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I don't, I leave that to mathematicians.martinbn said:How do you phrase all that in terms of distributions?
I don't, I leave that to mathematicians.martinbn said:How do you phrase all that in terms of distributions?
But the field configuration is modeled by the quantum state. The field operator ##\phi(x)## just probes the field configuration at a specific point. The analog in quantum mechanics would be the position operators ##x_i##. E.g., we don't want ##x_1## to probe the position of particle ##i=2##. The analog of ##\eta(x)## would be something like the center of mass position ##\frac{1}{2}(x_1 + x_2)##.Demystifier said:I think it's in fact quite physical that a field at one point depends on other fields at other points. For instance, static electric field at one point depends on static charge distribution at all other points.
Those are good analogies. But if you take into account interactions between particles, there is nothing strange with the idea that the fist particle probes the position of the second particle. In fact, in the absence of such probing, physical measurement would be impossible. Besides, the center of mass position behaves very much like a point particle (it moves as if all mass was concentrated at that point), despite the fact that this point may not contain matter at all.Nullstein said:But the field configuration is modeled by the quantum state. The field operator ##\phi(x)## just probes the field configuration at a specific point. The analog in quantum mechanics would be the position operators ##x_i##. E.g., we don't want ##x_1## to probe the position of particle ##i=2##. The analog of ##\eta(x)## would be something like the center of mass position ##\frac{1}{2}(x_1 + x_2)##.
You destroyed all the fun, now we have nothing to discuss any more.samalkhaiat said:What a mess! Okay, I am going to settle this (local thingy) once and for all.
What is the issue that needs to be settled? The summary is good, it gives the definitions i wanted to see.vanhees71 said:Great summary, but let's see, whether this helps to settle the issue .
I once tried reading a copy of Baez's textbook on Intro to algebraic and constructive QFT:Demystifier said:You destroyed all the fun, now we have nothing to discuss any more.
Now seriously! What book or review would you recommend on this stuff?
Hehehe, the destruction would have been greater if the terms quasi-local, relatively local and/or localized fields were included in the discussions.Demystifier said:You destroyed all the fun, now we have nothing to discuss any more.
Now seriously! What book or review would you recommend on this stuff?
Causality and the absence of well-posed Cauchy Problems.MathematicalPhysicist said:@samalkhaiat what sort of "incurable diseases" does Nonlocal theories posses?
This is what I was asking you all the time. I'm glad that the apparent problems are settled now.martinbn said:What is the issue that needs to be settled? The summary is good, it gives the definitions i wanted to see.
"Well-posed Cauchy problems", does it mean we have more than one solution to the PDE?samalkhaiat said:Causality and the absence of well-posed Cauchy Problems.
Or none, or the solutions don't depend continuously on the data. These three are needed for a well-posed problem.MathematicalPhysicist said:"Well-posed Cauchy problems", does it mean we have more than one solution to the PDE?
Yes and No (as mentioned by martinbn above). Even though in most of the models the resulting equations have no solutions, but you asked about nonlocal theories (the plural of theory) hence the plural of Cauchy problem.MathematicalPhysicist said:"Well-posed Cauchy problems", does it mean we have more than one solution to the PDE?
Side question, why is an "ill-posed Cauchy problem" a problem? If the equations are say elliptic, then a different boundary value problem would be the natural one. And to me elliptic equations are non-local.samalkhaiat said:Yes and No (as mentioned by martinbn above). Even though in most of the models the resulting equations have no solutions, but you asked about nonlocal theories (the plural of theory) hence the plural of Cauchy problem.
Why?martinbn said:And to me elliptic equations are non-local.
A few reasons, for example you cannot localize solutions. You cannot change the solution in some region without changing it everywhere.Demystifier said:Why?
Mathematically, there are no problems with elliptic (hypo-elliptic) differential operator, because (by definition) it possesses a (real) analytic (respectively [itex]C^{\infty}[/itex]) fundamental solution. Laplace and Cauchy-Riemann operators are elliptic; the heat operator is hypo-elliptic.martinbn said:Side question, why is an "ill-posed Cauchy problem" a problem? If the equations are say elliptic, then a different boundary value problem would be the natural one. And to me elliptic equations are non-local.
Ok, so you meant that the equations will not be hyperbolic, rather than ill posed Cauchy problem. The heat equation has a well posed Cauchy problem, but I wouldn't call it local.samalkhaiat said:Mathematically, there are no problems with elliptic (hypo-elliptic) differential operator, because (by definition) it possesses a (real) analytic (respectively [itex]C^{\infty}[/itex]) fundamental solution. Laplace and Cauchy-Riemann operators are elliptic; the heat operator is hypo-elliptic.
The operators that govern the dynamical evolution on space-time need to be hyperbolic relative to the future light-cone.
What is "acausal"? the future affects the present? surely you didn't mean "static", right?vanhees71 said:That's why in relativistic hydro the Navier Stokes viscous hydro (1st order gradients) is acausal and instable, you have to go to 2nd order gradients ("Israel Stewart").
Back into the past travel...vanhees71 said:You get faster-than light propagation of sound waves, which is clearly acausal. For some details, see, e.g.,
https://arxiv.org/abs/0807.3120
My statement in #151 meant the absence of causal evolution. Causal evolution means “filling up” the future light-cone with non-intersecting space-like hyper-surfaces, i.e., Cauchy slices. The equations, derived from local relativistic Lagrangian, smoothly and happily take you from one Cauchy slices to the next (see exercise (1) in # 144).martinbn said:Ok, so you meant that the equations will not be hyperbolic, rather than ill posed Cauchy problem.
I have not discussed (and have no intention to discuss) locality/non-localty in non-relativistic field theories. So, why are we talking about the heat equation or other non-relativistic equations?The heat equation has a well posed Cauchy problem, but I wouldn't call it local.
Because some of us are interested in the concept of (non)locality in a wider context.samalkhaiat said:So, why are we talking about the heat equation or other non-relativistic equations?