Time dilation: speed relative to what?

In summary: It only applies if the observer is moving relative to some standard clock.But differential ageing is also relative, right?Differential ageing is not coordinate-dependent, but time dilation is.
  • #71
Grimble said:
from the embankment, where the two events are simultaneous, the interval between the two lightning strikes would be s2 = 0 + x2 + y2 + z2
OK
Grimble said:
in the trains frame it would be -(cγt')2 + (γx')2 + (y')2 + (z')2
No, in the train's frame it is ##s^2 = -c^2 t'^2 + x'^2 + y'^2 + z'^2##. It most definitely does not equal what you have written.
Grimble said:
but as y' = y and z' = z this reduces to
x2 = s2 = -(cγt')2 + (γx')2
In the train's frame ##ct'=-vx \gamma/c##, ##x'=\gamma x##, ##y'=y##, and ##z'=z##.

So ##s^2 = -c^2 t'^2 + x'^2 + y'^2 + z'^2 = - v^2 x^2 \gamma^2/c^2 + x^2 \gamma^2 + y^2 + z^2 = x^2 + y^2 + z^2##
 
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harrylin said:
Regretfully I'm not sure to understand the meaning of those sentences. Perhaps you are thinking of a train in rest in one inertial reference system, compared with a train in rest in another inertial reference system? Indeed the physics should be the same.
Yes indeed I apolodise for my wording being a little slack there.
 

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