Multivariable Calculus proof for Optics

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The discussion revolves around proving identities related to multivariable calculus in optics, specifically using the divergence theorem. Part A addresses the challenge of deriving the identity by treating r' as a constant vector, with uncertainty about handling the denominator. Part B expresses confusion about the next steps, while Part C applies the divergence theorem to relate an integral to a delta function, noting that the integral's value depends on whether it contains the point r' = r. The conclusion emphasizes that the integrand is not regular, as it is expected to be proportional to a delta function, indicating a singularity at that point.
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Homework Statement
Prove that the identity ##\nabla_{\textbf{r}} \frac{1}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|} = -\frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3}## where ##\nabla_{r}## operates only on r, treating r' as a constant vector.

Next, prove that ##\nabla_{\textbf{r}} \frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3} = 0## except at r = r' where a singularity situation occurs.

Finally, use the divergence theorem to show that the function ##\nabla_{\textbf{r}} \frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3}## is ## 4\pi## times the threee-dimensional delta function: ##\delta^3(\textbf{r'} - \textbf{r}) \equiv \delta(x' - x)\delta(y' - y)\delta(z' - z)##
Relevant Equations
The Dirac delta function is defined indirectly as ##f(t) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(t') \delta (t' - t) dt' ##
The divergence theorem for a vector function F is ##\oint_{S} F \cdot \hat n~dA = \int_V \nabla \cdot F~dV##
Part A)

For part A I forgo breaking down the identity into it's component x, y, and z parts, and just take the r derivative treating r' as a constant vector. This seems to give the right answer, but to be entirely honest I'm not sure how I'd go about doing this component by component. I figure I'd replace the numerator with x - x' (or whatever direction I'm working with) but what would I do with the denominator? Would I just take the components there too, would I need to use the distance equation?

Part B) Really not sure what to do with this part.

Part C)

By the divergence theorem, I get $$\oint_{S} \frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3} \cdot \hat n~dA = \int_V \cdot \nabla_{\textbf{r}} \frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3}~dV$$

From part B, the argument in the integral on the right side must be zero except at ##r' = r##, which makes both sides of the relation zero except at that point. I'm sure there's a way to relate that to a delta function somehow but I'm not sure what it is.
 
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Blanchdog said:
Homework Statement:: Prove that the identity ##\nabla_{\textbf{r}} \frac{1}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|} = -\frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3}## where ##\nabla_{r}## operates only on r, treating r' as a constant vector.

Next, prove that ##\nabla_{\textbf{r}} \frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3} = 0## except at r = r' where a singularity situation occurs.

Finally, use the divergence theorem to show that the function ##\nabla_{\textbf{r}} \frac{(\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}')}{|\textbf{r} - \textbf{r}'|^3}## is ## 4\pi## times the threee-dimensional delta function: ##\delta^3(\textbf{r'} - \textbf{r}) \equiv \delta(x' - x)\delta(y' - y)\delta(z' - z)##
Relevant Equations:: The Dirac delta function is defined indirectly as ##f(t) = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(t') \delta (t' - t) dt' ##
The divergence theorem for a vector function F is ##\oint_{S} F \cdot \hat n~dA = \int_V \nabla \cdot F~dV##

From part B, the argument in the integral on the right side must be zero except at r′=r, which makes both sides of the relation zero except at that point. I'm sure there's a way to relate that to a delta function somehow but I'm not sure what it is.
What does this tell you about how the integral depends on the volume V?
 
It will be beneficial for you to be able to decipher the symbols. It's really easy when you get used to the notation. You write
##\vec r=x~\hat x+y~\hat y+z~\hat z##
##\vec r'=x'~\hat x+y'~\hat y+z'~\hat z##
Then
##\vec r-\vec r'=(x-x')~\hat x+(y-y')~\hat y+(z-z')~\hat z##
the magnitude of the difference is the square root of the sum of the squares:
##|\vec r-\vec r'|=\left[(x-x')^2+(y-y')^2+(z-z')^2\right]^{1/2}##
The denominator is simply the magnitude cubed:
##|\vec r-\vec r'|^3=\left[(x-x')^2+(y-y')^2+(z-z')^2\right]^{3/2}.##
 
Orodruin said:
What does this tell you about how the integral depends on the volume V?
That the volume V is arbitrary, the only thing that matters is whether it contains the point r' = r, and so the result of the integral is really just the value of the function at the point r' = r? But that seems weird since it looks like that would set the left side of the equation to zero. Am I on the right track at all?
 
Blanchdog said:
That the volume V is arbitrary, the only thing that matters is whether it contains the point r' = r, and so the result of the integral is really just the value of the function at the point r' = r? But that seems weird since it looks like that would set the left side of the equation to zero. Am I on the right track at all?
Not really, no. You are assuming that the volume integrand is regular, but you know you are asked to show that it is proportional to a delta function.
 
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