Numb3rs: A Missed Opportunity for Mathematical Accuracy

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In summary, the show "Numb3rs" was a disappointment to many viewers due to the lack of accurate and relevant mathematics. The show attempted to incorporate math into a crime-solving premise, but failed to do so effectively. Many viewers were disappointed with the shallow use of equations and the lack of explanation for their meaning. The main character, supposedly a mathematician, appeared less frequently than his crime-solving brother and the portrayal of a physicist working on a "super-gravity theory" was met with skepticism. Despite hiring a real mathematician to create equations, it is likely that the set designers altered them for visual appeal. Overall, the show received mixed reviews and was seen as a missed opportunity to showcase the potential of math in solving crimes.
  • #71
Zorodius said:
You can, I guess, but it doesn't convey any accurate or meaningful information to do so.

My point exactly.
 
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  • #72
I'm working on an equation that shows how mentioning HUP to Franznietzche causes his BP to increase. I call it FIP,the Franznietzche Insanity Principle.
 
  • #73
tribdog said:
I'm working on an equation that shows how mentioning HUP to Franznietzche causes his BP to increase. I call it FIP,the Franznietzche Insanity Principle.

*Looks over tribdog's shoulder* Wait, that's an inverse proportion there...that variable for accuracy of HUP explanation is inversely related to Franz's BP. :biggrin:
 
  • #74
franznietzsche said:
My point exactly.

The viewers of Numb3rs aren't expected to pass as PhD's.
 
  • #75
Moonbear said:
*Looks over tribdog's shoulder* Wait, that's an inverse proportion there...that variable for accuracy of HUP explanation is inversely related to Franz's BP. :biggrin:
thanks hun, but what do I do about the calming influences of the ODEs and NLDEs? and look what happens when you throw in a bad analogy.
 
  • #76
tribdog said:
thanks hun, but what do I do about the calming influences of the ODEs and NLDEs? and look what happens when you throw in a bad analogy.

Not sure about the ODEs and NLDEs, but I think you need to integrate the analogy. It is the area under the curve that's important, right? How do we define the limits? There must be an upper bound that if exceeded, his head shoots off and explodes.
 
  • #77
Moonbear said:
Not sure about the ODEs and NLDEs, but I think you need to integrate the analogy. It is the area under the curve that's important, right? How do we define the limits? There must be an upper bound that if exceeded, his head shoots off and explodes.
I'd like to see that.
hmmmm
hey franz. isn't it true that the uncertainty principle proves that cats are never all the way dead, so it's illegal to bury them unless you cut two slits in the coffin?
 
  • #78
tribdog said:
I'd like to see that.
hmmmm
hey franz. isn't it true that the uncertainty principle proves that cats are never all the way dead, so it's illegal to bury them unless you cut two slits in the coffin?

I don't know, I thought our mangling of math would have had the desired effect. I guess we need to account for that inflection point in the equation. Once his head pops off, his BP will drop pretty quickly. :smile:
 
  • #79
all my attempt did was make his ears whistle anyway.
 
  • #80
tribdog said:
all my attempt did was make his ears whistle anyway.

*Writes in notebook: "Ears whistle."*

Hmm...very interesting phenomenon. Did you happen to record the frequency? Oh, nevermind, we'll just call it the FEWF constant (Franz's Ear Whistling Frequency)...give it a cool symbol, okay? I think that goes over there, and then take the square root.
 
  • #81
look how his eyes bulge when you put his fingers in his ears. Whoa, don't do that anymore. Phew, air finds a route out even if it needs to head south to do so. someone open a window.
 
  • #82
tribdog said:
look how his eyes bulge when you put his fingers in his ears. Whoa, don't do that anymore. Phew, air finds a route out even if it needs to head south to do so. someone open a window.

Okay, obviously taking the square root was wrong. Just every cool equation has a square root in it somewhere. Let's find something else to take the square root of. :-p
 
  • #83
maybe we need two square roots, that way the negative(southern) route becomes a positive. i's look pretty in the equations too.
 
  • #84
tribdog said:
maybe we need two square roots, that way the negative(southern) route becomes a positive. i's look pretty in the equations too.

Ooh, yes, I like the look of the i's. Now throw in a psi, a theta, a rho, and a few sigmas for good measure.

Wait! Stop! Don't write that one down, that'll give away next week's plot and completely ruin the show for Franz. :biggrin:
 
  • #85
I don't know how to draw a rho.
 
  • #86
tribdog said:
I don't know how to draw a rho.

It's the one that looks like a funny p. Oh, never mind, just draw an oar; we can rho with that.

Franz, are you catching all this? CBS hired us as script writers for next week and we want to have a realistic equation this time. :biggrin: :-p :smile:
 
  • #87
a squared plus b squared equals pi right?
 
  • #88
If I'm not sure how do draw a rho is it because of Heisenberg?
 
  • #89
tribdog said:
If I'm not sure how do draw a rho is it because of Heisenberg?

Yep, sounds like uncertainty to me. How about a rhino instead of a rho? That could make this really interesting. We need a twist in this plot somewhere. (Ba dum bum <<<<<groan>>>>>)
 
  • #90
I think the hardest thing about Mathmatical equations is making sure they rhyme.
 
  • #91
tribdog said:
I think the hardest thing about Mathmatical equations is making sure they rhyme.

That's why we needed rho, so we could sing the rhyme "Rho rho rho your boat..." :rolleyes: Damn, I hate the sound of crickets after I try to tell a joke.

Franz, I hope you appreciate all we're doing for you here, just to ensure your entertainment is fully educational next week. :biggrin:
 
  • #92
Icebreaker said:
The viewers of Numb3rs aren't expected to pass as PhD's.

They aren't even expected to pass kindergarten.


tribdog said:
I'd like to see that.
hmmmm
hey franz. isn't it true that the uncertainty principle proves that cats are never all the way dead, so it's illegal to bury them unless you cut two slits in the coffin?

I think it needs to be renamed "Schroedinger's tribdog" :-p


Moonbear said:
It's the one that looks like a funny p. Oh, never mind, just draw an oar; we can rho with that.

Franz, are you catching all this? CBS hired us as script writers for next week and we want to have a realistic equation this time.

This is what i get for actually going to class, quoting a beautiful mind the whole way there..."Classes will dull your mind and eliminate the potential for authentic creativitys, classes will dull your mind and..."

Moonbear said:
Yep, sounds like uncertainty to me. How about a rhino instead of a rho? That could make this really interesting. We need a twist in this plot somewhere. (Ba dum bum <<<<<groan>>>>>)

*GROAN*

Not funny.

tribdog said:
I think the hardest thing about Mathmatical equations is making sure they rhyme.

Ok, it started out funny, but no. Just no.
 
  • #93
Moonbear said:
That's why we needed rho, so we could sing the rhyme "Rho rho rho your boat..." :rolleyes: Damn, I hate the sound of crickets after I try to tell a joke.

Franz, I hope you appreciate all we're doing for you here, just to ensure your entertainment is fully educational next week. :biggrin:


Make an "H-bar" and grill joke and you'll be set. (its our physics department student lounge).

Throw in some knot theory too.
 
  • #94
franznietzsche said:
Ok, it started out funny, but no. Just no.

It was rho that messed it up, wasn't it? If tribdog hadn't exploded his eraser with liquid nitrogen, we could have just erased that. We're just trying to give the show the serious consideration it deserves. :smile:
 
  • #95
franznietzsche said:
Make an "H-bar" and grill joke and you'll be set. (its our physics department student lounge).

Kewl! :cool:

Throw in some knot theory too.

Great idea! Can we use colored strings to make the knots? That will make some good special effects amidst all those flying sigmas. :biggrin:
 
  • #96
Yeah from the two squares roots part it just went downhill.
 
  • #97
Moonbear said:
Kewl! :cool:



Great idea! Can we use colored strings to make the knots? That will make some good special effects amidst all those flying sigmas. :biggrin:


Sure. That'll do.
 
  • #98
franznietzsche said:
Yeah from the two squares roots part it just went downhill.
maybe we need three of them?
 
  • #99
tribdog said:
maybe we need three of them?

. . . N o . . .
 
  • #100
franznietzsche said:
Yeah from the two squares roots part it just went downhill.

Oh, I think to go downhill we need a higher order function. Maybe we need to add some braids between the knots.
 
  • #101
I tried to figure out the square root of 2, but I rounded it off. now I don't know what to call it.
 
  • #102
Moonbear said:
Oh, I think to go downhill we need a higher order function. Maybe we need to add some braids between the knots.

I'm going to cry.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
 
  • #103
franznietzsche said:
I'm going to cry.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Yeah, laughing too hard can bring tears to your eyes, can't it? :smile: :smile: :cry: :smile: :cry: :smile:

But, what if this is really what goes on in the room with the show's writers? :bugeye:
 
  • #104
Moonbear said:
Yeah, laughing too hard can bring tears to your eyes, can't it? :smile: :smile: :cry: :smile: :cry: :smile:

But, what if this is really what goes on in the room with the show's writers? :bugeye:


Laughter had about as much to do with it as...as...laughter has to do with falls from ten story buidlings.
 
  • #105
franznietzsche said:
Laughter had about as much to do with it as...as...laughter has to do with falls from ten story buidlings.

Woo hoo! Base jumping! Can we do it in base 13 instead of base 10 though? I hear that's more fun. :biggrin:
 

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