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oh i remember. i was referring you to some web based notes by other people on linear algebra. ill look them up. or just search on google for linear algebra notes, books.
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mathwonk said:learn it as soon as possibvle, from any source that helps. learn it in asmany ways as one can. better not to wait until reals as then it si very hard and coupled with very hard topics too.
i started elarning it ni high school, from the book principels of mathematics, by allendoerfer and oakley. i also took euclidean geomnetry, whose absence is one of the main reasons proofs are no longer understood by todays students.
i.e. removing geometry proofs and inserting AP calculua is a prime culprit for our current demise as a math nation.
dontbesilly said:That was not true for me. I took it back in 2003/2004 and we proved everything we did, all the time. Most of our work infact involved proofs, or constructions if I recall correctly.
mathwonk said:to get into a phd program, you have to pass 2 hurdles: 1) admission to the university grad school and 2) admission to the departmental program.
math departments are not at so bureaucratic, but university grad schools are. they will require various degrees and certifications for admissions.
moreover, i have learned by experience that those requirements are there for a reason, i.e. people without them are almost always lacking some quality that would help insure success. [i once went to bat for someone without paper quals, who afterwards was indeed not well qualified for our program.]
however if you are that rare bird, a truly exceptional mathematics talent, who knows all they need to, and can do the work, then you might get in without a degree.
mathwonk said:jasonrox: i tried to make it clear that a math dept may be interested in very talented person, degree or not, but a grad school will not want to accept that person, and with good reason. you have seized on one phrase in my long statement and taken it out of context. read it all. i am not advising or encouraging anyone to seek entrance to gradschool without degree.
no it is unlikely you can get in and unwise to try.
ill give you one successful example, barry mazur has no undergrad degree. he's the guy andrew wiles sent his manuscript on fermats last theorem to to check it. and presumably he was unsure about it, when it was indeed wrong.
but most of the rest of us are not at all like barry. and besides barry had all the academic requirements and time spent in school, he just refused to attend required ROTC. the school (MIT) afterwards seems to have eliminated the requirement, probably as a result of the subsequent embarrasment at ahving denied barry mazur a degree.