Perfectly Inelastic Disk and Stick Collision- Angular Speed

AI Thread Summary
A 2.0 kg disk traveling at 3.0 m/s collides with a 1.0 kg stick on frictionless ice, resulting in a perfectly inelastic collision where the disk adheres to the stick. The moment of inertia for the stick is given as 1.33 kg*m², and the problem requires finding the angular speed of the combined system post-collision. Initial calculations led to an angular speed of 0.90 rad/s, but the correct answer is 1.0 rad/s. The discussion highlights the importance of choosing the correct point for calculating moments, suggesting the combined center of mass for simplicity. Ultimately, the participants clarify the approach, leading to the correct solution.
bcca
Messages
9
Reaction score
0
I think I'm not understanding something about this problem. Can someone help me out?

Homework Statement


A 2.0 kg disk traveling a 3.0 m/s strikes a 1.0 kg stick of length 4.0 m that is lying flat on nearly frictionless ice. The disk strikes the endpoint of the stick, at a distance r = 2.0 m from the stick's center. Suppose the collision is perfectly inelastic so that the disk adheres to the stick at the endpoint at which it strikes. The moment of inertia of the stick about its center of mass is 1.33 kg*m2. Find the angular speed of the system after the collision.

Homework Equations


(I think) Parallel axis theorem: I= Icm + mr2
L= r cross p
L= I*omega
m= mass disk

The Attempt at a Solution


L = L'
r cross p = I(system)*omega
mvr = (I(stick) + I(disk) + mvr2)*omega
mvr = (I(stick) + (1/2)mr2 + mr2)*omega
omega = mvr/(I(stick) + 2/3(mr2))
omega = 2.0kg(3.0m/s)(2.0m)/(1.33kg*m2+1.5(2.0kg)(2.0m)2)
omega= .90 rad/s

The answer is 1.0 rad/s.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
hi bcca! :smile:

(have an omega: ω :wink:)

nope, start again …

you need to decide which point you're taking moments about

the easiest point is the combined centre of mass (if you take it about anywhere else, you'll need to add mrc.o.m. x vc.o.m. to get the final angular momentum) …

what do you get? :smile:
(and you can assume the disk is a point)
 
I got it! Thanks :)
 
Kindly see the attached pdf. My attempt to solve it, is in it. I'm wondering if my solution is right. My idea is this: At any point of time, the ball may be assumed to be at an incline which is at an angle of θ(kindly see both the pics in the pdf file). The value of θ will continuously change and so will the value of friction. I'm not able to figure out, why my solution is wrong, if it is wrong .
TL;DR Summary: I came across this question from a Sri Lankan A-level textbook. Question - An ice cube with a length of 10 cm is immersed in water at 0 °C. An observer observes the ice cube from the water, and it seems to be 7.75 cm long. If the refractive index of water is 4/3, find the height of the ice cube immersed in the water. I could not understand how the apparent height of the ice cube in the water depends on the height of the ice cube immersed in the water. Does anyone have an...
Thread 'A bead-mass oscillatory system problem'
I can't figure out how to find the velocity of the particle at 37 degrees. Basically the bead moves with velocity towards right let's call it v1. The particle moves with some velocity v2. In frame of the bead, the particle is performing circular motion. So v of particle wrt bead would be perpendicular to the string. But how would I find the velocity of particle in ground frame? I tried using vectors to figure it out and the angle is coming out to be extremely long. One equation is by work...
Back
Top