Why Do Fathers Experience Premature Graying?

[dlgoff]

I'm surprised this thread hasn't been closed since it's been so long since I've posted to it. Today is my daughter's 30th birthday and after wishing her a happy birthday in an email, this is what she replied she was doing for the day:

My daughter just sent me some photos of the airplanes she's been doing acrobatics with. She is in the beginning stage of her training, so her instructor is doing most of the hard maneuvers. On the phone she said during one maneuver, they were pulling 8 Gs.

She looks happy:

Here are the two planes she been training in:

 

[berkeman]

She looks happy:

Cute necklace (and appropriate). She may want to put it in her pocket while doing aerobatics, though, to keep from getting distracted by it flipping all over the place.

 

[dlgoff]

Cute necklace (and appropriate). She may want to put it in her pocket while doing aerobatics, though, to keep from getting distracted by it flipping all over the place.

Thanks @berkeman. I'll mention this to her.

edit: I just emailed her about this. Thanks again.

 

[dlgoff]

here's a pic of my daughter learning to fly the acrobatics airplane:

 

[Vanadium 50]

I'm surprised the picture was taken with the sky on top.
Mostly.

 

[dlgoff]

Here are some pics my daughter posted on FaceBook:

I think this is her favorite plane:

This is the acrobat team I think:

 

[jrmichler]

Be warned. Her favorite plane looks like a Piper Cub with large tires. That's not an aerobatic plane. She could be doing fun stuff like waterskiing: https://backcountrypilot.org/forum/cessna-182-water-assisted-landing-21174.

 

[berkeman]

Yeah, I wondered about those extra-large tires. I assumed that they were using some dirt/grass runways or something similar.

 

[dlgoff]

Yeah, I wondered about those extra-large tires. I assumed that they were using some dirt/grass runways or something similar.

I really don't know, but I just emailed her and asked that she revisit this thread and see the comments about those FB pics I posted.

 

[Vanadium 50]

That's not an aerobatic plane.

Any plane is an aerobatic plane if you are motivated enough.

 

[jrmichler]

Any plane is an aerobatic plane if you are motivated enough.

That can easily not end well. I once listened to creaking noises coming from the wings of an Aeronca Champ while graying out coming down the backside of a loop while approaching redline airspeed. A non aerobatic airplane will do aerobatics, but at the cost of too many safety factors approaching 1.0 at the same time.

A student pilot, of the spoiled rich kid variety, did a loop in a Cessna 150. He succeeded, but bent the flap mechanism. He was thrown out of the flying school, and the airplane repaired.

A couple hotshot pilots during WWII read that it was impossible to loop a PBY-5A. The book was both right and wrong. They successfully looped the plane, but the entire trailing edge of the wing buckled upward about 2/3 the way back from the leading edge. They successfully landed it, but it never flew again. My father swore up and down that he was not one of those pilots, but he did admit to being there.

 

[Astronuc]

2019 CIRRUS SF50 G2 Vision Jet
Williams International FJ33
Dual Channel Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC)
1846lb Thrust Rating

Base Aircraft Price (USD) $2,315,000

That's actually a bargain.

HondaJet's Elite costs $5.25 million (it's twin engine)

https://www.businessinsider.com/hon...ide-hondas-5-million-private-jet-cabin-2019-6

 

[dlgoff]

My Daughter is at a competition. Here's the flight pattern that she will be flying:

 

[dlgoff]

That's actually a bargain.

HondaJet's Elite costs $5.25 million (it's twin engine)

https://www.businessinsider.com/hon...ide-hondas-5-million-private-jet-cabin-2019-6

This is what my daughter said when I asked her if she would like to own one.

Honda jets are nice, we got a few when I worked at Denver jetCenter so I've seen them. I wouldn't care to own a jet. I'd rather have a single-engine bush or aerobatic-type plane for fun.

 

[Vanadium 50]

There are over a dozen F-14's on the government surplus list. I see them every time I look for chairs and desks. It's a twin engine, but I am sure your daughter can adapt.

It's also a two-seater, so you could ride along. Wheeeee!

 

[Ivan Seeking]

This is the same plane I flew while playing LASER tag with someone else who didn't know how to fly - Marchetti SF – 260. Did a barrel roll and a 5g loop as well. Having never flown a plane before, getting one hour of training and then jumping into real dog fights was insanely intense to say the least! But there was a top gun pilot sitting next to me who could take over if we got into trouble. The scariest part was not the 30 seconds of parachute training I received. It was his verbal instructions: "If the plane catches on fire, just go ahead and jump. I'll stay with the plane."

 

[dlgoff]

Here's a happy photo of my daughter learning to acrobat fly:

 

[pinball1970]

Here's a happy photo of my daughter learning to acrobat fly:
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Great pic.

 

[Vanadium 50]

Here's a happy photo of my daughter learning to acrobat fly

Is the picture right-side-up?

 

[dlgoff]

Is the picture right-side-up?

I don't know. Doesn't look like it. I'll have to ask her.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

I don't know. Doesn't look like it. I'll have to ask her.

If she was upside down her hair wouldn't be sitting on her shoulder.

 

[dlgoff]

If she was upside down her hair wouldn't be sitting on her shoulder.

Oh yea. Your right.

 

[Ibix]

If she was upside down her hair wouldn't be sitting on her shoulder.

If she's looping the loop her hair would be on her shoulder even when the plane was upside down, due to the g force.

 

[Vanadium 50]

If she was upside down her hair wouldn't be sitting on her shoulder.

Mousse. Lots of mousse.

 

[dlgoff]

Here's my daughter with the acrobat team (the girl with her hand on the prop):

 

[Ivan Seeking]

If she's looping the loop her hair would be on her shoulder even when the plane was upside down, due to the g force.

If she was doing a loop I don't think she would be looking away from the window and controls.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Here's my daughter with the acrobat team (the girl with her hand on the prop):
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Yeah she doesn't seem to like this much. Next up, skydiving!

 

[Vanadium 50]

If she was doing a loop I don't think she would be looking away from the window and controls.

It's best to just close your eyes.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

It's best to just close your eyes.

The natural tendency is to keep making the radius of the loop tighter and tighter as you near the end. I think most people would need to look at their instruments to be sure they make a circle.

 

[dlgoff]

Here's the latest from my daughter:

I'm not sure how the quality is but I attached a video of me running through my primary sequence. This was a practice flight from last week. It is not the best as I was still learning but this is in an Xtreme Decathlon. This plane is the pane that I have been practicing in for weeks and up to the day of the competition. It ended up breaking and I had to compete in a comparable but still different airplane that I had never flown before. I was very sad about that because I had my routine down quite well. I didn't fly very well in the other plane but i still managed to pull it together on my second flight and place 2nd.

The video has the wrong extension to attach.

 

[berkeman]

I have been practicing in for weeks and up to the day of the competition. It ended up breaking

She managed to break an aerobatic airplane? Yikes! Glad she is okay.

 

[pinball1970]

If she's looping the loop her hair would be on her shoulder even when the plane was upside down, due to the g force.

She managed to break an aerobatic airplane? Yikes! Glad she is okay.

She broke the first plane doing aerobatics so got in another one to complete the runs...mm.
If a plane (commercial) ever breaks i am on and we land ok I am not getting on another one just like that.
Not without meds.

 

[dlgoff]

She managed to break an aerobatic airplane? Yikes! Glad she is okay.

I don't really think she broke it. It was probably something else that had a problem. I'll ask however.

 

[dlgoff]

She hasn't replied about what broke but she did send a couple photos of her medals:

 

[OCR]

The natural tendency is to keep making the radius of the loop tighter and tighter. . .

And, then. . .

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