Magnetic field of an infinite cyliner of fixed magnetization

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic field generated by an infinitely long cylinder with a fixed magnetization defined as \vec{M} = kr \hat{z}. Participants are attempting to derive the bound volume and surface currents, as well as the magnetic field inside and outside the cylinder, using integrals and Ampere's Law. There are challenges in setting up the integrals correctly, particularly regarding the distance from volume and surface elements to the point of interest, leading to concerns about divergence. The consensus is that the magnetic field outside the cylinder is zero, and there is uncertainty about the field inside, with some participants questioning the application of vector subtraction in cylindrical coordinates. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the complexities of electromagnetism calculations and the need for careful consideration of geometry and coordinate systems.
  • #51
Just to be clear, I think you should calculate the field using Ampere's law in terms of B and J_b for part (a). And then calculate it again using Ampere's law in terms of H for part (b).

I think the point of the question is to illustrate that using Ampere's Law in terms of H is often quicker than using it in terms of B; since for the former you don't need to know the bound currents, while for the latter you do.
 
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  • #52
Yeah that makes sense. Unfortunately, our lecturer laboured the expression for A that I was using, so I'm not sure what exactly was wanted.

But I'll do what you said, thanks.
 
  • #53
I have been struggling with this problem. I can get the equivalent expressions for most everything, what I can't understand is the Ampere's loop of the B field using the current density J_b. The differential area vector would always be in the z direction if we wanted B to be constant over the line, but J_b points in the phi direction. Thus J_b o da' will be zero, and then B=0 even when r<R. Can someone please help me??
 
  • #54
Cyb said:
I have been struggling with this problem. I can get the equivalent expressions for most everything, what I can't understand is the Ampere's loop of the B field using the current density J_b. The differential area vector would always be in the z direction if we wanted B to be constant over the line, but J_b points in the phi direction. Thus J_b o da' will be zero, and then B=0 even when r<R. Can someone please help me??

Hi cyb, welcome to PF!:smile:

What are you using as your Amperian loop and why?
 
  • #55
I think I figured it out. I was using circles, with centers at the axis of symmetry for the cylinder. On thinking about it more I came to a rectangle, whose long sides are parallel to the cylinder's axis, the top was outside of the cylinder and the bottom inside. Thus, B=0 outside, and since B has to be in the direction of the axis the only non-zero part of the loop is the length inside. Then using my current density and surface current for the intersected area I came up with the correct answer. Does that seem right?
 
  • #56
Cyb said:
I think I figured it out. I was using circles, with centers at the axis of symmetry for the cylinder. On thinking about it more I came to a rectangle, whose long sides are parallel to the cylinder's axis, the top was outside of the cylinder and the bottom inside. Thus, B=0 outside, and since B has to be in the direction of the axis the only non-zero part of the loop is the length inside. Then using my current density and surface current for the intersected area I came up with the correct answer. Does that seem right?

Sounds good!:approve:
 
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