Max Tension Force for Box Not to Slip: 24.5N

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The discussion centers on calculating the maximum tension force in a scenario where a rope pulls a sled with a box on it across frictionless snow. The coefficient of static friction for wood on wood is given as 0.5, leading to a calculated maximum static friction force of 24.5N for the 5kg box. However, it is emphasized that this value only represents the force the sled can exert on the box without slipping, not the total tension needed. To find the maximum tension, one must also consider the acceleration of both the box and the sled together. Thus, the final answer requires accounting for the combined mass and the resulting acceleration to determine the true maximum tension force.
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Homework Statement



A horizontal rope pulls a 10kg wood sled across frictionless snow. A 5.0kg wood box rides on the sled. The coefficient of static friction for wood on wood is mu = 0.5.

What is the largest tension force for which the box doesn't slip?

Homework Equations



f(static) = mu * f(normal)


The Attempt at a Solution



I don't really see how the mass of the sled is relevant. But here's what I did:

f(static) = 0.5 * 5(9.81) = 24.5N
 
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You've calculated the maximum horizontal force the sled can exert on the 5 Kg box. That is not the whole answer to the question though.

In order to exert that force and accelerate the box, the sled itself must also be accelerating, and therefore you must calculate the acceleration that the 5 Kg box would undergo with a force of 24.5 N acting on it. The max tension in the rope would be the force required to accelerate the box AND the sled.
 
ah ok. Thanks for the reply.
 
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