Math Challenge - June 2023

In summary, the conversation discusses the reinstatement of monthly math challenge threads. Participants are allowed to use Google for research but not for finding the actual problems. The rules include not citing theorems that trivialize the problem, having fun, and a list of solved problems. The conversation also includes several problems solved by different participants, including finding a line that cuts a rectangle and triangle in half by area, proving that a function is periodic, showing that a certain number is irrational, and solving a group problem. Other problems involve finding the expected number of turns for a rook to reach a specific corner on a chessboard, determining if certain matrices are conjugate, and evaluating a product involving roots of unity. The conversation also discusses the possibility of a
  • #36
@fresh_42 The error in your proof is that you assume there is a minimal positive element of ##P(f)## when ##f## is periodic. Why can it not contain elements arbitrarily close to 0? If there is a minimal positive element of ##P(f),## call it ##T_0## then I think a simpler way of writing your argument is to say that for any other ##T\in P(f)##, you can perform long division ##T=nT_0+r## for integer ##n## and ##0\leq r<T_0.## Since ##P(f)## is an additive group containing ##T## and ##T_0##, you have ##r\in P(f)## which contradicts the minimality of ##T_0## unless ##r=0##, in which case ##T=nT_0## as desired.

fresh_42 said:
I may have overlooked something, which leads me to my question: What do you mean by counterexample?
I mean that the statement "If ##f## is continuous and not constant, then ##P(f)=T\mathbb{Z}## for some ##T\in\mathbb{R}##" is false without the condition that ##f## is continuous. @pasmith has already done this in post 27. Since you didn't actually use the fact that ##f## is continuous in your argument as far as I can see, that's a sign it can't be right since that assumption is necessary.
 
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  • #37
Infrared said:
@fresh_42 The error in your proof is that you assume there is a minimal positive element of ##P(f)## when ##f## is periodic. Why can it not contain elements arbitrarily close to 0?
Because then it would be zero as ##0\in P(f).## That's the only place I use continuity, admitted.
Infrared said:
If there is a minimal positive element of ##P(f),## call it ##T_0## then I think a simpler way of writing your argument is to say that for any other ##T\in P(f)##, you can perform long division ##T=nT_0+r## for integer ##n## and ##0\leq r<T_0.## Since ##P(f)## is an additive group containing ##T## and ##T_0##, you have ##r\in P(f)## which contradicts the minimality of ##T_0## unless ##r=0##, in which case ##T=nT_0## as desired.
This is equivalent to my minimality argument, only that minimality is hidden in the remainder term of the Euclidean algorithms. A matter of taste.
Infrared said:
I mean that the statement "If ##f## is continuous and not constant, then ##P(f)=T\mathbb{Z}## for some ##T\in\mathbb{R}##" is false without the condition that ##f## is continuous.

Have you looked at my example with the sine? It is clearly not continuous and periodic (##\pi##) and not constant.

Infrared said:
@pasmith has already done this in post 27. Since you didn't actually use the fact that ##f## is continuous in your argument as far as I can see, that's a sign it can't be right since that assumption is necessary.
Oh, you meant a counterexample to ##P(f)=T\mathbb{Z}## and not to continuity.
 
  • #38
fresh_42 said:
Because then it would be zero as ##0\in P(f).## That's the only place I use continuity, admitted.

Great, so as soon as you include a proof that ##P(f)## has a minimal positive element when ##f## is continuous (assuming of course that ##P(f)\neq\{0\}##), your solution will be correct :)
 
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  • #39
Infrared said:
Great, so as soon as you include a proof that ##P(f)## has a minimal positive element when ##f## is continuous (assuming of course that ##P(f)\neq\{0\}##), your solution will be correct :)
Added to the proof as "Edit" comment.
 
  • #40
fresh_42 said:
Added to the proof as "Edit" comment.
Edit: Sorry, I actually don't quite follow the first argument. ##f(x)=f(x+T_n)## for a sequence ##T_n\to 0## does not imply that ##f## is constant in a neighborhood of ##x.## This would be satisfied by any function continuous at ##x.## I'm probably misreading your argument?

I'm also having a hard time reading the second argument, though. For exmaple, the set ##\{T\in P(f):f(x_0)=f(x_0+T)\}## is just ##P(f)## since the condition imposed ##f(x_0)=f(x_0)+T## is already implied by the definition of ##P(f).##
 
  • #41
Infrared said:
Edit: Sorry, I actually don't quite follow the first argument. ##f(x)=f(x+T_n)## for a sequence ##T_n\to 0## does not imply that ##f## is constant in a neighborhood of ##x.## This would be satisfied by any function continuous at ##x.## I'm probably misreading your argument?

I'm also having a hard time reading the second argument, though. For exmaple, the set ##\{T\in P(f):f(x_0)=f(x_0+T)\}## is just ##P(f)## since the condition imposed ##f(x_0)=f(x_0)+T## is already implied by the definition of ##P(f).##
Yes, please forget it. It was too quick (and very dirty), too late, too hot and I was too tired. I will have to think about it in daylight. Sorry for your inconvenience.
 
  • #42
Effectively, can we have uncountable chains in the lattice [itex]\mathcal P(\mathbb N)[/itex]?
Dedekind cuts. For any [itex]r\in\mathbb R[/itex] let [itex]S_r := \{q\in\mathbb Q \mid q<r\}[/itex]. It follows that [itex]\mathbb R\to\mathcal P(\mathbb Q), r\mapsto S_r[/itex], is injective. Let [itex]f:\mathbb Q\to\mathbb N[/itex] be a bijection, which induces [itex]F:\mathcal P(\mathbb Q)\to\mathcal P(\mathbb N), A\mapsto \{f(a)\mid a\in A\}[/itex]. Clearly, this is bijective.

Let [itex]r<s[/itex] in [itex]\mathbb R[/itex]. Note that
[tex]
F(S_r) = \{f(q) \mid q\in S_r\} = \{f(q) \mid q<r\} \subseteq \{f(q) \mid q<s\} = F(S_s).
[/tex]

So [itex]F(S_r), r\in \mathbb R[/itex], is a linearly ordered subset of [itex]\mathcal P(\mathbb N)[/itex].
 
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  • #43
@nuuskur Nice job! A friend gave me this one and it took quite a bit longer for me to solve than it should have. My instinct was that there was no such family and I spent a while trying to prove it before I considered that it might be possible.
 
  • #44
Initially, I thought it was impossible too, because I couldn't somehow "constructively" make a chain with R-many elements when thinking explicitly about subsets of N. Then I started thinking about it for Q and the answer was more or less apparent. The black box is the bijection ##f##, since its existence can be justified if an injection [itex]\mathbb Q\to\mathbb N[/itex] is found. I am not even going to try and understand what this chain looks like o0)
 
  • #45
Infrared said:
@nuuskur Nice job! A friend gave me this one and it took quite a bit longer for me to solve than it should have. My instinct was that there was no such family and I spent a while trying to prove it before I considered that it might be possible.

I don't see a problem with constructing an uncountable sequence like that using Dedekind cuts, but it bugs me because it also seems like we can also construct an injection from a sequence like that into ##\mathbb{N}##: Let's say that ##A \in \mathcal{F} ## is some element of the chain. Then ##\Delta A = A - \bigcup_{B \in \mathcal{F}, B \subsetneq A} B ## should be a non-empty set since all the ##B##s are proper subsets of ##A## and that union is equal to one of them [Edit: this isn't true for infinite unions] and since ##\Delta A## is a set of natural numbers and the natural numbers are well-ordered, it should have a smallest element ##\min \Delta A ##. Then for any particular chain ##\mathcal{F}##, ##A \rightarrow \min \Delta A## should be an injection. Clearly ##\min \Delta A## can't be in any set ##B \subsetneq A## in chain because those elements were subtracted out so ##\min \Delta B \neq \min \Delta A##, and similarly for any ##C \supsetneq A## the elements of ##A## can't be in ##\Delta C## so ##\min \Delta C \neq \min \Delta A##.

Am I missing something obvious? Edit: Ah, right ##\mathbb{N} = \bigcup \{ 1 \}, \{1,2\}, \{1,2,3\} \ldots ## even if all of the individual elements of the union are finite and included in each other.
 
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  • #46
nuuskur said:
It's not immediately obvious to me why ##\Delta A## should be nonempty. You seem to claim something like ##[0,1-1/n)## does not converge to ##[0,1]## because all the individual sets are proper subsets.
Well, it's that ##\bigcup_{n=2}^{\infty} [0,1-1/n) = [0,1) ##. The union won't contain 1 so it doesn't converge to the closed interval.
 
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  • #47
@Throwaway_for_June @nuuskur Are you responding to the correct thread? I don't see the notation ##\Delta A## anywhere in this thread.
 
  • #48
Infrared said:
@Throwaway_for_June @nuuskur Are you responding to the correct thread? I don't see the notation ##\Delta A## anywhere in this thread.
Yeah, we were discussing one of the answers. Mods are reviewing my edits.
 
  • #49
Part of his or her argument was the following. Let ##\mathcal A## be a chain of ##\mathcal P(\mathbb N)##. Take ##A\in\mathcal A## and consider
[tex]
\Delta A := A\setminus \bigcup _{B\subset A}B.
[/tex]
Let's assume ##\Delta A## is nonempty subset of ##\mathbb N##, hence it has smallest element ##m_A##. So, we have ##\mathcal A\to\mathbb N, A\mapsto m_A##. They also had some argument to show it's injective, but the problem is if it was injective, then clearly we can't have uncountable chains.

I think it's reasonable to claim nonemptiness, though that is also not obvious to me. But I don't think injectivity follows (I mean, in hindsight, it couldn't).
 
  • #50
It is also not necessarily true that ##\Delta A## is nonempty. If so, it would also be the case if you replaced ##\mathbb{N}## with ##\mathbb{Q}## but with if you use the Dedekind cuts ##S_a=\{q\in\mathbb{Q}:q<a\}## for ##a\in\mathbb{R},## you see that any ##S_a\setminus\bigcup_{b<a}S_b## is empty.

Also, please don't have conversation in threads where you delete the messages after. It makes it impossible for anyone else who's reading to follow.
 
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  • #51
nuuskur said:
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I think it's reasonable to claim nonemptiness, though that is also not obvious to me. But I don't think injectivity follows (I mean, in hindsight, it couldn't).

If the ##\Delta A##s are all non-empty and disjoint, then taking the least element of each ##\Delta A## will produce an injection. The ##\Delta##s have to be disjoint because of the way the chain is ordered, so at most countably many of the elements in one of these chains can have a non-empty ##\Delta## . Infinities are weird.
 
  • #52
4)

From the definition of the commutator ##[S_7, S_3] \leq S_7 \cap S_3## but ##S_7 \cap S_3 = 1## and so ##[S_7, S_3] = 1## but ##S_7## and ##S_3## are abelian and therefore ##G## also is
 
  • #53
@Infrared Again for #2. I think I have a proof for uniformly continuous functions. My proof does not work for only continuous functions because I get a circle argumentation with the quantifiers if continuity depends on the location. Are you sure it isn't necessary? It may not play a role in ##P(f)## but it does in ##\mathbb{R}\backslash P(f).## I even tried tricks with closed intervals but I cannot get rid of the location.
 
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  • #54
#2: We may assume P(f) contains more than just 0. Since f is continuous, P(f) is closed, and if P(f) contained an arbitrarily small positive element, it would also be dense. Since f is constant on P(f) with value f(0), this would imply f is constant with value f(0). Thus if f is continuous and non constant, and P(f) ≠ {0}, there is a smallest positive element T of P(f). Since P(f) is closed under addition and subtraction, P(f) = Z.T.
 
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  • #55
Here is my proof for #2 under the assumption that ##f## is uniformly continuous.
Lemma: ##P(f)## is a group under addition.

Proof: Clearly, ##0\in P(f).## By the all quantifier ##(*)## in the definition of ##P(f)##
\begin{align*}
T\in P(f)&\Longrightarrow f(x)=f(x+T-T)=f((x-T)+T)\stackrel{(*)}{=}f(x-T)\\&\Longrightarrow -T\in P(f)\\
S,T\in P(f)&\Longrightarrow f(x)=f(x+T)\stackrel{(*)}{=}f((x+T)+S)=f(x+(T+S))\\&\Longrightarrow T+S \in P(f)
\end{align*}
Since ##0\in P(f)## in any case, we have ##P(f)=\{0\}=0\cdot \mathbb{Z}## for non-periodic functions ##f.## We may therefore assume that ##f## is periodic and in particular not constant.

If ##P(f)## contains an interval of positive length, then ##f## is constant. If ##P(f)## has a minimal positive element ##T_0## then ##T_0\mathbb{Z}\subseteq P(f)## since ##P(f)## is an additive group. Now assume ##0\neq T\in P(f).## Then we have to show that ##T=nT_0## for some ##n\in \mathbb{Z}.## We assume that ##T>T_0##, since there is nothing to show for ##T=T_0## and negative values, can be turned into positive by the above argument. Let ##T\in [\,nT_0,(n+1)T_0\,).## Then
$$
f(x+(T-nT_0))=f((x-nT_0)+T)\stackrel{T\in P(f)}{=}f(x-nT_0)\stackrel{T_0\mathbb{Z}\subseteq P(f)}{=}f(x)
$$
contradicting the minimality of ##T_0## since
$$
T-nT_0 < (n+1)T_0-nT_0=T_0
$$
except for ##T=nT_0.## Equivalently you can write any ##T\in P(f)## as ##P(f)\ni T-qT_0=r## by the Euclidean algorithm. Since ##0<r<T_0## is impossible, we have ##r=0## and ##T=qT_0.##

##P(f)## is closed since ##f## is continuous: Let ##(T_n)\subset P(f)## be a converging sequence. Then
$$
f(x+\lim_{n \to \infty}T_n)=f(\lim_{n \to \infty}(x+T_n))=\lim_{n \to \infty}f(x+T_n)=f(x)
$$
i.e. ##\displaystyle{\lim_{n \to \infty}T_n\in P(f).}## The set ##U:=\mathbb{R}\backslash P(f)## is therefore open and dense as ##P(f)## does not contain an interval of positive length. Assume there is no minimal, positive element in ##P(f).## This means there is a strictly monotone decreasing sequence ##(T_n)\subset P(f)## with ##\displaystyle{\lim_{n \to \infty}T_n}=0## and ##T_n>0.##

Let ##u\in U## and ##x_u\in \mathbb{R}## such that ##|f(x_u+u)-f(x_u)|=d>0## and ##\varepsilon =d/2.## We can choose ##T_n## for sufficiently large ##n## and ##u## sufficiently close to ##0## such that ##|T_n-u|<\delta(\varepsilon )## if we want to get ##|f(T_n)-f(u)|<\varepsilon .##
Then ##|(T_n+x_u)-(u+x_u)|=|T_n-u|<\delta (\varepsilon ) ## and if ##f## is uniformly continuous at ##T_n## and ##T_n+x_u## then
$$
d=|f(x_u+u)-f(x_u)|=|f(x_u+u)-f(x_u+T_n)|<\varepsilon =d/2.
$$
This is a contradiction and means that there is no such sequence ##(T_n),## i.e. ##P(f)## has a minimal element.
 
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  • #56
#10: If A is path connected then B cannot be connected, hence also not path connected, essentially by the Jordan curve theorem. It is "obvious" but already tricky to prove even that they cannot both be path connected. I do not see whether both can be connected. In fact I only know one connected set that is not path connected, the topologist's sine curve plus (0,0), (or the full closure of the topologist's sine curve).

here is a little more detail on why 3), hence nor 2), cannot be true: if there is a path in A connecting (0,0) to (1,1), then there is a simple such path (every path connected Hausdorff space is "simple path"-connected). Then add on 3/4 of the circle with center (1,0) and radius one (all but the NW quarter), to form a simple closed curve containing (1,0) but not (0,1) in its interior. Then Jordan says the interior and exterior of this curve are disjoint open sets. These open sets will then disconnect any subset B of the square which is disjoint from A and contains both (0,1) and (1,0). QED.

For a slick argument just that A and B cannot both be path connected, one wants to show that any path connecting (0,0) to (1,1) within the square, meets any path connecting (0,1) to (1,0) within the square. But intersection number is a homotopy invariant, so we can replace these 2 paths by the 2 diagonals, which clearly intersect once transversely. QED.

Rmk: One can also do this directly, arguing via various projections within the square, essentially a homotopy argument. In his beautiful book on ODE, Arnol'd uses this fact to solve the following problem: if two cars manage to drive between two points A and B along two different non intersecting roads, while joined by a rope of length < 2L, can two circular wagons of radius L drive along those roads in opposite directions (with their center on the road) without colliding? (He constructs a "phase space" for this problem which is identical to the setup in problem #10. 2).)
 
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  • #57
#9: the preimage of [1:0] is the circle consisting of all (z,w) such that w = 0 and |z|^2 = 1, and the preimage of [0:1] is the circle consisting of all (z,w) such that z=0 and |w|^2 = 1. Their linking number is the intersection number of one loop with a disc in S^3 capping off the other loop. Such a disc in S^3 capping off the loop {(z,0): |z|^2 = 1} is the set {(z,t): |z|^2 + t^2 = 1, and 0≤t≤1, t real}. This disc intersects {(0,w): |w|^2 = 1} transversely in the point (0,1). Hence the loops are linked.
 
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  • #58
@fresh_42 A continous function which is periodic is uniformly continuous.

@mathwonk Everything you said it right, but very concise. Perhaps you would like to elaborate on how the Jordan curve theorem shows that a path from ##(0,0)## to ##(1,1)## disconnects the square? I had a solution in mind without the Jordan curve theorem but perhaps what you have is good too.

@projective This is right, but quite brief, so just to fill in the gaps for anyone else: ##S_7## and ##S_3## are the (Sylow) subgroups of orders ##7## and ##9## respectively. If ##x\in S_7## and ##y\in S_3## because if ##x\in S_7## and ##y\in S_3## then ##xyx^{-1}y^{-1}=(xyx^{-1})y^{-1}=x(yx^{-1}y^{-1})## shows it to be in ##S_3\cap S_7=\{1\}## since both subgroups are normal.

So, every element of ##S_3## commutes with every element of ##S_7.## Together, these subgroups generate the whole group because the map ##S_3\times S_7\to G, (x,y)\mapsto xy## is injective and hence surjective. Since every group of order ##9## and ##7## is already abelian, this means that ##G## is abelian.
 
  • #59
Infrared said:
@fresh_42 A continous function which is periodic is uniformly continuous.
I suspected this but couldn't see an immediate argument for locations whose distance isn't in ##P(f).##

I was already happy that I recognized that I had to use it. People usually simply write ##\forall \varepsilon \exists \delta ## where they actually use ##\forall \varepsilon \exists\delta (x_0;\varepsilon ).## This is a nice example for my mantra to always keep track of dependencies like ##\forall \varepsilon \exists N(\varepsilon )## instead of ##N.##
 
  • #60
fresh_42 said:
Here is my proof for #2 under the assumption that ##f## is uniformly continuous.
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Seems like you're using some unnecessary big guns...

Suppose for the sake of contradiction that ##f## is not constant, that ##f## is continuous, and that ##P(f)## has arbitrarily small strictly positive elements.

Since ##f## is not constant, it must take on at least two different values. Let those values be ##a=f(x_a)## and ##b=f(x_b)## so ##b-a \neq 0##

Since ##f## is continuous everywhere, it's continuous at ##0##. So for ##\forall \epsilon > 0 \exists \delta>0 : |x| < \delta \implies \left| f(x) - f(0) \right| < \epsilon##. In particular, there's some ##\delta_{ab} > 0## corresponding to ##\epsilon = \left| \frac{ b-a }{2} \right|##.

Since ##P(f)## has arbitrarily small strictly positive elements it contains some element ##\iota## with ##0 < \iota < \delta_{ab}##.

Now we have ##\delta_{ab} > \iota > \left| x_a - \lfloor \frac{x_a}{\iota} \rfloor \iota \right| ##, ##\delta_{ab} > \iota > \left| x_b - \lfloor \frac{x_b}{\iota} \rfloor \iota \right ##, so ## \left| b-a \right| > \left| f(x_a - \lfloor \frac{x_a}{\iota} \rfloor \iota) - f(0) \right| + \left| f(x_b - \lfloor \frac{x_b}{\iota} \rfloor \iota) - f(0) \right| = \left| f(x_a) - f(0) \right| + \left|f(x_b - f(0) \right| \geq \left| f(x_b) - f(x_a) \right| = \left| b-a \right|##, but ##\left| b-a \right|## can't be bigger than itself so we have a contradiction.
 
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  • #61
I have edited my post 56 to provide more detail on #10, that 3) hence also 2) fails, as well as thrown in an independent, but terse, proof just that 2) fails.SPOILER: problem #10,
Here is an argument that 1) is actually possible, using the only example I know, the topologist's sine curve. For convenience, change from the given square, to the square with vertices (-1,2), (3,2), (3,-2), (-1,-2). We wish to find a connected subset A of this square containing (-1,-2) and (3,2), and a connected subset B containing (-1,2) and (3,-2), with A and B disjoint.

Take the graph of y = sin(1/x), for 0 < x ≤ 1/π, and add in the line segment from (1/π,0) to (3,2), plus the line segment from (-1,-2) to (0,0), as our set A. Then as is well known, this set is connected, although not path connected. For B take the complement of this subset in the square. We claim that against all (my) intuition, B is also connected.

To prove it, use my favorite definition of connectedness, namely that every continuous function f from B to the set {0,1} is constant. Start by setting f(3,-2) = 0. Then, to be continuous, f must equal zero on every point of the square which is directly below (i.e. has the same x coordinate as, and a smaller y coordinate than) a point of A, since in fact the set of such points is path connected, every point being connected by a vertical segment to the bottom edge of the square. For the same reason, if not constant, f must have value 1 at all points directly above a point of A. But that is a contradiction to continuity at points of the y axis lying between (0,-1) and (0,0), and also those between (0,0) and (0,1), since all such points are in the closure of points where f has value zero, and also of points where f has value 1. So f must be constant, and B is connected.

One can easily shift and scale this square until it is the one given.

what fun! so now I know a second example of a connected, but not path connected, set.
 
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My attempt for #7:
Let ##GL_n^+(\mathbb{R})## be the set of invertible ##n\times n## real matrices with positive determinant. Suppose that ##A## and ##B## are elements of ##GL_n^+(\mathbb{R})## and similar in the sense that ##A=PBP^{-1}## for some ##P\in GL_n(\mathbb{R})##. Can you necessarily find a matrix ##Q\in GL_n^+(\mathbb{R})## such that ##A=QBQ^{-1}?## In other words, if two matrices in ##GL_n^+(\mathbb{R})## are conjugate as elements of ##GL_n(\mathbb{R})##, are they also conjugate as elements of ##GL_n^+(\mathbb{R})?##

If ##n## is odd, then (##-I## is in the center of ##GL_n(\mathbb{R})##)
$$
A=PBP^{-1}=(P\cdot (-I))B(P\cdot (-I))^{-1}
$$
and ##\det (P\cdot(-I))=(-1)^n\det P=-\det P.## We can thus always change the sign of the determinant of ##P## if it exists at all.

The statement is not generally true in case ##n## is even.

Set ##A=\begin{pmatrix}0&-1\\2&0\end{pmatrix}## and ##B=\begin{pmatrix}0&2\\-1&0\end{pmatrix}.## Then
\begin{align*}
\begin{pmatrix}0&-1\\2&0\end{pmatrix}&=\begin{pmatrix}0&1\\1&0\end{pmatrix}\cdot\begin{pmatrix}0&2\\-1&0\end{pmatrix}\cdot\begin{pmatrix}0&1\\1&0\end{pmatrix}
\end{align*}
Assume there is a matrix ##Q=\begin{pmatrix}p&q\\r&s\end{pmatrix}## such that ##ps-rq>0## and ##A=QBQ^{-1}.## Then
$$
\begin{pmatrix}p&q\\r&s\end{pmatrix}=\underbrace{\begin{pmatrix}q&p\\s&r\end{pmatrix}}_{=R}\cdot \underbrace{\begin{pmatrix}0&1\\1&0\end{pmatrix}}_{=P}
$$
and
\begin{align*}
A&=PBP^{-1}=QBQ^{-1}=RPB(RP)^{-1}=RPBP^{-1}R^{-1}=RAR^{-1}\\
[A,R]&=AR-RA=0
\end{align*}
but
$$
\left[\begin{pmatrix}0&-1\\2&0\end{pmatrix}\, , \,\begin{pmatrix}q&p\\s&r\end{pmatrix}\right]=\begin{pmatrix}-s-2p&-r+q\\ 2q-2r&2p+s\end{pmatrix}\neq\begin{pmatrix}0&0\\0&0\end{pmatrix}
$$
If it was the zero matrix, then ##r=q## and ##s=-2p## and ##ps-rq=-2p^2-q^2<0.##
 
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  • #63
Throwaway_for_June said:
Seems like you're using some unnecessary big guns...

Suppose for the sake of contradiction that ##f## is not constant, that ##f## is continuous, and that ##P(f)## has arbitrarily small strictly positive elements.

Since ##f## is not constant, it must take on at least two different values. Let those values be ##a=f(x_a)## and ##b=f(x_b)## so ##b-a \neq 0##

Since ##f## is continuous everywhere, it's continuous at ##0##. So for ##\forall \epsilon > 0 \exists \delta>0 : |x| < \delta \implies \left| f(x) - f(0) \right| < \epsilon##. In particular, there's some ##\delta_{ab} > 0## corresponding to ##\epsilon = \left| \frac{ b-a }{2} \right|##.

Since ##P(f)## has arbitrarily small strictly positive elements it contains some element ##\iota## with ##0 < \iota < \delta_{ab}##.

Now we have ##\delta_{ab} > \iota > \left| x_a - \lfloor \frac{x_a}{\iota} \rfloor \iota \right| ##, ##\delta_{ab} > \iota > \left| x_b - \lfloor \frac{x_b}{\iota} \rfloor \iota \right ##, so ## \left| b-a \right| > \left| f(x_a - \lfloor \frac{x_a}{\iota} \rfloor \iota) - f(0) \right| + \left| f(x_b - \lfloor \frac{x_b}{\iota} \rfloor \iota) - f(0) \right| = \left| f(x_a) - f(0) \right| + \left|f(x_b - f(0) \right| \geq \left| f(x_b) - f(x_a) \right| = \left| b-a \right|##, but ##\left| b-a \right|## can't be bigger than itself so we have a contradiction.
You haven't seen my attempts with Urysohn! Anyway, I needed the same delta at two different, arbitrary locations. Otherwise, my quantifiers wouldn't have allowed my conclusion.
 
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a continuous periodic function is a composition of a distance decreasing function (exp) with a continuous function on a (compact) circle, hence uniformly continuous.
 
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@fresh_42 Nice, looks all right to me for number 7! A geometric example is that rotation by an angle ##\theta## counterclockwise and rotation by ##\theta## clockwise are only conjugate with a negative determinant matrix (because if you make an orientation-preserving transformation, that preserves which basis vector is counterclockwise to the other).
 
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@mathwonk Be careful about invoking homotopy invariance of intersection number- that's true for closed manifolds, but otherwise you'll need to say something about the curves being nice towards the boundary (which fortunately isn't hard to arrange: you can assume that they start off as diagonals and then change inside of a slightly smaller square). This is very similar to the solution I came up with when my friend gave me this problem. I glued the square into a torus along opposite edges and then used homotopy invariance there.

For the case of one connected, and one path-connected, here's a more elementary argument if you've already solved the case of both path-connected: Since ##[0,1]## is compact, the image of a path connecting opposite vertices is a closed subset of the square. Its complement being open means that the path-component of any point in ##X=\text{(square) }-\text{ (path connecting opposite vertices)}## is open. Since you already know that ##X## has at least two path-components, writing it as the union of its (open) path-components shows it to be disconnected.
 
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Thanks to everyone for participating! It looks like all of the problems have been solved, except for the botched #1. Stay tuned next month for some more problems. It looks like I'll have to make them harder given how quickly these were all solved!
 
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Infrared said:
@fresh_42 Nice, looks all right to me for number 7! A geometric example is that rotation by an angle ##\theta## counterclockwise and rotation by ##\theta## clockwise are only conjugate with a negative determinant matrix (because if you make an orientation-preserving transformation, that preserves which basis vector is counterclockwise to the other).

In case some readers are interested in how I have proceeded:

I thought about the FTA. Means: problems (artificial or not) in linear algebra have often to do with the lack of eigenvalues, especially over the real numbers. Polynomials of an odd degree have always a real zero, those of an even degree do not necessarily. The translation of ## \boldsymbol i ## into ##\begin{pmatrix}0&1\\1&0\end{pmatrix}## was the next step and finally looking for a matrix that does not commute with it. And matrix multiplication was done by
https://www.symbolab.com/solver/matrix-calculator
listed on
https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...h-physics-earth-and-other-curiosities.970262/
 
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@Infrared: I extended the curves from maps of intervals to maps of the circle, hence defined on a compact one-manifold without boundary, and with an extra intersection outside the square. Then used definition of intersection number of the maps (mod 2 would do) via inverse image of the diagonal of the target manifold (the plane) under the product map.

Bott gave the short argument in class some 50 odd years ago, just as I did, without details, as was his habit. I like your torus trick.
 
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Working on problem #10 taught me a little fact about connectedness I had not noticed before. I knew that the union of connected sets which have a common point is also connected. Thus one can describe the connected component of a space X containing a point p as the union of all those connected subsets of X that contain p. I also knew that the closure of a connected set is connected, but somehow I did not realize that the union of a family of connected sets, whose union contains a point common to all their closures, is therefore also connected. I.e. if the sets are all connected and there is a point p that is in the closure of all of them, and actually in at least one of them, then the union is connected. In the construction for problem #10 above in post 61, the set B is the union of two path connected sets whose closures (in B) intersect, hence it is connected. I.e. the point (0,1/2) for instance is a point of B that is above the set A, and also in the closure of points of B that are below the set A. (In fact so is (0,1), although slightly less obviously to me.) Thus the connected component of B containing the point (0,1/2) is the union of all connected subsets of B that have (0,1/2) in their closure, i.e. all of B.

@Infrared: By the way, your nice elementary argument in post 66 seems to prove another case, namely if A is connected and closed, then B cannot be connected, since the complement of A is open, so since the other two vertices are not in the same path component of the complement of A, they are also not in the same connected component. (Of course, as you know, it is not enough just to observe that the complement of A is disconnected, you also want the opposite vertices to be in different connected components, but that also follows from your argument about path components equalling connected components.)
 
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