Is Obama fueling the Gate's incident?

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In summary, the conversation revolved around the incident involving Harvard scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Cambridge police Sgt. James Crowley. President Obama publicly stated that the police "acted stupidly" in arresting Gates, but later clarified that he did not have all the facts. The officer involved had taught a class on racial profiling and was praised by his superiors. There were also discussions about Gates' behavior and whether or not it was appropriate for him to be arrested. Some felt that the incident was not important, while others saw it as a perfect storm of misunderstandings and bad luck.
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Count Iblis said:
Not only is there abuse of power by police, there is also abuse of power by prosecutors, http://blog.law.northwestern.edu/bluhm/2009/02/latest-illinois-exoneree-alan-beaman.html"

I'm sure if it was a black cop white person scenario where the white person treated the black cop rudely just because the cop was black and he was white it would be a whole new ball game right?
 
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turbo-1 said:
Being treated as a break-in suspect in my own home and having a cop come into my home uninvited with no warrant would have ticked me off. Here he is, an older man who walks with the aid of a cane, who answers the front door to find himself a suspect in a break-in.
He was more than just a suspect, he was guilty. He, and his driver, physically forced the front door to gain entry.

If you would get angry under such circumstances, then you sir have a serious problem.

Still, Crowley treated him as a suspect, not as a possible victim of a break-in.
Of course. Not only did he had eyewitness testimony that the people who broke in haven't yet left, but Gates was being combative too.

Gates had a pretty good reason to feel that race might have been a factor in his treatment,
Gates was already convinced race was a factor upon the initial greeting when he was asked to come outside. (okay, he was convinced he was in real danger -- I assume that to include thinking racial motivation)

because seeing a ~60 year old white man or woman calmly answering the door while making a phone call would probably have prompted the officer to stand down and ask if there had been a break-in or a robbery or any other trouble at the house.
Do you have evidence? Or is this sheer speculation.
 
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This thread is going way off topic (off topic posts deleted). If and when Obama apologizes, then we can discuss that. Closed.
 
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Update: Mass. police to release 911 call in Gates arrest
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090727/ap_on_re_us/us_harvard_scholar_calle

Orginially this story was: Cambridge police: Race not mentioned in 911 call
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/6548967.html

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Lucia Whalen placed the 911 call July 16, saying she saw two men on Gates' front porch who appeared to be trying to force open the front door. . . .

In the statement issued Sunday by attorney Wendy Murphy, Whalen — who has not spoken publicly — said she only saw the backs of the two men and did not know their race when she made the call. Murphy said Whalen, who works nearby, called because she had been aware of recent break-ins in the area and wanted to correct "misinformation" suggesting that she placed the call because the men on the porch were black.

"Contrary to published reports that a 'white woman' called 911 and reported seeing 'two black men' trying to gain entry into Mr. Gates home, the woman, who has olive colored skin and is of Portuguese descent, told the 911 operator that she observed 'two men' at the home," Murphy's statement read.

Murphy said Whalen has been very upset by news reports she believes have unfairly depicted her as a racist.

"She doesn't live in the area. She is by no means the entitled white neighbor ... That has been the theme in the blogs and the implication in some of the mainstream news media," Murphy said in a phone interview Monday.

"She didn't know their race, and it's very clear that she called not because of what they looked like but because of what they were doing."
. . . .
This article dispels some of the rumors and innuendo surrounding the incident.

It's important to wait for facts and not rush to judgement based on hearsay.
 
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