Random Thoughts Part 5: Time to Split Again

In summary, the conversation revolved around various topics such as dreams, different numbering systems, and education in different countries. The participants shared personal experiences, opinions, and debated about the merits of different theories. The conversation also included a discussion about a book and a recipe.
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Talking about "subconscious", could someone offer me some examples to clarify what "to reignite something at one's subconscious level" means ? Why is it subconscious not conscious though ?
 
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  • #947
Silicon Waffle said:
Talking about "subconscious", could someone offer me some examples to clarify what "to reignite something at one's subconscious level" means ? Why is it subconscious not conscious though ?
Subconscious, bottom-up, automatic mind is a leftover of primal behavior , often related to the ability to survive. Conscious, top-down mental level is more deliberate and thoughtful, more recent evolution-wise. But I don't know if this gives an answer to your question. Examples of subconscious mind: breathing, digesting, the management of bodily functions. Top-down: reflection, thoughtfulness.
 
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  • #948
Chrome is partially back. Welcome (partially) back, Chrome.
 
  • #949
Silicon Waffle said:
Talking about "subconscious", could someone offer me some examples to clarify what "to reignite something at one's subconscious level" means ? Why is it subconscious not conscious though ?
IOW , there are triggers to your behavior that you (meaning people in general) may not be aware of, but someone else may notice. This may happen with advertisers, marketers, politicians, people in general.
 
  • #950
Silicon Waffle said:
Talking about "subconscious", could someone offer me some examples to clarify what "to reignite something at one's subconscious level" means ? Why is it subconscious not conscious though ?
We would need to see the original text to see the context.
Subconscious usually refers to things that Freud wrote about.
To reignite means to catch fire again. So I understand that something causes certain emotions or reactions in you, but you don't know why you feel or act in such a way.
For example, if you see a stranger who looks similar to someone you know, you may subconsciously expect him to have the same characteristics as the person he resembles. Eg you hate someone and than see someone who looks similar than you may be less likely to be kind to him.
Or you have a very pleasant memories connected to a certain song and when you hear it again in a different situation, those pleasant feelings may emerge.
But I'm not sure if this is a correct explanation, as that phrase could mean anything depending on context.
 
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  • #951
Sophia said:
as that phrase could mean anything depending on context.
There is nothing like bad syntax to mess up good context.
 
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  • #952
Silicon Waffle said:
Talking about "subconscious", could someone offer me some examples to clarify what "to reignite something at one's subconscious level" means ? Why is it subconscious not conscious though ?
Reflexes reignite (or trigger) your body movements at a subconscious level. When you get hit many times you sort of develop this sense of 'something is coming' and you move sort of unconsciously. Not completely unconsciously, but somewhat.

This is very true and it happens to a lot of people. When I trained, a friend was once bugging me and asking me to fight him to which I kept telling him no. I was looking at my notebook when he threw a punch at me which got blocked without me being conscious that he was directing his fist at my face. I did not even realize what I did until he said: "Whoa! You just stopped my fist without looking!" To which I replied: "I don't know, it's probably reflexes."

But then it was worse, because he was so impressed that he bugged me even more to fight him (-.-). I cannot be sure, but I think he wasn't going to hit me anyway, I don't think he had the intent to harm me, but I still responded without being conscious of it. It happens often with people directing things at my head or face.

At other times, at night when there are lot's of insects flying, some of the insects who fly do it very fast. Sometimes they create a shadow that triggers my fighting stance and I dodge something that isn't even going to hit me (because it's just a shadow). But their fast moving shadows trigger that response from me. I can't help it. Then I'm like: "I hope no one saw me, I probably look really stupid dodging a shadow that probably only I saw because of my position."

So there you have it: Reflexes for protection. Somewhat subconsciously. It's not conscious because you are not fully aware of it happening. You just do it.
 
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  • #953
Sophia said:
We would need to see the original text to see the context.
Subconscious usually refers to things that Freud wrote about.
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True, but it has recently been studied scientifically, using, e.g., recent research on the brain. There is a nice book out by L. Mlodinow , titled precisely " Subconscious"
 
  • #954
WWGD said:
True, but it has recently been studied scientifically, using, e.g., recent research on the brain. There is a nice book out by L. Mlodinow , titled precisely " Subconscious"

Thanks, will add it to my wishlist :)
 
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  • #955
Sophia said:
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To reignite means to catch fire again. So I understand that something causes certain emotions or reactions in you, but you don't know why you feel or act in such a way...
I heard it on a TV documentary show. :DD
 
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  • #957
Psinter said:
I am waiting for another @zoobyshoe story. :nb) :biggrin:
I also find he has not been so active as he used to during these days. Maybe he is celebrating Lunar New Year with his family (I still prefer Lunar to Chinese but the latter seems to be more commonly used even to Northern American people, which is really a sad thing to me o0))
 
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  • #958
Silicon Waffle said:
I also find he has not been so active as he used to during these days. Maybe he is celebrating Lunar New Year with his family (I still prefer Lunar to Chinese but the latter seems to be more commonly used even to Northern American people, which is really a sad thing to me o0))
From now on, I will only use the term Lunar. It never came to my mind that other Asian nations celebrate it too (like, I knew it but never thought about it much o_O) so calling it only Chinese is insufficient :)
 
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  • #960
zoobyyyyyyyyyyy! Hi. :biggrin:

Silicon Waffle said:
Maybe he is celebrating Lunar New Year with his family (I still prefer Lunar to Chinese but the latter seems to be more commonly used even to Northern American people, which is really a sad thing to me o0))
Oh, Lunar. I wasn't aware of that name. I've always wanted to play this game: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahjong#Old_Hong_Kong_mahjong

800px-Lanzhou-019.JPG

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  • #961
Me too, it looks funny. I'd like to learn how to play it. :biggrin:
 
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  • #962
Psinter said:
zoobyyyyyyyyyyy! Hi.
Hello. I am preoccupied trying to organize things a bit better in real life here. I've been reading posts, though.
 
  • #963
zoobyshoe said:
Hello. I am preoccupied trying to organize things a bit better in real life here. I've been reading posts, though.
Hihi. It's okay. :smile:
 
  • #965
Was walking with my dog and thinking about lunar/solar/other holidays. And I remembered that actually we have a holiday connected to the lunar calendar this week as well. It's tomorrow and is called Ash Wednesday https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Wednesday
It's 40 days before Easter which is first Sunday after full moon after spring equinox. Sounds kinda complicated if put like this :D

i-dont-always-give-up-things-for-lent-but-when-i-do-itll-probabl.jpg
 
  • #966
WWGD said:
IOW , there are triggers to your behavior that you (meaning people in general) may not be aware of, but someone else may notice. This may happen with advertisers, marketers, politicians, people in general.
Every single supermarket is arranged that way.
 
  • #967
Sophia said:
Was walking with my dog and thinking about lunar/solar/other holidays. And I remembered that actually we have a holiday connected to the lunar calendar this week as well. It's tomorrow and is called Ash Wednesday https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Wednesday
It's 40 days before Easter which is first Sunday after full moon after spring equinox. Sounds kinda complicated if put like this :D
How surprising for me to learn that Slovakian people also use the Lunar one!
Awesome!
i-dont-always-give-up-things-for-lent-but-when-i-do-itll-probabl.jpg

:biggrin: I see. It is just extraordinarily normal.
 
  • #968
Silicon Waffle said:
How surprising for me to learn that Slovakian people also use the Lunar one!
Awesome!

:biggrin: I see. It is just extraordinarily normal.

Actually, this is almost universal Christian tradition. It has roots in Jewish customs.
 
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  • #969
Sophia said:
Actually, this is almost universal Christian tradition. It has roots in Jewish customs.
Not to forget the big party to the december solstice all of us celtic, germanic and slavic tribes used to celebrate for centuries!
 
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  • #970
Silicon Waffle said:
(I still prefer Lunar to Chinese but the latter seems to be more commonly used even to Northern American people, which is really a sad thing to me o0))
For what it's worth, I know many people from all over Asia: Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, etc. (and of course, China too). And they all call it "Chinese New Year." So I don't think it's a big deal (even among peoples of non-Chinese, Asian countries who celebrate the holiday).
 
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Sophia said:
Was walking with my dog and thinking about lunar/solar/other holidays. And I remembered that actually we have a holiday connected to the lunar calendar this week as well. It's tomorrow and is called Ash Wednesday https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_Wednesday
It's 40 days before Easter which is first Sunday after full moon after spring equinox. Sounds kinda complicated if put like this :D
And don't forget Mardi Gras/Carnival, by extension. That's today, by the way. Happy Mardi Gras! :partytime:
 
  • #972
collinsmark said:
And don't forget Mardi Gras/Carnival, by extension. That's today, by the way. Happy Mardi Gras! :partytime:
:partytime::DD
 
  • #973
Silicon Waffle said:
I also find he has not been so active as he used to during these days. Maybe he is celebrating Lunar New Year with his family (I still prefer Lunar to Chinese but the latter seems to be more commonly used even to Northern American people, which is really a sad thing to me o0))
? Chinese calendar is a Lunar calendar. New year starts at the first new moon after something , not sure what.
 
  • #974
WWGD said:
? Chinese calendar is a Lunar calendar. New year starts at the first new moon after something , not sure what.
2nd new moon after December solstice!
 
  • #975
Australia trying to impose additional taxes on fresh fruit & vegetables.. on top of existing GST.. Greatttt
 
  • #976
collinsmark said:
And don't forget Mardi Gras/Carnival, by extension. That's today, by the way. Happy Mardi Gras! :partytime:
This reminds me of the great triple conjunction of 2008

Happy Super Fat Tuesday

It appears we didn't mention that it was also Chinese New Year. A quadruple conjunction!

hmmm...

2008
Feb 5 Super Tuesday (Special presidential election day in the USA. Being political, there's no rational logic behind the date. :biggrin:)
Feb 5 Fat Tuesday (Mardi Gras)
Feb 3 Super Bowl Sunday (Special sporting event in the USA. Currently held on 1st Sunday of February)
Feb 7 Chinese New Year (Year of the Rat)

2012
Mar _6 Super Tuesday
Feb 21 Fat Tuesday
Feb _5 Super Bowl Sunday
Jan 23 Chinese New Year (Year of the Dragon)

2016
Mar 1 Super Tuesday
Feb 9 Fat Tuesday
Feb 7 Super Bowl Sunday
Feb 8 Chinese New Year (Year of the Monkey)
 
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  • #977
fresh_42 said:
2nd new moon after December solstice!
Is there some special meaning attached to this second new moon?
 
  • #978
WWGD said:
For some strange reason, I have been misspelling words I had never misspelled, like fare instead of fair, etc
A sign of getting old WWGD, I have also started spelling phonetically and I used to win spelling bees.
 
  • #979
Evo said:
A sign of getting old WWGD, I have also started spelling phonetically and I used to win spelling bees.
I don't know, I just started a new job and have a business on the side, together with full time school. That may be a better explanation: I am exhausted.
 
  • #980
WWGD said:
I don't know, I just started a new job and have a business on the side, together with full time school. That may be a better explanation: I am exhausted.
Denial, the first sign of old age...
 
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