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In summary, the conversation consists of various discussions about documentaries, the acquisition of National Geographic by Fox, a funny manual translation, cutting sandwiches, a question about the proof of the infinitude of primes, and a realization about the similarity between PF and PDG symbols. The conversation also touches on multitasking and the uniqueness of the number two as a prime number.
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fresh_42 said:
Google translates this as "satisfied". To me, it sounds like a chemical solution that cannot take more stuff to resolve. I meant an adjective for "not hungry" and "not thirsty". This does not mean being fed up or drunk. They simply do not exist. Of course, there are workarounds.
"Satiated" is the correct English word here (i.e., "had enough to eat.") Google might translate it as "satisfied," but that doesn't reflect all the connotations.

"Satiated" means having had enough quantity to eat or drink without offering any commentary on the quality. One can be satiated after eating a meal, while still being horribly dissatisfied with the quality of the meal, assuming one ate enough of it.

And it's not an uncommon word. I use it frequently when discussing the pros and cons of various weight-loss diets.

fresh_42 said:
Another funny little word is "doch".

Now that's a word that might not have a good English translation. :wink: I seem to remember that word when I took German language classes. It always seemed mysterious to me. In my recollection, it was just left out altogether in the German [itex] \rightarrow [/itex] English translation, and sometimes just seemed to be thrown in all willy-nilly to the English [itex] \rightarrow [/itex] German translation. (Edit: although that might be due in part to my waning memory of the subject.)
 
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collinsmark said:
"Satiated" is the correct English word here
Maybe, and it probably means "gesättigt" in German, i.e. a verb. I was looking for an adjective, not a verb that is used as such.

"Ich bin satt" should be the everyday version of "I am satiated", which, if I read it correctly, is a bit more sophisticated, which by the way doesn't have a good German correspondence either.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Maybe, and it probably means "gesättigt" in German, i.e. a verb. I was looking for an adjective, not a verb that is used as such.
"Satiated" is most commonly used as an adjective.

Furthermore, it is most commonly used as an adjective in the "subject nominative" in the predicate of the sentence. For example, after eating enough such that I'm no longer hungry, I might say, "I am satiated." Here, "satiated" functions as an adjective modifying "I."

Although it could, albeit less commonly, still be used as an adjective with a more direct modification, such as "The satiated collinsmark left the table after eating only two hot dogs."

It's even less common that it would be used as a verb, although you still could: "Let's make sure to satiate all our dinner guests by stuffing mashed potatoes down their throats before they have a chance to leave." That would be unusual, but grammatically acceptable.
 
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collinsmark said:
Now that's a word that might not have a good English translation. :wink: I seem to remember that word when I took German language classes. It always seemed mysterious to me.
"Doch" has really a universal property. Besides a simple "yes" or "but, yes" in the sense to contradict somebody, it could also be used as a strengthener or conjunction.

"Du bist ja doch gekommen!" means "You came after all!" but after all sounds like "after all the things that have been said". However, it should mean "despite your plans", "although you said you wouldn't / had no time". As a conjunction, it means something between "although" and "but". It is a mighty tiny word.
 
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Oh, also, "satiated" can in some circumstances be a synonym for "appeased." As an example, "The pitchfork wielding, angry mob became satiated only after tearing the criminal apart from limb to limb, then throwing each limb, one by one, into the bonfire."

It's mostly used for food though.
 
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My random thought of the day is a random question:

Have you ever been fearful of leaving a negative business review (Yelp!, Google Reviews, etc.) out of concern the person/business may retaliate against you?
 
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kyphysics said:
My random thought of the day is a random question:

Have you ever been fearful of leaving a negative business review (Yelp!, Google Reviews, etc.) out of concern the person/business may retaliate against you?
Are you dissing my business again??! Why do you think they track you down? Do you even have a fixed IP?
 
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collinsmark said:
"Satiated" is most commonly used as an adjective.

Furthermore, it is most commonly used as an adjective in the "subject nominative" in the predicate of the sentence. For example, after eating enough such that I'm no longer hungry, I might say, "I am satiated." Here, "satiated" functions as an adjective modifying "I."

Although it could, albeit less commonly, still be used as an adjective with a more direct modification, such as "The satiated collinsmark left the table after eating only two hot dogs."

It's even less common that it would be used as a verb, although you still could: "Let's make sure to satiate all our dinner guests by stuffing mashed potatoes down their throats before they have a chance to leave." That would be unusual, but grammatically acceptable.
You addressed 'Satiated', but you left the 'doch' out ;).
 
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It's pretty crazy to think that you could die literally any day. I guess most people assume they'll live for a decent amount of time before old-age or illness set in, but you could just as well get hit by a drunk-driver one day, or choke on an apple, or whatever. I guess people have deep-seated psychological predisposition to somehow doubting their own deaths... "oh, a freak accident? surely it'll never happen to me..."
 
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ergospherical said:
It's pretty crazy to think that you could die literally any day. I guess most people assume they'll live for a decent amount of time before old-age or illness set in, but you could just as well get hit by a drunk-driver one day, or choke on an apple, or whatever. I guess people have deep-seated psychological predisposition to somehow doubting their own deaths... "oh, a freak accident? surely it'll never happen to me..."
I doubt I will ever ...argh...argh...
 
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WWGD said:
I doubt I will ever ...argh...argh...
Never mind, just a minor cough ;).
 
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It‘s not even December yet and I haven’t been able to find a coffee shop that hasn’t been playing Christmas music this morning… 🎄
 
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ergospherical said:
It‘s not even December yet and I haven’t been able to find a coffee shop that hasn’t been playing Christmas music this morning… 🎄
I know what you mean. And you can't do anything about it. And they always play ...

... and never ...

However, what you can do is change your assessment. Instead of being annoyed, I decided to feel remembered of the last time mankind was caught in an act of morality, caused by Christmas songs.
 
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Random Pet Peeve of the Day
I hate when people (especially, relatives) come to your residence unannounced or "under-announced" (i.e., "Hey, I am in the neighborhood and dropping by in 10 minutes!"). ...

Ughhhhhhhhhhh, hell no! I need PREP TIME! I can't stand when people do this to me! Happens around holidays/birthdays a lot too. Not a party pooper, but HATE this experience. Sometimes I don't want to see that person and maybe there's a reason I haven't contacted them recently. ...Out of nowhere, they call to say they're "on the way." ...
 
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The problems of popularity.
 
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BillTre said:
The problems of popularity.
It's strange, I'm not really that popular. Or maybe, I'm strange and not that popular. EDIT: I'm not that bad; I give people a pass, just like they do to me. Just when someone does it too often.
 
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WWGD said:
It's strange, I'm not really that popular. Or maybe, I'm strange and not that popular. EDIT: I'm not that bad; I give people a pass, just like they do to me. Just when someone does it too often.
I refer to egregious violators; I know we all do that to some extent, and don't want to be tiptoing around others. Just this lady recently at Sbux , who would see me using headphones while tapping at my PC and would start : Psst!, Psst!, across a few tables, doing that like 5x /hour, doing it each time I was there. Don't worry, I'm not that much of a hothead.
 
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A random bit of advice, frequently quoted in our family:
- If you can't find something, look again in the first place, only harder.
It's amazingly effective; presumably it works because you don't look very carefully when you're first trying to find something, and you only start getting more thorough when you're getting worried about not finding it.

[Edit: I see I previously posted this tip in the thread "Lost and Found" in 2014:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/lost-and-found.780338/post-4904750]
 
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Jonathan Scott said:
look again in the first place, only harder.
Yes, it's amazing how junk can hide in the junk drawer.

Also, I misremember colours. I once looked all over for a red book. Turned out it was blue.
 
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Keith_McClary said:
I once looked all over for a red book. Turned out it was blue.
Search image construction failure.
 
  • #8,386
Jonathan Scott said:
A random bit of advice, frequently quoted in our family:
- If you can't find something, look again in the first place, only harder.
It's amazingly effective; presumably it works because you don't look very carefully when you're first trying to find something, and you only start getting more thorough when you're getting worried about not finding it.

[Edit: I see I previously posted this tip in the thread "Lost and Found" in 2014:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/lost-and-found.780338/post-4904750]
Then why do I always find things in the last place I look?
 
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valenumr said:
Then why do I always find things in the last place I look?
Because it is automatically the last place if you found them.
 
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Today I poured some leftover chicken tikka masala sauce over a couple of mince pies and served it with toast. I think I'm getting pretty good at this "life skills" thing. :oldbiggrin:
 
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ergospherical said:
Today I poured some leftover chicken tikka masala sauce over a couple of mince pies and served it with toast. I think I'm getting pretty good at this "life skills" thing. :oldbiggrin:
I'm getting better at my "Microwaving" skills (Specially for skills that are microwavable) ;).
 
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fresh_42 said:
Because it is automatically the last place if you found them.
I prefer to keep looking anyway, just in case.
 
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valenumr said:
I prefer to keep looking anyway, just in case.
I remember a similar exchange recently between 3 people A,B, C:

A ( to B) : Hey, they're setaling your car
B: I don't have a car
C: Then you better hurry and go there.
 
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They advertise a shower lotion with 97% biologically degradable. What the heck are the remaining 3% made of? Sand?
 
  • #8,393
fresh_42 said:
They advertise a shower lotion with 97% biologically degradable. What the heck are the remaining 3% made of? Sand?
It reminds me of : " We don't experiment on animals". What else is there? I guess they experiment on people.
 
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WWGD said:
It reminds me of : " We don't experiment on animals". What else is there? I guess they experiment on people.
Yes. I think similar if they say "With brand new formula!" or "Now better than ever!" What have they sold until then? Crap?
 
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fresh_42 said:
They advertise a shower lotion with 97% biologically degradable. What the heck are the remaining 3% made of? Sand?
Probably petroleum.
 
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WWGD said:
It reminds me of : " We don't experiment on animals". What else is there? I guess they experiment on people.
Experiments can be also done in vitro (meaning in glass, like cells in a petri plate).
It depends what you are testing for. For some purposes animals (or people) can be replaced, for some they can't.
 
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fresh_42 said:
They advertise a shower lotion with 97% biologically degradable. What the heck are the remaining 3% made of? Sand?
I saw one that was labeled "gluten free".
 
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valenumr said:
I saw one that was labeled "gluten free".
And I saw an apple juice labeled vegan. Besides the fact that I expect apples to be vegan, I also wondered how they guarantee that no worm will sneak in the process.
 
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fresh_42 said:
They advertise a shower lotion with 97% biologically degradable. What the heck are the remaining 3% made of? Sand?
Sometimes I wonder how kitchen salt would becategorized. Is it degradable or not?
 
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I'm curious about yogurt spoiling. Isn't it essentially spoiled milk to start with?
 

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