Can Mathematical Models Explain Scenes from The Day the Earth Stood Still?

[difalcojr]

Agreed. Disturbing also was that the silhouette was encoded, instead of the modest, naked couple and soon-to-be baby photograph, seen on page 74 of the book. It wasn't porn at all, a much better representative picture of humans. Probably can't post that. Get the book, it's good. NOT the record! Don't get the record.

Good enough for the birds, bees, ants and animals, good enough for us. Sure.

Flip the gargantuan odds we are here at all, to its inverse. That makes it gargantuan odds that we are exactly here and now. Because indeed we are! Found my hippy hat too, haha.

So, here's an add-on to the ma-pa-baby topic. One I was thinking of putting today in a music thread, but it fits OK here. Jorma Kaukonen, guitar, in the dark sunglasses. I know a woman who taped this over and over onto a portable cassette player, so she could listen to it over and over and over, she liked it that much. She also saw a UFO up close, too close, one late night on a lonesome highway.

 

[pinball1970]

Agreed. Disturbing also was that the silhouette was encoded, instead of the modest, naked couple and soon-to-be baby photograph, seen on page 74 of the book. It wasn't porn at all, a much better representative picture of humans. Probably can't post that. Get the book, it's good. NOT the record! Don't get the record.

Good enough for the birds, bees, ants and animals, good enough for us. Sure.

Flip the gargantuan odds we are here at all, to its inverse. That makes it gargantuan odds that we are exactly here and now. Because indeed we are! Found my hippy hat too, haha.

So, here's an add-on to the ma-pa-baby topic. One I was thinking of putting today in a music thread, but it fits OK here. Jorma Kaukonen, guitar, in the dark sunglasses. I know a woman who taped this over and over onto a portable cassette player, so she could listen to it over and over and over, she liked it that much. She also saw a UFO up close, too close, one late night on a lonesome highway.

Brings us full circle. The whole point of TDTESS was mankind better sort itself out or we (the superior aliens) will zap you out.

 

[gmax137]

Jorma Kaukonen, guitar, in the dark sunglasses. I know a woman who taped this over and over onto a portable cassette player, so she could listen to it over and over and over, she liked it that much.

Embryonic Journey, one of my all time favorites.

 

[pinball1970]

Embryonic Journey, one of my all time favorites.

Amazing playing, I did not know they were players at all.

 

[gmax137]

YouTube showed me this one after the Airplane version. Amazing!


By Peter Green. No, not that Peter Green.

 

[pinball1970]

YouTube showed me this one after the Airplane version. Amazing!


By Peter Green. No, not that Peter Green.

D tuning? Edit or just down tuned bottom E. Beautiful claw hammer though.
Edit 2. Wow, amazing.

 

[difalcojr]

Voyagers' LP Record. From "Murmurs of the Earth", 1978, by Sagan, Drake, Druyan, Ferris, Lomberg, and Sagan. Part 3a. Sounds. The Greetings. Waldheim and Carter had their messages both encoded and spoken.

By my count 51 greetings in human languages spoken in 1977. Of the 196 known languages listed. Representing more than 87% of the world in those 51 chosen. Recorded in 2 sessions at Cornell.

Of note were these orators:
Frederick M. Ahl: spoke greetings in Greek, Latin, and Welsh.
David I. Owen: spoke in Sumerian, Akkadian, and Hittite. Also, in Hebrew and Aramaic, Shalom and Shalam.
Nick Sagan: "Hello from the children of planet Earth."
The long whale greeting.

Otherwise, the greetings were pretty standard stuff. A few odd ones:
Burmese: "Are you well?"
Indonesian: "Goodnight ladies and gentlemen. Goodbye and see you next time."
and the Urdu beginning: "Peace on you." Am sure the aliens understood all of this. Sure.

 

[difalcojr]

Amazing playing, I did not know they were players at all.

Here's another one by Jorma Kaukonen you might like too from his album. Yes, he was considered great by the other musicians, I think. "Midnight in Milpitas." Milpitas is a city south of San Francisco, at the geographic bottom of the Bay, now home to the football 49ers stadium.

 

[difalcojr]

Voyagers' LP Record. From "Murmurs of the Earth", 1978, by Sagan, Drake, Druyan, Ferris, Lomberg, and Sagan. Part 3b. Sounds. Music. 1977. Here's a list of the 27 songs sent 'up, up, and away' on the golden record voyage.

1. Germany, Bach, Brandenburg Concerto No.2 in F, First Movement, Munich Bach Orchestra, Karl Richter, conductor.
2. Java, court gamelan, "Kinds of Flowers".
3. Senegal, percussion.
4. Zaire, Pygmy girls' initiation song.
5. Australia, Aborigine songs, "Morning Star" and "Devil Bird".
6. Mexico, Lorenzo Barcelata and the Mariachi Mexico, "El Cascabel".
7. U.S., Chuck Berry, "Johnny B. Goode".
8. New Guinea, men's house song.
9. Japan, shakuhachi, Coro Yamaguchi, "Cranes in Their Nest".
10. Germany, Bach, Arthur Grumiaux, Partita No.3 in E major for violin, "Gavotte en rondeaux".
11. Austria, Mozart, Edda Moser, soprano, Queen of the Night aria No.14, from The Magic Flute, Bavarian State Opera, Wolfgang Saivallish, conductor.
12. Georgia S.S.R., chorus, "Tchakrulo", Radio Moscow.
13. Peru, panpipes and drum, collected by Casa de la Cultura, Lima.
14. U.S., Louis Armstrong and his Hot Seven, "Melancholy Blues".
15. Azerbaijan S.S.R., bagpipes, Radio Moscow.
16. U.S.S.R., Stravinsky, Rite of Spring, Sacrificial Dance, Columbia Symphony Orch., Igor Stravinsky, cond.
17. Germany, Bach, Prelude and Fugue in C, No.1, from The Well-Tempered Clavier, Bk 2, Glenn Gould, Piano.
18. Germany, Beethoven, Fifth Symphony, First Movement, Philharmonia Orchestra, Otto Klemperer, cond.
19. Bulgaria, Valya Balkanska, "Izlel je Delyo Hagdutin".
20 U.S., Navajo, "Night Chant".
21. England, Holborne, "Paueans,, Galliards, Almains and Other Short Aeirs", from The Fairie Round, David Munrow and the Early Music Consort of London.
22. Solomon Islands, panpipes.
23. Peru, wedding song.
24. China, ch'in, Kuan P'ing-hu, "Flowing Streams".
25. India, raga, Surshri Kesar Bai Kerkar, "Jaat Kahan Ho".
26. U.S., Blind Willie Johnson, "Dark was the Night".
27. Germany, Beethoven, String Quartet No.13 in B flat, Opus 130, Cavatina, performed by Budapest String Quartet.

All are available online now to listen to, so you won't have to buy an expensive record or a cheaper CD if you don't want to. You be the judge whether you will need to add this "gem" to your collection. Or not.
Good luck.

Book is worth a read. Lots of trivial, interesting info. Might be useful for a Jeopardy show or a cocktail party.

 

[difalcojr]

 

[difalcojr]

Voyagers' LP Record. From "Murmurs of the Earth", 1978, by Sagan, Drake, Druyan, Ferris, Lomberg, and Sagan. Part 4a1. Miscellaneous.

Voyager's launch in 1977 was the year of the 100th anniversary of Thomas Edison's invention of the phonograph record.

1977 was also the year that Peter Goldmark, the inventor of the long-playing record, the LP, died tragically in an auto accident.

Sagan had asked SF writers Asimov, Clarke, and Heinlein what message they would send on the mission. Asimov's answer isn't given, but it is interesting to note the contrast in messages suggested by Clarke and Heinlein. I think the contrast is seen in their SF classic novels too.

Clarke, in a telephone message from Sri Lanka, recommended this message, "Please leave me alone, let me go on to the stars." In his novel "2001" this did not happen for the members of that mission.

Heinlein proposed a radar corner reflector be attached so the record could be found easier. That follows his writings on full contact with aliens. As in "Stranger in a Strange Land" and other novels.

B.M. Oliver, VP of R&D at Hewlett-Packard said this, "There is only an infinitesimal chance that the plaque will ever be seen by a single extraterrestrial, but it will certainly be seen by billions of terrestrials. Its real function, therefore, is to appeal to and expand the human spirit, and to make contact with extraterrestrial intelligence a welcome expectation of mankind."

Hope so. Don't think billions saw or even ever heard of the plaque, book, or record yet. I hadn't. Billions might have seen HP products, though. Maybe now billions will be online on the internet and on PF, reading an online book report on the ever-ongoing Voyager II mission.

 

[difalcojr]

Voyagers' LP Record. From "Murmurs of the Earth", 1978, by Sagan, Drake, Druyan, Ferris, Lomberg, and Sagan. Part 3c. Sounds. Last thoughts on sounds and music.

There was no translation given for the longest message on the record, that of the whale. What's with that?

Think the best choice for R&R music was @gmax137 in an earlier post: "I wanted them to put the Stones, "2,000 Light Years From Home". (Very slightly edited here.) But he said they weren't listening to him, sadly.

Sagan et al wanted Beatles "Here Comes the Sun". Beatles agreed, but then copyright complications ensued.

Not sure if any others were asked: Byrds' "Mr. Spaceman"; 5th Dimension, "Up, Up, and Away"; Steve Miller Band, "Space Cowboy".
My pick now would have been Bobby Darin, "Multiplication" as a proper message from the human race.

 

[Hornbein]

Here's another one by Jorma Kaukonen you might like too from his album. Yes, he was considered great by the other musicians, I think. "Midnight in Milpitas." Milpitas is a city south of San Francisco, at the geographic bottom of the Bay, now home to the football 49ers stadium.

Milpitas is just north of San Jose, about an hour's drive from San Francisco.

 

[difalcojr]

Yes, Indeed. And San Jose, home of Dionne Warwick. Also, birthplace of SF hero Amadeo Peter (A.P.) Giannini, banker, born 1870.