What is the Differential Equation for Airflow in a Balloon?

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The discussion centers on developing a differential equation for the airflow in a balloon, emphasizing the need for a clear problem statement. Participants highlight that understanding the airflow involves factors like volume, pressure, and the characteristics of the efflux, including back pressure and flow rate. Clarification is needed on whether the focus is on inflating, deflating, or steady-state conditions. The importance of researching existing literature on balloon inflation is also mentioned as a potential resource for solutions. A complete problem statement is essential for effective assistance in formulating the differential equation.
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I have a problem. The task is to develop an differential equation of the airflow of a balloon. I know that it is dependent on the volume and pressure. But I can't get a good differential equasion. Can someone help me?

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Hello Hans, :welcome: !

Here at PF we consider 'tasks' as homework, and for homework we require you post your own attempt at solution before we are allowed to help.

Anyway, helping is difficult if the problem isn't described clearly: 'airflow of a balloon' is not enough to describe what is going on. What air ? Going in, or out, or perhaps around while moving upwards ?
 
Oh sorry I am new to this forum and I may made a mistake :D The task or homework is to discribe the volume of the balloon and not the airflow. And I tried to solve this a few times but I can't come up with a suitable solution.
 
Seems to me you will need to some know the characteristics of the efflux (back pressure vs flow rate). Also you need to understand rubber and how the tension is related to radius. What is the variable you will use to characterize the system?
Assume a spherical balloon ...
 
Have you researched the subject on the web? Try "Inflating a balloon" and see what pops up (no pun intended). Others have tried the same thing as you and you might profit from their efforts.
 
Hansemannchen said:
The task or homework is to discribe the volume of the balloon and not the airflow.
Still incomplete: steady state (--no--) ?, during inflation?, during deflation ?
Please post a complete problem statement -- if you have one, it should help you too !

And I tried to solve this a few times but I can't come up with a suitable solution.
Post your best shot !
 
Kindly see the attached pdf. My attempt to solve it, is in it. I'm wondering if my solution is right. My idea is this: At any point of time, the ball may be assumed to be at an incline which is at an angle of θ(kindly see both the pics in the pdf file). The value of θ will continuously change and so will the value of friction. I'm not able to figure out, why my solution is wrong, if it is wrong .
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