Projectile Motion man tosses object

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A man tosses an object with an initial velocity of 20 m/s from a height of 2.0 m into a room 10.0 m above the ground, with a horizontal distance of 31.8 m. To find the angle of projection, the problem involves breaking down the initial velocity into horizontal and vertical components. The vertical displacement is 8.0 m, and the horizontal and vertical motions can be linked through time. The discussion highlights the challenge of manipulating the equations to isolate the angle, suggesting the use of trigonometric identities and kinematic equations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of maintaining clarity in reasoning and considering all available information to solve the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement



A man tosses object with initial velocity of 20 m/s into a room, and is 2.0 m above the ground. The room is 10.0 m above the ground.

In a provided diagram, the distance from man to room horizontally is 31.8 m.

I am required to solve for the angle of the object as it leaves the mans hand.

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The Attempt at a Solution



vix= 20cosθ
viy= 20sinθ

To solve for θ, I must use the initial velocity given, broken up into components.

Since I am given the vertical displacement (8.0 m) and horizontal displacement (31.8 m) , I can use 2 formulas and substitute one into the other, by isolating t as it is common to both.

dx= vixt
31.8 = 20cosθt
t= 31.8 / 20cosθ

dy= viyt + 0.5ayt2
8.0 = 20sinθt - 4.9t2
8.0 = 20sinθ(31.8 / 20cosθ) - 4.9(31.8 / 20cosθ)2
8.0 = (31.8sinθ / cosθ) - 4.9(2.5281 / cos2θ)
8.0 = (31.8sinθ / cosθ) - (12.39 / cos2θ)

and now I'm stuck... I tried moving to one side and changing to common denominator...

8.0 = (31.8sinθ / cosθ) - (12.39 / cos2θ)

0 = (31.8sinθ / cosθ) - (12.39 / cos2θ) - 8.0

0 = (31.8sinθcosθ - 12.39 - 8.0cos2θ) / cos2θ

0 = 31.8sinθcosθ - 12.39 - 8.0cos2θ

0 = 15.9sin2θ - 12.39 - 8.0(1 - sin2θ)

0 = 15.9sin2θ - 12.39 - 8.0 + 8sin2θ

0 = 8sin2θ + 15.9sin2θ - 20.39

but no luck...

i thought it looked like a quadratic at first, but I don't think it works with sin2θ

any suggestions? thank you :)
 
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Since I am given the vertical displacement (8.0 m) and horizontal displacement (31.8 m) , I can use 2 formulas and substitute one into the other, by isolating t as it is common to both.
... so you have interpreted the question as asking about the direction of the initial velocity vector, given the ball passes through points A and B (going from A to B) and you know the speed at A.

i thought it looked like a quadratic at first, but I don't think it works with sin2θ
... trig identities not helping you - you may be able to do it geometrically seeing ##2\sin^2\theta = 1-\cos2\theta## ... or is there another kinematic equation you haven't considered yet - that may be called into play?
i.e. have you used all the information at your disposal yet?


Notes:
do not put the numbers in until the end or you'll get turned around.
keep track of your reasoning all the way through.
 
Hmmm ... perhaps:
... go back to where it looks like you almost have a quadratic in ##\cos\theta##,
0 = 31.8sinθcosθ - 12.39 - 8.0cos2θ
... multiply through by ##\sec^2\theta## ... from there, Pythagoras should get you a quadratic in ##\tan\theta##.
 
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Mhm. Didnt even notice that it could be changed to secant. Thankyou
 
No worries.
The tan vs sec identities crop up a lot - especially in exams.
 
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