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In summary, a man who used to be a Fox News guest analyst and claimed to be a CIA agent was sentenced to 33 months in prison for lying about his security clearance, criminal history, and finances.
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Hornbein said:
White supremacist.
I read your comment and thought "What!" Then I looked at the image again. Very clever actually!
 
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In short, the report says, Ivan told you so 20 years ago. :)
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Ivan Seeking said:
In short, the report says, Ivan told you so. :)View attachment 320360
If you cannot trust the government when it said there were no UFO’s, why should you trust it when it says there are UAP’s? :-p
 
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Frabjous said:
If you cannot trust the government when it said there were no UFO’s, why should you trust it when it says there are UAP’s?
The irony is, the real [original] UFO nuts were mostly government officials and high-ranking military personnel. This has never really been a secret. And the biggest debunker of all - the guy hired by the government to debunk UFO claims [Dr Allen Hynek] - became the leader of the field of study.

I never have tried to explain the reports and I still don't. But it isn't all just people's imaginations, flocks of birds, or swamp gas.
 
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One of the cool things about my research was all the people I met. I even got to be buddies with Edgar Mitchell - an astronaut who walked on the moon and a HUGE UFO guy.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
The irony is, the real [original] UFO nuts were mostly government officials and high-ranking military personnel. This has never really been a secret. And the biggest debunker of all - the guy hired by the government to debunk UFO claims [Dr Allen Hynek] - became the leader of the field of study.

I never have tried to explain the reports and I still don't. But it isn't all just people's imaginations, flocks of birds, or swamp gas.
Another interesting bit of related trivia: Hynek invented the "close encounter of the first, second, or third kind", scale, as a tool for genuine research. His investigations for the Government's "Project Bluebook" and others were the basis for events imagined in the movie, "Close Encounter's of the Third Kind" in which he makes a cameo appearance. He is the scholarly-looking guy seen briefly smoking a pipe when the mother ship is hovering over Devil's Tower.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
In short, the report says, Ivan told you so 20 years ago. :)View attachment 320360
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They're coming here to help us.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
The irony is, the real [original] UFO nuts were mostly government officials and high-ranking military personnel. This has never really been a secret. And the biggest debunker of all - the guy hired by the government to debunk UFO claims [Dr Allen Hynek] - became the leader of the field of study.

I never have tried to explain the reports and I still don't. But it isn't all just people's imaginations, flocks of birds, or swamp gas.
 
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TSA: passenger packs rocket launcher in checked bag
https://news.yahoo.com/tsa-passenger-packs-rocket-launcher-140014911.html

Who packs an 84 mm rocket launcher in their luggage?!
Transportation Security Administration officers at an airport in Texas found an 84 mm caliber weapon in outbound checked luggage Monday, according to an agency tweet. TSA initially noted Monday that the weapon was "undeclared," but on Tuesday made a correction, confirming that the passenger declared the item in question to the airline, but that TSA was not informed. "Out of an abundance of caution, TSA did not allow the item through baggage screening," the agency wrote on Twitter.

Oh, yeah. What happens in Texas.
 
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Astronuc said:
TSA: passenger packs rocket launcher in checked bag
https://news.yahoo.com/tsa-passenger-packs-rocket-launcher-140014911.html

Who packs an 84 mm rocket launcher in their luggage?!Oh, yeah. What happens in Texas.
It's not a rocket launcher, it's a recoilless rifle. :eek:
They are legal in every state that allows NFA firearms, as long as you've paid your tax stamp for a “Destructive Device" and passed the Federal background check.

https://www.military-today.com/firearms/recoilless_rifles.htm
 
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nsaspook said:
It's not a rocket launcher, it's a recoilless rifle.
When I was in 7-10th grades, I lived down the street from a Vietnam Vet who served in the special forces. I spent time visiting with him, and he had a nice collection of weapons and munitions, including a bazooka, a light anti-tank weapon (LAW), an AK-47, and various shells/rounds and grenades. The FBI and ATF paid a visit to his home following the discharge of the AK-47 by a buddy. The bullet went through the ceiling and roof of the house. ATF confiscated the live rounds.

I learned a lot from him and from the various manuals he loaned me. At the time, I had expected to be drafted for the war in Vietnam, so I thought I should train myself.
 
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Astronuc said:
When I was in 7-10th grades, I lived down the street from a Vietnam Vet who served in the special forces. I spent time visiting with him, and he had a nice collection of weapons and munitions, including a bazooka, a light anti-tank weapon (LAW), an AK-47, and various shells/rounds and grenades. The FBI and ATF paid a visit to his home following the discharge of the AK-47 by a buddy. The bullet went through the ceiling and roof of the house. ATF confiscated the live rounds.

I learned a lot from him and from the various manuals he loaned me. At the time, I had expected to be drafted for the war in Vietnam, so I thought I should train myself.

It this case it was a prop. Typical media nonsense over nothing once you get the full story.

https://news.yahoo.com/tsa-finds-undeclared-84-mm-155743674.html
The owner advised the item is a demilitarized 84MM Carl-Gustaf M4 recoilless rifle that was to be used as exhibit/demo item at the SHOT show currently happening in Las Vegas, Nevada.

The owner identified the steps taken to "demilitarize" the prop and produced company paperwork to that effect.

A TSA Explosives Specialist also confirmed the item was no longer able to be used; however, a TSA supervisor declared the item would not be allowed onboard aircraft.

Their own TSA expert said it was just a hunk of metal. TSA strikes again.
 
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Astronuc said:
Who packs an 84 mm rocket launcher in their luggage?!
Wouldn't fit in the overhead.
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
Wow! I think someone needs a little counseling.


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better, but I immediately downloaded Last Christmas. Just in case. There once was a bavarian attorney who indexed a book by Henry Miller. You bet I ran to the bookstore the very next morning!
 
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They hate Last Christmas because she worked in a place that had it on a loop. I can dig it. I stayed in a hotel in Nanjing for two days. They had van Beethoven's Fur Elise on a loop. I was so glad to leave.

The BIC Camera stores in Japan have a short stupid jingle on a loop. I could never work there. As it is I go in, buy what I need and get out.
 
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I was once in a mostly deserted shopping center that had Last Christmas on, but whatever media player it was on was broken. It went

Last year I gave you my heart,
The very next d-
Last year I gave you my heart,
The very next d-
Last year I gave you my heart,
The very next d-

I did not stay long enough to find out how long it took them to get it fixed...
 
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Ibix said:
I was once in a mostly deserted shopping center that had Last Christmas on, but whatever media player it was on was broken. It went

Last year I gave you my heart,
The very next d-
Last year I gave you my heart,
The very next d-
Last year I gave you my heart,
The very next d-

I did not stay long enough to find out how long it took them to get it fixed...
A loop of "All I want for xmas is you," by Maria Carey would be my worst nightmare.
East 17, 'Stay now' hot on its heels.
Lots of others but I don't want to ruin Sunday lunch.
 
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Ibix said:
I did not stay long enough to find out how long it took them to get it fixed...
Neither did the employees.
 
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Not exactly news since the crash occurred over a decade ago but does qualify as weird.

Winganon Space Capsule

A detached cement mixer has been transformed to resemble a relic from some obscure NASA mission to Oklahoma.​

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Hornbein said:
They hate Last Christmas because she worked in a place that had it on a loop. I can dig it. I stayed in a hotel in Nanjing for two days. They had van Beethoven's Fur Elise on a loop. I was so glad to leave.

The BIC Camera stores in Japan have a short stupid jingle on a loop. I could never work there. As it is I go in, buy what I need and get out

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A loop of "All I want for xmas is you," by Maria Carey would be my worst nightmare.
East 17, 'Stay now' hot on its heels.
Lots of others but I don't want to ruin Sunday lunch.
When I was in college, I worked at a store in a small timber town. You haven't lived until you hear Jingle Bells played on chainsaws 30 times a day.

The rest of the year, we spent a lot of time worrying about Jake getting fed if his owner died before he awoke.
 
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Weird, and tragic - Dog steps on rifle in backseat of truck, fatally shoots Kansas man, officials say
https://www.yahoo.com/news/dog-steps-rifle-backseat-truck-145705129.html

A dog stepped on an unsecured and loaded rifle, which inadvertently discharged striking a passenger in the back. "EMS personnel administered CPR before the victim was pronounced dead."

I have to wonder if the person who was fatally shot owned the rifle, or was it the owner/driver of the truck
Nevertheless, the recommended, but not mandatory, practice, is the "engage the safetey, unload/remove live ammunition until one is ready to use, and store in a safe container until withdrawn for use".
 
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Stupid is as stupid does. It's part of the reason why I'm not friends with some people that I used to know. Guns are not toys and should always be treated as if they're loaded and can go off at any time.
 
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Borg said:
Guns are not toys and should always be treated as if they're loaded and can go off at any time.
One of the fundamental rules of firearms safety. But it's only taught to hunters and those who take concealed carry courses.

I had an uncle that shot himself on two different occasions. The first case involved him grabbing a loaded gun from the back seat by the muzzle. The trigger snagged on something and he shot himself in the belly. He fully recovered from that one. The second time, he had both hands over the muzzle of a loaded gun that was resting on his foot. The butt slipped off his foot, the gun discharged, and both of his hands were were partly and permanently crippled. He eventually died of old age. All of that was in the days before hunter safety courses existed.
 
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Astronuc said:
Weird, and tragic - Dog steps on rifle in backseat of truck, fatally shoots Kansas man, officials say
https://www.yahoo.com/news/dog-steps-rifle-backseat-truck-145705129.html

A dog stepped on an unsecured and loaded rifle, which inadvertently discharged striking a passenger in the back. "EMS personnel administered CPR before the victim was pronounced dead."

I have to wonder if the person who was fatally shot owned the rifle, or was it the owner/driver of the truck
Nevertheless, the recommended, but not mandatory, practice, is the "engage the safetey, unload/remove live ammunition until one is ready to use, and store in a safe container until withdrawn for use".
K.S.A. 12-16,124(d) provides that “no person shall be prosecuted under any ordinance, resolution or regulation for transporting a firearm in any air, land or water vehicle if the firearm is unloaded and encased in a container which completely encloses the firearm.”
https://www.concealedcarryonline.co...g the manner of transporting a loaded firearm.
 
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jrmichler said:
One of the fundamental rules of firearms safety. But it's only taught to hunters and those who take concealed carry courses.
And Law Enforcement Officers (LEOs) and military personnel, of course.

Even so, accidents still happen. But as long as the two most fundamental firearm safety practices are used, hopefully there will be no injuries or deaths that result: 1) treat all firearms as if they are loaded, even if you know for sure that it is not, and 2) always keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.

One accidental discharge that I witnessed was at a rural community shooting competition, where everybody was an experienced hunter. One participant was setting his shotgun in the bed of his pickup truck when it went off and shot a hole in the side of the bed of his truck, and luckily did not hit anybody. He was asked to leave that event after he unloaded his firearm.

One other incident ironically was inside the Sheriff's offices of a local agency, where I was in a meeting in the Emergency Operation Center (EOC) Briefing Room that was part of those offices. A plain clothes officer took off his coat and shoulder harness to hang them up in the bathroom stall while they relieved themselves. Unfortunately the trigger of the pistol in the holster in the harness snagged the hanger hook, and the pistol fired a round up through the roof. You can imagine the response when the shot was heard from the bathroom in the middle of the Sheriff's office in the middle of the day...

Stay safe folks.
 
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berkeman said:
And Law Enforcement Officers (LEOs) and military personnel, of course.

Even so, accidents still happen. But as long as the two most fundamental firearm safety practices are used, hopefully there will be no injuries or deaths that result: 1) treat all firearms as if they are loaded, even if you know for sure that it is not, and 2) always keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.

One accidental discharge that I witnessed was at a rural community shooting competition, where everybody was an experienced hunter. One participant was setting his shotgun in the bed of his pickup truck when it went off and shot a hole in the side of the bed of his truck, and luckily did not hit anybody. He was asked to leave that event after he unloaded his firearm.

One other incident ironically was inside the Sheriff's offices of a local agency, where I was in a meeting in the Emergency Operation Center (EOC) Briefing Room that was part of those offices. A plain clothes officer took off his coat and shoulder harness to hang them up in the bathroom stall while they relieved themselves. Unfortunately the trigger of the pistol in the holster in the harness snagged the hanger hook, and the pistol fired a round up through the roof. You can imagine the response when the shot was heard from the bathroom in the middle of the Sheriff's office in the middle of the day...

Stay safe folks.
Years ago, we had a YT video of a cop teaching a gun safety class, who then accidently discharged a gun in the classroom. :oops:
 
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One other quick story / lesson learned. I grew up an Army brat (our family traveled with my career Army dad all over the world), and one of the stories he told me when I was a young lad (just starting to learn about firearm safety) was of one of the places he had been stationed where his barracks was near the Military Police (MP) station. The MPs had a rule that they had to unload their firearms before entering the station, and pull the trigger on their unloaded firearms while pointing them at a barrel full of sand before entering. Dad said they regularly heard several shots per week going into that sand barrel...
 
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Sounds about right. The Army seems to take anyone whose legs are long enough to reach the ground. o_O
 
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berkeman said:
1) treat all firearms as if they are loaded, even if you know for sure that it is not, and 2) always keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.
Yes and Yes 100%
 
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The gun thing in the states is a little alien to us here (UK)

When someone is killed by a gun it usually it is to do with a criminal or the police and is thankfully still relatively rare. (0.24 deaths per 100,000 population compared to 10.89)

The below was a shock and reminder if they can get it wrong, civvies would make a much worse mess.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ter-news/funeral-of-pc-in-gun-accident-958775
 
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