Why Must the Image of U Be Open in \(\mathbf{R}^n\)?

In summary, a chart or coordinate system consists of a subset U of a set M, along with a one-to-one map \phi :U\rightarrow\mathbf{R}^n, such that the image \phi(U) is open in \mathbf{R}^n. The motivation for demanding that the image of U under \phi be open is to enable calculus on the coordinate domains by doing calculus on the coordinate representations of the coordinate domains under the coordinate map. Additionally, from a topological standpoint, making the image open has many advantages such as characterizing locally euclidean in terms of open subsets or open balls, which leads to nice properties of topological manifolds. While the map \phi:U\
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My textbook says that "a chart or coordinate system consists of a subset [itex]U[/itex] of a set [itex]M[/itex], along with a one-to-one map [itex]\phi :U\rightarrow\mathbf{R}^n[/itex], such that the image [itex]\phi(U)[/itex] is open in [itex]\mathbf{R}^n[/itex]."

What's the motivation for demanding that the image of [itex]U[/itex] under [itex]\phi[/itex] be open?
 
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We do calculus on the coordinate domains by doing calculus on the coordinate representations of the coordinate domains under the coordinate map so a primary motivation for making them open is the same reason we make domains of regions in euclidean space open when doing calculus. From a purely topological standpoint, there are many advantages because we can show the characterization of locally euclidean in terms of open subsets of euclidean space is equivalent to the characterization of locally euclidean in terms of open balls which leads to nice properties of topological manifolds such as having a countable basis of pre - compact coordinate balls (and even smooth ones if you have an atlas).
 
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dEdt said:
My textbook says that "a chart or coordinate system consists of a subset [itex]U[/itex] of a set [itex]M[/itex], along with a one-to-one map [itex]\phi :U\rightarrow\mathbf{R}^n[/itex], such that the image [itex]\phi(U)[/itex] is open in [itex]\mathbf{R}^n[/itex]."

What's the motivation for demanding that the image of [itex]U[/itex] under [itex]\phi[/itex] be open?

AFAIK, the map [itex]\phi[/itex] is usually defined to be a diffeomorphism, which is a closed map (as well as an open map) . Doesn't your book define [itex]\phi[/itex] that way?
 
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Bacle do you mean a homeomorphism? The notion of diffeomorphism between smooth manifolds is defined using the diffeomorphic nature of the transition maps between coordinate domains so the notion of coordinate maps being diffeomorphisms doesn't make sense a priori when first constructing a smooth atlas for a manifold. Also, you can start with just injective mappings for the charts making up the differentiable structure and there is a naturally induced topology that makes them homeomorphisms anyways. See for example Do Carmo Riemannian Geometry chapter 0.
 
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Right, I misread your question, my bad. I know we pre- and post- compose with chart maps to determine properties of maps between manifolds.
 
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Bacle2 said:
AFAIK, the map [itex]\phi[/itex] is usually defined to be a diffeomorphism, which is a closed map (as well as an open map) . Doesn't your book define [itex]\phi[/itex] that way?

The map [itex]\phi:U\rightarrow \phi(U)[/itex] is a homeomorphism. But the map [itex]\phi:U\rightarrow \mathbb{R}^n[/itex] does not need to be a homeomorphism. So while [itex]\phi(U)[/itex] is certainly closed in itself, it needs not be open in [itex]\mathbb{R}^n[/itex]. We do require it to be open in [itex]\mathbb{R}^n[/itex].
 
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micromass said:
The map [itex]\phi:U\rightarrow \phi(U)[/itex] is a homeomorphism. But the map [itex]\phi:U\rightarrow \mathbb{R}^n[/itex] does not need to be a homeomorphism. So while [itex]\phi(U)[/itex] is certainly closed in itself, it needs not be open in [itex]\mathbb{R}^n[/itex]. We do require it to be open in [itex]\mathbb{R}^n[/itex].

Please check my last post. I misread the question.
 

FAQ: Why Must the Image of U Be Open in \(\mathbf{R}^n\)?

Why do we use open sets in chart mappings?

In mathematics, open sets are used to define the notion of continuity, which is essential in chart mappings. By using open sets, we can ensure that the mapping between two spaces is continuous, meaning that small changes in one space will result in small changes in the other space.

What is the significance of open sets in chart mappings?

Open sets allow us to define the local behavior of a function or mapping. This is important in chart mappings because it allows us to study the behavior of the function in a small neighborhood, rather than the entire space.

Can we use closed sets in chart mappings instead of open sets?

No, closed sets do not have the same properties as open sets and therefore cannot be used in the same way in chart mappings. Closed sets do not allow for the same level of precision in studying the local behavior of a function.

How do open sets make chart mappings more flexible?

Open sets allow for a more flexible and general definition of chart mappings. This is because they can be defined in any topological space, whereas closed sets are more restrictive and can only be defined in certain spaces.

Are there any drawbacks to using open sets in chart mappings?

One potential drawback of using open sets in chart mappings is that they can be more complex and difficult to work with than closed sets. This is because open sets have more properties and can behave differently depending on the topology of the space.

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