Why Do Some Women Use Threats of Castration in Relationships?

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In summary, the author argues that being a "nice guy" does not mean being confident or self-assured, and that being nice is better, no matter what.
  • #36
hypatia said:
I married a very handsom party-boy..20 yrs later he is still just that. So I divorced him. Now I'm looking for a nice guy...someone who cares more about the world and less about his haircut.

You expected him to change.

I hate girls who expect change.
 
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  • #37
tribdog said:
doesn't anyone else think Astronuc is attractive? I can't be the only one can I?
apparently I am. sorry Astro. where the heck is astro anyway? it's been a while.

If he were younger and single. :approve:
 
  • #38
Chrono said:
I don't think I've seen her.
and I don't think you ever completely read a post. Do you have ADD by any chance?
 
  • #39
tribdog said:
and I don't think you ever completely read a post. Do you have ADD by any chance?
Hey, Chrono is my buddy. You mess with him, you mess with me. :devil:
 
  • #40
Moonbear said:
If he were younger and single. :approve:
yeah, where is that guy - I miss him. :cry:
He's not my type physically (the long grey beard reminds me too much of my uncle) but you know the dude has to be just scorching hot in the sack. :-p Totally playful and adventurous. I give him big points for that! (Bet his wife does, too :wink: )
 
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  • #41
Evo said:
Hey, Chrono is my buddy. You mess with him, you mess with me. :devil:
I agree. Chrono is a wonderful person. I think very, very highly of him. He is one of my most favorite people I have ever met here. :smile:
 
  • #42
Chrono, the ladies are all over you. ;)
 
  • #43
Math Is Hard said:
I agree. Chrono is a wonderful person. I think very, very highly of him. He is one of my most favorite people I have ever met here. :smile:

Really? Thanks! :approve:

By the way, how's it going with your sister? :wink:
 
  • #44
JasonRox said:
Chrono, the ladies are all over you. ;)

Yeah. Online I can get the girls, but in real life, I suck at it. :-p
 
  • #45
Hey Tribdog, what have you been smoking? :smile:

I've been busy.

Thanks for the compliments - I think.

The picture in the avatar is from about 1980, about the time I met the woman I married. My closest friends then called me "Dogface" or "Hound" because I shaved infrequently. I first grew a beard in 1977, and shaved briefly during a two week period in June 1981 while trying to get a job on an offshore oil rig where beards and long hair are not permitted. I ended up getting a job onshore as a steelworker. I was one of those guys who walked the high iron - 100+ feet with nothing below but ground.


Moonbear and MIH, thanks for the compliments. Your both very sweet.

I have been married for almost 23 years (24 considering the year we lived together), so I don't have to worry about finding the 'right' one. In fact, I have already met several 'right' women, but I can only be married to one.

As for waiting outside a changing room - I hate shopping - so I rarely go into a clothing or department store.

I tend to wear a minimal amount of clothing. I prefer to wear cutoffs (and no shirt), and go barefoot.
 
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  • #46
I have a close friend who is like this guy (the pathetic part - not the arrogant part. this guy is an unusal combination of the two, though it may just be he's gotten bitter now that he realized it) and I simply don't buy that women don't know what a guy is doing when he's standing outside their changing room when they are trying on clothes. In his case, the girl knew perfectly well what the score was: she was a user and an abuser.

That said, I think women are more apt to have completely platonic male friends than vice versa. But I know they can tell the difference between a guy who is just being a friend and one who is a little lost puppy dog.

I have stories...maybe later.
 
  • #47
I say bring on the nice guy with warm or intense conversations and curiosities in things other then himself.
I've noticed that "nice" guys seem to be a little shy too?
 
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  • #48
Chrono said:
By the way, how's it going with your sister? :wink:
well.. Lurleen broke up with Travis on Valentine's Day, but he somehow got her back. I don't know what to think about that girl, even if she is my kin and all. I think you can do better. She's just crazy.
 
  • #49
I like the prospector picture better Astronuc.
Math is Hard, you have a sister named Lurleen? lol you hick.
 
  • #50
tribdog said:
I like the prospector picture better Astronuc.
Math is Hard, you have a sister named Lurleen? lol you hick.
It's an inbreeding thang. Did I ever tell you about my webbed toes? :-p
 
  • #51
Math Is Hard said:
It's an inbreeding thang. Did I ever tell you about my webbed toes? :-p
yeah you told me, you probably don't remember though you were pretty hammered. I notice you cashed the check though where's the feet picture you promised.
 
  • #52
let me go ask Uncle Daddy - he's still got the negatives. He might be out in the truck with Lurleen tonight so I don't know when I can get back to you.
 
  • #53
The name 'nice guys' is a little bit insulting to the men who are nice, as a 'nice guy' is thought of as a wimp or a push over with not much personality.

Nice is thus down graded into something which is not a good thing to be - something which is bad for individuals and society.

In reality thinking about other people and doing nice things does not impair chances with women. It is lack of charisma and being a wimp which does this.
 
  • #54
I thought this was an O.D.E.(Ordinary Differential Equation) to us nice guys to solve? I'm sooo disappointed!
 
  • #55
polyb said:
I thought this was an O.D.E.(Ordinary Differential Equation) to us nice guys to solve? I'm sooo disappointed!


LOL. :smile:

I really did laugh at that. God i am a geek.
 
  • #56
plus said:
The name 'nice guys' is a little bit insulting to the men who are nice, as a 'nice guy' is thought of as a wimp or a push over with not much personality.

I really do hate that. Confusing kindness with weakness. One quote I absolute love, I think, sums this right up.

"I learned that it is the weak who are cruel, and that gentleness is to
be expected only from the strong."
-Leo Rosten
 
  • #57
plus said:
The name 'nice guys' is a little bit insulting to the men who are nice, as a 'nice guy' is thought of as a wimp or a push over with not much personality.

I think this is where the confusion comes in. When women say we want a nice guy, we mean genuinely nice, not a wimpy push-over puppy. But, when we wind up being followed around by a wimpy push-over puppy, and give him the brush-off, then he goes whining that women all say they want a nice guy and he's a nice guy so women must not mean it when they say they want a nice guy. From the wimpy push-over puppy perspective, even the genuinely nice guys that women date probably appear to be jerks because even a nice guy isn't going to give a wimpy push-over puppy the time of day because they're just too darn annoying to be around.

Bottom line...be yourself and you'll have a far better chance of finding a woman who suits you best.
 
  • #58
Moonbear said:
Bottom line...be yourself and you'll have a far better chance of finding a woman who suits you best.


That's a moot point, these 'nice guys' are being themselves. No one would choose to act that way if they weren't naturally like that. If they're stupid enough that they would, we don't want them reproducing, so they should keep acting that way.
 
  • #59
Moonbear said:
I think this is where the confusion comes in. When women say we want a nice guy, we mean genuinely nice, not a wimpy push-over puppy. But, when we wind up being followed around by a wimpy push-over puppy, and give him the brush-off, then he goes whining that women all say they want a nice guy and he's a nice guy so women must not mean it when they say they want a nice guy. From the wimpy push-over puppy perspective, even the genuinely nice guys that women date probably appear to be jerks because even a nice guy isn't going to give a wimpy push-over puppy the time of day because they're just too darn annoying to be around.
hmm... quite a few dog references.. :-p
but a very good explanation. :smile:
 
  • #60
Math Is Hard said:
hmm... quite a few dog references.. :-p
but a very good explanation. :smile:


Think it might have been a freudian thing?

Maybe she was thinking about *tribdog*?
 
  • #61
I thought the 'dog' thing was Pavlov. :biggrin:
 
  • #62
Astronuc said:
I thought the 'dog' thing was Pavlov. :biggrin:
so, it was possibly a Pavlovian slip? :smile:
 
  • #63
Math Is Hard said:
so, it was possibly a Pavlovian slip? :smile:

:smile: *drool* Maybe. :smile:
 
  • #64
Moonbear said:
:smile: *drool* Maybe. :smile:


When PFers make an intellectual joke...


Why can't normal people be like this? :cry:
 
  • #65
franznietzsche said:
When PFers make an intellectual joke...


Why can't normal people be like this? :cry:

Normal people don't find it funny, they don't even get the joke. Watch what you wish for, because if normal people were like this, we'd all be normal, and what fun is that? :-p
 
  • #66
Moonbear said:
Normal people don't find it funny, they don't even get the joke. Watch what you wish for, because if normal people were like this, we'd all be normal, and what fun is that? :-p


Given that i wouldn't inevitably despise 9 out of every ten attractive women i meet, very. Very, very fun.
 
  • #67
franznietzsche said:
Given that i wouldn't inevitably despise 9 out of every ten attractive women i meet, very. Very, very fun.

Meh, you say that now, but if all the women were like that, you'd get bored of it pretty quickly. You'd be craving the morons just for variety. :smile:
 
  • #68
franznietzsche said:
Given that i wouldn't inevitably despise 9 out of every ten attractive women i meet, very. Very, very fun.

You still got that one woman.
 
  • #69
Chrono said:
You still got that one woman.


That remains to be seen. Sure, she's there, whether or not i actually have her though, is another issue entirely. We'll see. 12 1/2 weeks till summer.
 
  • #70
franznietzsche said:
That remains to be seen. Sure, she's there, whether or not i actually have her though, is another issue entirely. We'll see. 12 1/2 weeks till summer.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you. Though, while you're at it, there's a PF babe here who's your age and she's taken a little notice of you...when are you going to post a picture of yourself for her? (In that other thread there...see...she's flirting a little.) :biggrin:
 

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