Thread Killer Champions: Franzbear & Moonbear

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In summary, Franzbear is the most prolific thread killer in the forum. He has killed at least 12 threads and is likely responsible for 21 more. His ability to kill threads is not a direct outcome of the evidence (number of last posts). You have to at least factor in the total number of posts by each person (posts in GD) to get a more accurate representation of the killer instinct. Franz and Moonie have so many posts here, they are more likely to be the winning killers. You have to divide the number of kills by the total number of posts during the same period to get a corrected distribution.
  • #911
If you have to think that hard, perhaps it's not a lame comic.
 
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  • #912
http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=433
 
  • #913
http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=432
 
  • #914
Okay, I'll explain it to you: the point of the comic I said was "interesting" is that art's value is tied to its culture, as illustrated by how old black-and-white films don't carry the same meaning today that they did when made; so immortality by art is a fool's game. True or not (I'd say it's partly true), when presented as a comic, in that format... it's interesting.
 
  • #915
Bartholomew said:
If you have to think that hard, perhaps it's not a lame comic.

Who wants to spend a long time analyzing a comic to find the humor in it? Okay, just this once, I'll humor you. You can go ahead and explain it, but if there's nothing more to it than the contrast between dinosaurs, which are extinct (and a quote about the past being gone), and a dinosaur talking about living forever through art, I'm...hmmm...I'll...I'm thinking...I'm going to have to get the PF Sisters to help me with a suitably evil punishment for you, maybe get Tsu in here to help me torture you properly. :devil:
 
  • #916
Already explained it.
 
  • #917
Bartholomew said:
Okay, I'll explain it to you: the point of the comic I said was "interesting" is that art's value is tied to its culture, as illustrated by how old black-and-white films don't carry the same meaning today that they did when made; so immortality by art is a fool's game. True or not (I'd say it's partly true), when presented as a comic, in that format... it's interesting.

I think you're reading WAY more into that than is there. Have you watched black and white films? They're still great and they still have the same meaning.
 
  • #918
You can disagree with it, and I don't agree entirely, but that's clearly the point of the comic. When someone breaks a quote up like that, you know it's important, and that's the way it's relevant.
 
  • #919
The quote just stated that old films do not carry the same meaning today; saying that is not "reading into it" at all. The only real reading to do is relating the quote to the comic, and there's only one good way to do that.
 
  • #920
If you think that Dinosaur Comics is not the kind of comic to go into that kind of depth, read some of those I've linked to since... or just read http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=426.

explanation of it in white (read it first)
Hopefully you didn't read the last panel until you got to the last panel. The humor is that as the strip begins the characters speak pretty "left-brain-sounding," responding to ideas solely on the basis of the idea, which is unlike the way people talk normally but--here's the point--is the style of the strip. Then you get to the last panel and you find that the idea of the strip and most of its material is straight out of a textbook. It makes you do a double-take: at first you thought the strip was proceeding as the others, and then you suddenly realize it had a completely different focus. Not terribly funny--tone in keeping with the rest of the strip, in fact--but I think the explanation was needed.
 
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  • #921
Bartholomew said:
The quote just stated that old films do not carry the same meaning today; saying that is not "reading into it" at all. The only real reading to do is relating the quote to the comic, and there's only one good way to do that.
Films that were trendy in their day of course will seem outdated now. But there are "classic" films, true "art" if that's what you want to call it that will forever be as meaningful and poignant as the day they were made.
 
  • #922
Bartholomew said:
The quote just stated that old films do not carry the same meaning today; saying that is not "reading into it" at all. The only real reading to do is relating the quote to the comic, and there's only one good way to do that.

Nope, the quote actually refers to the fact that films are the best medium for preserving history.

See this site about the book the quote came from to better understand the meaning of the quote:
http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/ROSVIS.html
 
  • #923
Bartholomew said:
If you think that Dinosaur Comics is not the kind of comic to go into that kind of depth, read some of those I've linked to since... or just read http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=426.

There's nothing redeeming about them. So, the artist is showing off that he's read books. Big deal. There's no humor, they aren't satire, they just state fact, and not even anything novel or interesting or put into a different perspective than what anybody would already know. There's no hook, just someone lecturing through the medium of a cartoon dinosaur.
 
  • #924
Evo said:
Films that were trendy in their day of course will seem outdated now. But there are "classic" films, true "art" if that's what you want to call it that will forever be as meaningful and poignant as the day they were made.

Now, that would have made for good satire, to suggest using art as a medium for attaining immortality with a contrast to an obscure, trendy "artist" who has been long since forgotten. But, using reference to classic black and white films, which are long-enduring and truly have immortalized those within them, fails to be satirical.
 
  • #925
I posted an explanation of that one too in the post I linked to it in.

Whatever the main topic of the book was, the fact is that that quote was about how when we see old films, we are peculiarly aware of the things their culture lacked in comparison to ours. The author's overall thesis may have concerned film as a historical record, but in that particular quote he makes the point that as an artistic medium our views of it change. In any case, the comic creator selected that quote to use alone; he did not expect us to be familiar with the book it came from, and meant the quote for what it actually said.
 
  • #926
Look, you can argue against it all you like; one man's satire is another man's unconvincing jumble. The fact remains that it was intended as satire, and so it is.

It would not have been so good if it merely poked fun at forgotten artists, because who is to say that T Rex would become one of those? Perhaps he would, perhaps not. But to point out the fickleness of even a medium as relatively immortal as film is to make a point that would apply to any of T Rex's artistic endeavors.

And film Is changeable, as in the quote. We do see it differently from those who saw it first.
 
  • #927
http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=422 (for a change of tone)
 
  • #928
http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=418
 
  • #929
http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=414 hehh hehh
 
  • #930
Bart, give it up. You don't need to link to every comic on the site. You've made your point, whether anyone agrees or not, and linked to more than enough of the comics for anyone who is interested. Try something new, like actually conversing.
 
  • #931
http://www.qwantz.com/index.pl?comic=413 Now here's one even I can't figure out. It starts out relevant to your banana-seat-bike episode, but then... I don't know. (if you haven't read so many of these comics, the voice coming from the sky is God)
 
  • #932
Oh, it was a guest cartoonist. That's probably why... still don't get it though.
 
  • #933
Yeah, you're right, moonbear, this is getting old... or else it's just getting late. So, in parting,


Overwhelming, massive force--the giant hand of God--pulls impurity out of you like a fine net catches the scum out of pondwater. Your body becomes transparent and clear.


A vast, warm light passes through you like through a raindrop.


Basking in the light, You feel a great weight lift off your shoulders. You want to take a deep breath. You feel loose.


You feel surrounded by warmth and prayer as you relax into God's love.
 
  • #934
You already posted that. Is it your original work, or are you planning on citing the author of it?
 
  • #935
WHat have you been doing with my thread! I turn my back and

*BOOM!*​

It's gone! More than 200 posts later I find it again! All disheveled and worn out. It had to listen to Bart most of that time.

:biggrin: Have a heart people.
 
  • #936
No,Artman,300 useless posts you've been missing...It's not your thread.It's still undecided.

Daniel.
 
  • #937
Pff Artman's thread, please. As Dex said, you missed about 300 posts. You were not even in the running for the 2000, what a disgrace. You should just turn your head and leave here in shame :Smile:
 
  • #938
I posted #2000...:approve:

Daniel.

P.S.I'm so happy.
 
  • #939
Besides, it was my thread for hours. I was stuck listening to Bart all night about his Dinosaurs now (they've managed to squash most of the MIH bugs though). The poor thread would have been committing suicide if left alone with those comics.
 
  • #940
What does the avatar mean...?Is it a cat there?

Daniel.
 
  • #941
lol, nice avatar MB!

And yes, the thread is back in good hands: Mine!
 
  • #942
Wash your hands...

Daniel.

P.S.Keep'em off my thread.
 
  • #943
No, moonbear, I have not already posted that. Yes, it is my creation. I've altered it slightly from the first time I posted it in a way that I think makes it better.
 
  • #944
Considering the original is 100s of posts back, I wasn't going to compare word for word, but it sounded similar. I've never had much of a taste for poetry. Nothing wrong with poetry, just not my cup o' tea. I assume that's what it was meant to be. I guess it's like taste in art. I can appreciate some poetry with clear meter and rhyme; probably appeals to my left brain more than my right brain. When it's free verse, I just don't get it. I think it's the way some people enjoy paintings that contain realism and follow geometric principles in perspective, but just don't see anything in abstract art, though I do appreciate the humor in dadaism.
 
  • #945
dextercioby said:
What does the avatar mean...?Is it a cat there?

Daniel.

Yeah, unfortunately it's hard to see detail in a tiny avatar. It's a kitten with a rifle. :biggrin: I just thought it was too cute to not make into an avatar, especially while I'm trying to kill a thread.
 

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