Rod Pendulum: Calculate Length (g=9.8 m/s2)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the length of a rod acting as a physical pendulum, given its period of 2.24 seconds and gravitational acceleration of 9.8 m/s². Initial attempts to solve the problem using the formula T = 2π * sqrt(L/g) led to confusion regarding the correct interpretation of the length in relation to the center of mass. Participants clarified that the length should account for the moment of inertia and torque, leading to the correct formula T = 2π * sqrt(2L/3g). After applying this revised formula, the correct length was successfully determined, resolving the initial errors. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding physical principles in pendulum calculations.
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Homework Statement


A rod suspended on its end and acting as a physical pendulum swings with a period of 2.24 s. What is its length? (g = 9.80 m/s2)

Homework Equations


T=2(pi) * (sqrt)(L/G)

The Attempt at a Solution


Okay, so I'm given the period, which is 2.24 seconds.

I'm also given G, as it's 9.8.

I plug in the values and the resulting equation is what I get:

2.24=2pi * (sqrt)(L/9.8)

I divide 2.24 by 2pi, which leaves me with this:

.356507=(sqrt)(L/9.8)

I square both sides and get:

.127097=L/9.8

Multiply 9.8 * .127097 should give me L.

I get L=1.24555. I put it into my online homework assignment, and it's wrong.

What am I doing incorrectly?
 
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Mr. Goosemahn said:
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im getting the same as you :(
are you sure those are the correct numbers?
 
A_Munk3y said:
im getting the same as you :(
are you sure those are the correct numbers?

Yup, I copy pasted the problem right out of the assignment.
 
Here the length of the physical pendulum is the distance of center of mass from the point of suspension.
 
rl.bhat said:
Here the length of the physical pendulum is the distance of center of mass from the point of suspension.

Don't I need the mass (or masses) to calculate the center of mass for an object?
 
No. In this case center of mass is the center of gravity. It is the mid point of the rod.
 
rl.bhat said:
No. In this case center of mass is the center of gravity. It is the mid point of the rod.

I don't know if I understood this right, but the L in the equation must then be doubled?

So...

2.24=2pi * (sqrt)(2L/9.8)

?
 
No. Length should be L/2.
 
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It still doesn't work.

I plugged in (L/2) for the L, so the equation looks like this:

2.24 = 2pi * (sqrt)((L/2)/9.8)

Solving for L:

2.24/(2pi) = (sqrt)((L/2)/9.8) ----> 0.356507 = (sqrt)((L/2)/9.8)

(0.356507)^2 = ((sqrt)((L/2)/9.8))^2 -----> 0.127097 = (L/2)/9.8

L/2 = (0.127097)*9.8 -----> L/2 = 1.24555

L = 1.24555 * 2 -----> L = 2.49111

This value is also incorrect. Where am I making a mistake?
 
  • #11
In the physical pendulum, You have to take into account the moment of inertia and torque.
The formula for period of oscillation is given by
T = 2π*sqrt(I/τ), where I = 1/3*M*L^2 and τ = M*g*L/2
So T = 2π*sqrt(2L/3g)
Now solve for L.
 
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rl.bhat said:
In the physical pendulum, You have to take into account the moment of inertia and torque.
The formula for period of oscillation is given by
T = 2π*sqrt(I/τ), where I = 1/3*M*L^2 and τ = M*g*L/2
So T = 2π*sqrt(2L/3g)
Now solve for L.

It worked, finally! Thanks for the help, it was really useful!
 

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