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rhody
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rcgldr said:Why aren't any of the normal liter bikes included in this comparason? Honda CBR 1000, Kawasaki ZX-10 (instead of the ZX-6), Suzuki GSXR 1000, Yamaha R1 1000, ?
I don't think abs will help much here. The danger of the 37.75 mile (60.7 km) track is the combination of high speeds, narrow track, and remembering which turns are 200mph turns and which ones are 160mph turns. Average speed on the fastest bikes is 130 mph now. From Wiki:
... regards to the safety, especially "Mad Sunday" when any member of the public can ride the mountain section of the course which is open one way from Ramsey to Douglas. The TT races are extremely dangerous because of the high speeds on very narrow, twisting streets, roads and lanes flanked by stone walls and even buildings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man_TT
rcgldr,
As for as your first comment about the HP/Thrust Chart, it came from October 2010 Sport Rider Magazine. They choose the bikes, and did not include the ones you mentioned for unknown reasons, it addition, why they included the Kawasaki ZX-6R in a liter bike comparison is a stumper.
Second, Mad Sunday is open to the public, however I am not sure of the safety rules imposed, safety wiring, inspection, etc... add infinitum. I think it would be interesting to make a lap of the course, at a relaxed pace. I am fairly careful, and would not ride with or near any yahoo's who could take me out with their antics.
Third, if you go to one of my earlier posts, https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=2997732&postcount=6" and watch video 1 link I think you will see what a great job BMW did in their development of the bike, it speaks for itself. From what the guys who work in the bike sales industry are telling me, in 2012, Ducati, Yamaha, and Honda are promising to answer the challenge issued by BMW in 2009 with the S1000RR. That remains to be seen, but it will be interesting to see what they come up with. There are rumors of liter bikes with a dry weight in the neighborhood of 400 - 410 lbs. How they will do this is beyond my comprehension. I feel lucky to have shaved 15 lbs of my bike with a Taylor exhaust, with carbon fiber cover. About 445 lbs with a full tank of fuel.
Rhody...
P.S. I have stated in more than one post in this thread before, it bears repeating here, I have the most fun in 1st .. 3rd gears getting it up off the corners and on the power, the acceleration is awesome, high speed is not necessary for that sensation. Do it all the time with the heavy FJR, however the BMW is in a whole different league altogether. It will take some getting used to. I have signed up and prepaid for a track day in June at Loudon race track in NH. About 30 guys going, it should be fun. They tell me you put about 140 track miles on your bike, enough to shag a set of tires, a new set of tires will be ready at the end of the day.
P.P.S. Turbo I got the calendar's today, my bike appears in August. Not too bad for a college student's senior project. Decide for yourself. You should have it in a week or so.
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