone else experience the term "FACE!" of "FACIAL!" which was then the equivalent of today's "OWNED!" or even "PWNED!"

I never heard this one. "Own", I was aware of.

Four months ago!?

People started saying that when I was in middle school¹ (late '90s).

¹ Northern California

Nobody in SoCal says "hella", by the way, unless they're recent transplants.

Seriously, I just started hearing some of the younger people I know start using "hella" about four months ago (in San Diego). They're not transplants and I'd never heard the expression before. It could be they picked it up from transplants, or that it was brought back from a trip North.

 

[Ben Niehoff]

Oh, maybe it's picking up in SoCal, then. I live in LA, I hardly ever hear it...but then again, I'm a physics grad student, so I stay in my cave most of the time.

 

[Fredrik]

Seriously, I just started hearing some of the younger people I know start using "hella" about four months ago (in San Diego). They're not transplants and I'd never heard the expression before. It could be they picked it up from transplants, or that it was brought back from a trip North.

Maybe they just watched the episode of South Park where Eric Cartman uses it a lot (and his friends find it annoying).

 

[zoobyshoe]

Maybe they just watched the episode of South Park where Eric Cartman uses it a lot (and his friends find it annoying).

That would explain it. I think the people I'm speaking of are no strangers to South Park.

 

[epenguin]

There is another recent one struggling to get out of the back of my mind, I will let you know when it escapes.

It jumped out.

Ace!

 

[Pythagorean]

When people use fail as an event, instead of failure; it's even harder to read when it's plural.

 

[Fredrik]

Doesn't the new usage of "fail" give it a different meaning than before? I would guess that it's used almost exclusively for public failures.

If you put on your T-shirt backwards, you have failed, and it's a failure, but if you correct it before anyone sees it, it's not a "fail". I actually like the idea of using "fail" to mean "a failure documented for the world to see".

 

[Ben Niehoff]

I see "fail" (in the context of Fredrik's pic) as a deliberately ungrammatical joke, along the lines of "I can has cheezburger" and "I know that feel, bro". I think the vast majority of people exclaiming "fail" are aware that it is not correct to use it that way, and in fact this is part of the joke. I would not say such a phenomenon has entered common usage yet as an acceptable grammatical construction.

 

[DaveC426913]

I would agree with Fredrik. Fail as a noun is a new word with a distinct meaning. It is not a misuse of an existing word; it is the evolution of a new use of the word.

Failing a math test is not "a fail". They're different.

Evolution of the language (as opposed to mere mangling of it) is an inevitable and noble principle.

 

[Fredrik]

Evolution of the language (as opposed to mere mangling of it) is an inevitable and noble principle.

Unfortunately it sometimes evolves through mere mangling. I've been told that it's now considered acceptable to pronounce nuclear "nucular". I blame George W. Bush and Jack Bauer.

 

[dacruick]

I've been told that it's now considered acceptable to pronounce nuclear "nucular".

Someone lied to you!

...I hope

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

Best I can tell it's supposed to be nukier. Watch at about 2:05.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhwBLE2bpnw

 

[Fredrik]

Turns out there's a Wikipedia page titled Nucular, that quotes several dictionaries, and also mentions both George W. Bush and Jack Bauer.

Dictionary.com appears to be saying that the "nucular" pronunciation is OK "by metathesis". Apparently that means to change the order of sounds. That doesn't make sense to me, since the dumb pronunciation adds a "you" sound.

 

[Galteeth]

"Fail" is a perfectly cromulent word.

 

[Ben Niehoff]

Metathesis is a pretty common linguistic process. It created the modern English words "bird" and "bright" from "brid" and "beorht". Probably lots of other examples, too.

I wonder if the people who invented these pronunciations a thousand years ago were personalities similar to G.W. Bush or Homer Simpson...

 

[Fredrik]

Turns out that the picture I linked to is a fake. Not surprising when you think about it. It's a real screenshot, but the question asked for another name for the trachea. She answered it correctly and won 32000 GBP.

 

[DaveC426913]

Unfortunately it sometimes evolves through mere mangling. I've been told that it's now considered acceptable to pronounce nuclear "nucular". I blame George W. Bush and Jack Bauer.

Agreed. Which is why I was making a distinction between evolution for the efficacy of the language (to express a new idea), and mere sloppiness.

 

[Char. Limit]

Jumping into this thread after reading just the first post!

I really hate it when people misspell words like "socialize" and "aluminum". They do it ALL THE TIME. Don't you guys just hate that?

 

[KingNothing]

Among the people I hang out with, "fail" is really, really commonly used as a noun. It's probably a generational thing. I notice a lot of people around 18-25 use it that way.

I think I get most annoyed by words being mispronounced when a person could easily sound them out by looking at them. Jewelry, nuclear, "etc.".

 

[Evo]

Agreed. Which is why I was making a distinction between evolution for the efficacy of the language (to express a new idea), and mere sloppiness.

This reminds me of an episode of I Love Lucy where she is pregnant and decides that she and Ricky should learn proper English, so she hires a tutor.

The tutor tells her that there are two words she should never use, one of them is swell and the other one is lousy. So she tells him to tell her the lousy one first.

 

[Char. Limit]

Among the people I hang out with, "fail" is really, really commonly used as a noun. It's probably a generational thing. I notice a lot of people around 18-25 use it that way.

*Looks at post*

*Looks at identity of original poster*

*looks at thread title*

You're trolling, right?

 

[Pythagorean]

Char limit, you missed the part where I was heckling him. He was justifying his use in the title, not saying it makes him angry.

KingNothing, I was just heckling, I'm really not that picky about English use as long as I can understand the message.

 

[KingNothing]

I wasn't bothered. If anything it puts it into perspective - we all probably unknowingly do things that bug others. I never said such annoyances were rational. :)

 

[FtlIsAwesome]

One thing I dislike is when people pronounce "coupon" as "koo-pon" instead of "Q-pon".

 

[epenguin]

One thing I dislike is when people pronounce "coupon" as "koo-pon" instead of "Q-pon".

"koo-pon" must be right! It comes from 'couper', to cut, pronounced 'koopay'.

 

[Dembadon]

Supposably
Pernounce
Eckcetera
Using "might" and "may" interchangeably

 

[turbo]

I once worked for a poorly-educated jerk (former history teacher!) who had absolutely no understanding of "consequently" or "subsequently", but he loved saying "subsequently" at the drop of a hat because it was a "big" word. Most of the time, he should have used "consequently", or should have dropped back to the mundane "because".

 

[Char. Limit]

One thing I dislike is when people pronounce "coupon" as "koo-pon" instead of "Q-pon".

Hey, I do that! And so does everyone else here!