Random Thoughts Part 5: Time to Split Again

In summary, the conversation revolved around various topics such as dreams, different numbering systems, and education in different countries. The participants shared personal experiences, opinions, and debated about the merits of different theories. The conversation also included a discussion about a book and a recipe.
  • #841
1oldman2 said:
Seems it was possible that while buying a piglet (packaged in a bag of course) at ye old village market it was a scam to substitute a cat for the piglet. at least that's one of many explanations I came across while researching my post
One Snopes author is highly skeptical this could ever have worked:
http://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/catbag.asp

However, to become a famous scam, it really only needed to have been tried.

I also question the Snope's author's assumption that the "pig" must have been sold live. If the vendor's cry was, "Pigs in a poke! Slaughtered just this morning!" then it would be much harder to tell you had a cat in a bag.
 
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  • #842
Big thing in fashion recently is having a tear in the jeans/pants. Which makes it seem that survival is not too high of a priority, or people wearing the fashion are not too sharp. When you are more worried about looking fashionable than about having a wave of freezing wind hitting your legs, it seems surviving and adapting to the environment is not the top priority. Similar with the fashion of wearing sweats in Winter, which fail to protect against cold weather.
 
  • #843
zoobyshoe said:
One Snopes author is highly skeptical this could ever have worked:
http://www.snopes.com/language/phrases/catbag.asp
I have found a rabbit to be sold. Its substitution with a cat makes much more sense by weight and activity.
 
  • #844
WWGD said:
Big thing in fashion recently is having a tear in the jeans/pants ...
Early 90's ...
 
  • #845
fresh_42 said:
Early 90's ...
Seems like people have run of ideas: movie remakes, fashion remakes.
 
  • #846
Sophia said:
haha, she's a smart girl! You'd better come up with a more reasonable explanation. Maybe you are doing a research on entropy and you're trying to create one spot of order in a large area of chaos. Than show her one of your thick Physics textbooks to leave her speechless. That could work for a while...
Hihi, that could work.
 
  • #847
fresh_42 said:
Early 90's ...
1960's
 
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  • #848
I have ended up recently watching a lot of TV on murders, torture, betrayal, etc. But done n a very entertaining way, as sick as that may sound. Welcome to channels 130-140.
 
  • #849
WWGD said:
I have ended up recently watching a lot of TV on murders, torture, betrayal, etc. But done n a very entertaining way, as sick as that may sound. Welcome to channels 130-140.
No, not betrayal! Why does this always have to happen? I must become Captain Anti-Betrayal to help people. I need a logo for my dress.
 
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  • #850
WWGD said:
I have ended up recently watching a lot of TV on murders, torture, betrayal, etc. But done n a very entertaining way, as sick as that may sound. Welcome to channels 130-140.
I watch such programmes as well. like investigation discovery. I know it's perverse, but they make me fall asleep.
I wonder why I don't feel anything even when I know it's based on true story. The same thing when watching the news. If many people have died, I feel no sympathy.
But some 2 months ago I saw a dead man in the street, he got heart attack and he was already in plastic bag and that made me really sick.
 
  • #851
Sophia said:
... he got heart attack and he was already in plastic bag and that made me really sick.
You mean he was being zipped up in a body bag when you arrived at the scene or you saw the dead man in a plastic bag left on the sidewalk in the street ?
I used to witness a case similar to the latter many years ago in my area. Someone killed and sawed a girl's body into parts, put them in a plastic bag then threw it in a bush.
 
  • #852
Silicon Waffle said:
You mean he was being zipped up in a body bag when you arrived at the scene or you saw the dead man in a plastic bag left on the sidewalk in the street ?
I used to witness a case similar to the latter many years ago in my area. Someone killed and sawed a girl's body into parts, put them in a plastic bag then threw it in a bush.
Oh that's terrible! Some people are really psycho. And they often look totally normal. They could be your neighbours or coworkers and you couldn't tell. That's scary.
This man was dead after paramedics did CPR for quite a long time. Finally they saw he couldn't be saved so they put him in a bag and waited for the police to confirm death. I was only passing by and saw the bag with the body and ambulance. It was near our shop and my dad saw it all so he told me what happened.
Silicon Waffle said:
You mean he was being zipped up in a body bag when you arrived at the scene or you saw the dead man in a plastic bag left on the sidewalk in the street ?
I used to witness a case similar to the latter many years ago in my area. Someone killed and sawed a girl's body into parts, put them in a plastic bag then threw it in a bush.
 
  • #853
Sophia said:
Oh that's terrible! Some people are really psycho. And they often look totally normal. They could be your neighbours or coworkers and you couldn't tell. That's scary.
.
EDIT But it is worse, it is almost never the guy who overtly actually looks or acts weird.
 
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  • #854
WWGD said:
EDIT But it is worse, it is almost never the guy who overtly actually looks or acts weird.
Oh I look quite weird with my clothes, don't worry about that. At least if you compare me with others around :biggrin:. Sometimes I dress like this:
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And sometimes I dress like this:
http://ebay.to/1SBz6ft
s-l1000.jpg

Which one shall I use for the weather when I visit you WWGD? You said something about a freezing wind... I guess the second one is okay... :-p
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178px-Stalin_1902.jpg
Source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stalin_1902.jpg

This is Stalin. Why those considered villains by the masses look so damn handsome?! It confuses me :confused: because I am told they are bad, but this isn't the face of a bad person (I think, I don't know). Aren't you confused too? Because in my mind it is not expected for a villain to be handsome. And when it happens it confuses me because I think they are good guys, but they are not! (according to the masses) :confused:
 
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  • #855
Yes, someone used to say that Charles Manson at least had the decency to look insane first time you saw him.
 
  • #856
Psinter said:
Oh I look quite weird with my clothes, don't worry about that. At least if you compare me with others around :biggrin:. Sometimes I dress like this:
x354-q80.jpg
And sometimes I dress like this:
http://ebay.to/1SBz6ft
s-l1000.jpg

Which one shall I use for the weather when I visit you WWGD? You said something about a freezing wind... I guess the second one is okay... :-p
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178px-Stalin_1902.jpg
Source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stalin_1902.jpg

This is Stalin. Why those considered villains by the masses look so damn handsome?! It confuses me :confused: because I am told they are bad, but this isn't the face of a bad person (I think, I don't know). Aren't you confused too? Because in my mind it is not expected for a villain to be handsome. And when it happens it confuses me because I think they are good guys, but they are not! (according to the masses) :confused:

Yes, I remember someone saying that at least Charles Manson had the decency to appear insane at first sight.
 
  • #857
WWGD said:
Yes, I remember someone saying that at least Charles Manson had the decency to appear insane at first sight.
I had to google who he was.
 
  • #858
WWGD said:
I am not sure of what you are looking for, but most elementary books contain proofs, and contain theorems. Look for some theorem that interests you, try to prove it and if you're stuck, just post it here and we'll gladly help.
Oh thanks! Listen: I'm especially interested in the question: Given ##ζ_K(s) = 0## where ##s∈ℂ: 0<Re(s)<1##.
I know that ##Re(s)## has to be 0.5 but I have difficulties to prove it. Can you help? :smile:
 
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  • #859
Psinter said:
This is Stalin. Why those considered villains by the masses look so damn handsome?! It confuses me :confused: because I am told they are bad, but this isn't the face of a bad person (I think, I don't know). Aren't you confused too? Because in my mind it is not expected for a villain to be handsome. And when it happens it confuses me because I think they are good guys, but they are not! (according to the masses) :confused:

Well, you can't judge people according to their looks. I had a classmate at HS and he could be so charming and sweet and handsome but I would say he was a hidden psychopath.
It's very difficult to get to know them. Recently I watched an interview with a doctor who specialises in psychopaths and he said that in some cases he needs up to 6 months of careful observation before he can say if a person has such tendencies or not.
They are usually highly intelligent and learn to act according to social expectations. They are very good at pretending emotions, mirroring non-verbal expressions of other people without actually feeling anything. And they are great at manipulation.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/wicked-deeds/201401/how-tell-sociopath-psychopath
 
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  • #860
There are fast food places where you can refill your drinks as often as you want. These places offer drinks in small, medium large. What's the point? Get a small drink and refill it however many times you wish.
 
  • #861
fresh_42 said:
Oh thanks! Listen: I'm especially interested in the question: Given ##ζ_K(s) = 0## where ##s∈ℂ: 0<Re(s)<1##.
I know that ##Re(s)## has to be 0.5 but I have difficulties to prove it. Can you help? :smile:
There was mention here in PF of an exam where students where asked to prove something equivalent to it Of course it was not intentional, but it would have been pretty amazing if someone actually had proved it.
 
  • #862
Chrome has stopped working for some reason, won't load up , all of the sudden. I am back to the third world of web surfing, back with explorer.
 
  • #863
I am using chrome at a normal end-user and it works fine for me, :biggrin: I don't know how well it may go with expert settings for testing purposes.
 
  • #864
Sophia said:
Well, you can't judge people according to their looks.
But people judge me according to my looks. Remember the nurse? She was all friendly with me because I was well dressed and looked like a model. And I've noticed that since I started dressing well people are more friendly with me despite me being all poor and stuff. I don't become friends with any of them because I think: "Yeah, now that I look good you are friendly with me, but when I looked like your ordinary poor person you ignored me. Well, I'm still poor so scram!"
WWGD said:
Chrome has stopped working for some reason, won't load up , all of the sudden. I am back to the third world of web surfing, back with explorer.
You will have to "explore" yourself into modern web surfing... Yeah that was lame. I'm somehow losing my touch. I need to refuel.
 
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  • #865
Psinter said:
This is Stalin. Why those considered villains by the masses look so damn handsome?! It confuses me :confused: because I am told they are bad, but this isn't the face of a bad person (I think, I don't know). Aren't you confused too? Because in my mind it is not expected for a villain to be handsome. And when it happens it confuses me because I think they are good guys, but they are not! (according to the masses) :confused:
Sophia is right. I guess you're unfamiliar with the concept of a psychopath or sociopath. Here's a site with a bundle of info about it:
http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

The main thing that makes someone a sociopath is a lack of conscience; no sense of guilt or remorse when hurting other people. They have no inner 'compass' telling them it's wrong to deceive, so they deceive with pleasure. As a result, they often seem very charming and likable. There was a famous serial killer in the US named Ted Bundy, who was considered handsome and had no problems tricking women into his car pretty quickly.

Stalin was certainly one of the most successful and destructive sociopaths in history. The strange thing is, he was so successful, that even today, some Russians regard him as having been a great leader, despite the number of innocent soviets he killed or sent to the gulags.
 
  • #866
WWGD said:
There are fast food places where you can refill your drinks as often as you want. These places offer drinks in small, medium large. What's the point? Get a small drink and refill it however many times you wish.
If you're eating there. Small, medium, large become a concern when it's to go.
 
  • #867
zoobyshoe said:
If you're eating there. Small, medium, large become a concern when it's to go.
Yes, but they also offer different sizes to those who stay ( or maybe just to me )
 
  • #868
Psinter said:
But people judge me according to my looks. Remember the nurse? She was all friendly with me because I was well dressed and looked like a model. And I've noticed that since I started dressing well people are more friendly with me despite me being all poor and stuff. I don't become friends with any of them because I think: "Yeah, now that I look good you are friendly with me, but when I looked like your ordinary poor person you ignored me. Well, I'm still poor so scram!"
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It is a sad reality in many places.
 
  • #869
zoobyshoe said:
The main thing that makes someone a sociopath is a lack of conscience; no sense of guilt or remorse when hurting other people.
o_O I think you mixed them. From the article Sophie linked it says it is the psychopath the one that is like that. But your article says it is the sociopath the one that is like that. I'm confused now. :confused:
zoobyshoe said:
I guess you're unfamiliar with the concept of a psychopath or sociopath.
I was somewhat familiar.
zoobyshoe said:
Stalin was certainly one of the most successful and destructive sociopaths in history. The strange thing is, he was so successful, that even today, some Russians regard him as having been a great leader, despite the number of innocent soviets he killed or sent to the gulags.
So much handsomeness gone to waste. :frown:
 
  • #870
WWGD said:
There was mention here in PF of an exam where students where asked to prove something equivalent to it Of course it was not intentional, but it would have been pretty amazing if someone actually had proved it.
Amazing? It would be a sensation. However, I have the strong feeling that a potential proof cannot be written down in common syntax within the given amount of time and space. First things that come to my mind are abc and FLT. And I doubt that even Perelman is an easy lecture. The good thing about ERH is that it involves ζ for otherwise the universities in this world would be flooded with claims of proofs by 3-splitters.
 
  • #871
zoobyshoe said:
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Stalin was certainly one of the most successful and destructive sociopaths in history. The strange thing is, he was so successful, that even today, some Russians regard him as having been a great leader, despite the number of innocent soviets he killed or sent to the gulags.

I understand Attila is considered a hero by many Hungarians, some are even named after him. You know: he is one of us, he cannot be that bad.
 
  • #872
Psinter said:
But people judge me according to my looks. Remember the nurse? She was all friendly with me because I was well dressed and looked like a model. And I've noticed that since I started dressing well people are more friendly with me despite me being all poor and stuff. I don't become friends with any of them because I think: "Yeah, now that I look good you are friendly with me, but when I looked like your ordinary poor person you ignored me. Well, I'm still poor so scram!"
For some reason a lot of women (but fewer men) are preoccupied with personal presentation. It's not about having money, but about having a sense of style regardless of your budget. If a guy seems to have a sense of style, a lot of women will respond well to him due to feeling he shares that with them. It's not that they are judging you to be a good person, rather, it's a positive response to an apparent shared esthetic.
Psinter said:
o_O I think you mixed them. From the article Sophie linked it says it is the psychopath the one that is like that. But your article says it is the sociopath the one that is like that. I'm confused now. :confused:
The terms "psychopath" and "sociopath" are not well distinguished from each other in a lot of the literature, mainly due to differences in British and American usage, I believe.
 
  • #873
WWGD said:
I understand Attila is considered a hero by many Hungarians, some even have it as a first name.
Same with Ghengis Kahn. He was an astonishingly prolific mass murderer, but just about everything in modern Mongolia is named after him. Same with Vlad the Impaler in Romania: cultural hero for having fought off the Turk invaders despite the number of his own people he impaled on stakes.
 
  • #874
zoobyshoe said:
For some reason a lot of women (but fewer men) are preoccupied with personal presentation. It's not about having money, but about having a sense of style regardless of your budget. If a guy seems to have a sense of style, a lot of women will respond well to him due to feeling he shares that with them. It's not that they are judging you to be a good person, rather, it's a positive response to an apparent shared esthetic.

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I think you're right, there is something to it. A change of clothes may also be seen as a change in outlook, maybe as an increased willingness o put yourself out there.
 
  • #875
WWGD said:
It is a sad reality in many places.
Yeah. I don't like to deceive others so I'm always fully honest straight out of the bat. They tell me I look good and I tell them that the clothes are cheap. Except with the nurse because my mouth was open, I couldn't tell her anything. As long as she doesn't kiss me when I'm asleep we are good. There was once a doctor who was accused of kissing females patients while they were asleep with anesthesia. A lot of men began joking and saying: "My wife hasn't kissed me in so long, I'm going to visit that doctor dressed as a female to get my kiss." :DD
zoobyshoe said:
For some reason a lot of women (but fewer men) are preoccupied with personal presentation. It's not about having money, but about having a sense of style regardless of your budget.
Exactly! My point exactly! I'm worried about my style.
zoobyshoe said:
If a guy seems to have a sense of style, a lot of women will respond well to him due to feeling he shares that with them. It's not that they are judging you to be a good person, rather, it's a positive response to an apparent shared esthetic.
Oh... I never saw it that way. It is an excellent point of view. Thanks for sharing it with me. :smile:
 

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