Why scientifically, do we need procreation as a species?

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In summary, Moonbear believes that sex should not be limited to "only between husband and wife." He also believes that rape should be accepted under certain circumstances.
  • #141
Les Sleeth said:
But I am quite certain CI is awesomely effective for the CONSCIOUS, conscientous, attentive lover.
Do you have statistics to back up this assertion, or are you going to continue talking out your ass?

- Warren
 
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  • #142
I think sex is just for fun.

"Physics is like sex: sure it has practical reasons, but that's not why we do it."
-Richard Feynman

Also just to note, what Les Sleeth last said is true, but it applies to guys with girlfriends too, or even just sexual friendships.
 
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  • #143
There was a case here that a woman who sought a doctor to Tighten her vagina, because her husband had lose interest in making love with her due to her vagina is loose after being old and giving birth to several children,
unfortunately, the doctor gave her too much dose of anaesthetic,
she couldn't wake up and died.

SEX can kill a woman, beware!
 
  • #144
Yeah, Saint, that happens nearly everyday.

- Warren
 
  • #145
I'm sure I've nearly died from sex several times. Where is Humanino? I have heard that in France they colloquially call an orgasm a "little death". Is that true?
 
  • #146
I believe one type of Tantric sex involves never ejaculating nor achieving orgasm as a way to awaken consciousness. From what I read, this is a way of preserving the life energy to prolong and heighten the experience.
 
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  • #147
I don't know if I'm just tired or older or less testosterony than I used to be, but I enjoy making love. I'm not interested in nasty sex, don't want another one night stand. I like falling in and being in love.
 
  • #148
The_Professional said:
I believe one type of Tantric sex involves never ejaculating nor achieving orgasm as a way to awaken consciousness. From what I read, this is a way of preserving the life energy to prolong and heighten the experience.


But if she doesn't orgasm i can't hear her moaning and screaming my name, and where'sthe fun in that?
 
  • #149
franznietzsche said:
But if she doesn't orgasm i can't hear her moaning and screaming my name, and where'sthe fun in that?

I didn't say it was fun :smile: when I was writing that I was thinking more on the male side holding back
 
  • #150
Ok, so she IS funny :lol:
 
  • #151
We need sex because we need something for Saint to obsess over.
 
  • #152
SEX is instinct,
but need moral control
 
  • #153
Math Is Hard said:
I'm sure I've nearly died from sex several times. Where is Humanino? I have heard that in France they colloquially call an orgasm a "little death". Is that true?

Yeah, it is. I learned that my going to an art gallery and seeing a piece by the Chapman brothers...
Don't have a clue as to why they do though :confused:
 
  • #154
chroot said:
Do you have statistics to back up this assertion, or are you going to continue talking out your ass?

Personal statistics: Practiced it from age 16 (learned it from my first lover, who was older and taught me). I was unusually active, growing up in the hippie era and being in the military overseas. Later practiced with two wives for about 32 years. Had one accidental pregnancy with first wife who at first insisted we use rhythm after she reacted badly to birth control pills. After than I went back to withdrawal and had no more problems.

Of course, those aren't comprehensive statistics. The problem is intepreting the statistics. I've seen quite a range in the statistics for the effectiveness of withdrawl. Cal Poly's student services, for example, reports 70-75% effectiveness. Caromont's hospital rep states:

"Withdrawal has an effectiveness rate of 81-96%. -- Amy Scholten, MPH

What can account for that? In virtually every report I've read, the emphasis is placed on the ability of the couple to practice correctly. Yes, the presence sperm in preseminal fluid is listed as a danger, but is that the main reason for the failure?

Consider this report from the National Center for Disease Prevention and Health Promotion. http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/


Very few barriers exist to discourage couples from using withdrawal as a contraceptive method. The primary barrier is probably the attitude among health professionals that withdrawal is ineffective as a contraceptive. This attitude may be transmitted to men and women in the
community. [my emphasis] In reality, withdrawal is a reasonably effective method that can be used by couples who wish to space births and do not have contraindications to pregnancy or extremely strong desires to avoid
pregnancy. . . .

Although coitus interruptus has often been criticized as ineffective, it
probably offers a level of contraceptive protection similar to that pro-
vided by vaginal barrier methods. Its effectiveness depends largely on
the male's ability to withdraw before he ejaculates. How effective the
method would be if used consistently and correctly is unknown. Our
best guess is that about 4% of perfect users would fail in the initial
year. Among typical users, about 19% would fail during the first year.

Notice it says "How effective the method would be if used consistently and correctly is unknown." My position is that control is the key. I didn't say this before (my wife just reminded me of it) but we combine withdrawal with rhythm, which would help increase the effectiveness even more.


Now let's consider your comment to me that I was talking out of my ass. If you read my statement, I said I was certain of the effectiveness of CI, which was how I purposely put it to indicate it was a personal opinion. I still am certain of it. Nothing I've read has made me change my mind that the failure rate is primarily due to lack of control. Since studies seem to be for the general population and not for the conscientous practitioner (which was the qualifier I put on it), I don't see how the "out your ass" barb was justified.
 
  • #155
Math Is Hard said:
I'm sure I've nearly died from sex several times. Where is Humanino? I have heard that in France they colloquially call an orgasm a "little death". Is that true?
:smile: :smile: :smile:
It depends on your partner really :wink:
But for sure, it is a great way of living and leaving this wold :biggrin:
 
  • #156
humanino said:
:smile: :smile: :smile:
It depends on your partner really :wink:
But for sure, it is a great way of living and leaving this wold :biggrin:


You got to die sometime, it might as well be in the sack.
 
  • #157
Most people failed to enjoy sex for the First time,
because they are not familiar with the Technique to do sex.
I took me about 2 weeks to get familiar with it after wedding.
 
  • #158
Saint said:
Most people failed to enjoy sex for the First time,
because they are not familiar with the Technique to do sex.

Most people are too caught up with the techniques, and not much on the intimacy, feeling and deep connection.
 
  • #159
They're as many techniques as there are lovers.
 
  • #160
Loren Booda said:
They're as many techniques as there are lovers.

And yet never enough! What fun it is to have a partner with whom you can explore as many of those as possible, and then make up some more of your own!
 
  • #161
Saint said:
Most people failed to enjoy sex for the First time,
because they are not familiar with the Technique to do sex.
I took me about 2 weeks to get familiar with it after wedding.


I had a great first time.

In the bed...in the shower...she was the local beauty queen...ity was fun,andi need to not post drunk


good night ya'll
 
  • #162
franznietzsche said:
I had a great first time.

In the bed...in the shower...she was the local beauty queen...ity was fun,andi need to not post drunk


good night ya'll

LOL! I always thought such things came naturally too.
 
  • #163
Moonbear said:
LOL! I always thought such things came naturally too.


waIT...hwich part?

the confessions,or the activities? or the postiung while far from sober? I'm so confused...
 
  • #164
franznietzsche said:
waIT...hwich part?

the confessions,or the activities? or the postiung while far from sober? I'm so confused...

You're very funny when drunk! :smile: I meant the techniques. At least the basic technique anyway.

Why are you drunk on a Sunday night? Or should I not ask why?
 
  • #165
Moonbear said:
You're very funny when drunk! :smile: I meant the techniques. At least the basic technique anyway.

Why are you drunk on a Sunday night? Or should I not ask why?

Well being drunk on a sunday is a combination of opprotunity + 3 week depression over getting turkey dropped (thanksgiving break up).


technique? i assume that means activity. I'm very confused.
 
  • #166
franznietzsche said:
Well being drunk on a sunday is a combination of opprotunity + 3 week depression over getting turkey dropped (thanksgiving break up).

Sorry to hear about the break-up. Those always suck. Well, you may have noticed, there are a few new women on the board here. Maybe it was just meant to be so that you can hook up with one them. :wink:

technique? i assume that means activity. I'm very confused.

Oh boy, I'll explain it to you when you're sober. :smile: Don't forget to take a few aspirin before you go to sleep tonight and keep a pitcher of water on your bedside. You're going to be hurting in the morning.
 
  • #167
Gatorade works miracles against hangovers, I know I've tried it. It's cause it rehydrates you.
 
  • #168
Smurf said:
Gatorade works miracles against hangovers, I know I've tried it. It's cause it rehydrates you.

That, and because it's full of sugar. Anything with sugar and water will work. Any kind of juice or sport drink. Whatever you can tolerate the taste of without puking. :bugeye:
 
  • #169
Yeah, puking might even be the worst part of hangovers.\
Well, I mean either that, or not being able to get it up.
 
  • #170
Smurf said:
Yeah, puking might even be the worst part of hangovers.\
Well, I mean either that or not being able to get it up.

No, the worst is when your stomach is completely empty, so it's just dry heaves.
 
  • #171
That doesn't happen to me, I just puke up bile instead :smile:
 
  • #172
Smurf said:
That doesn't happen to me, I just puke up bile instead :smile:
Okay, that might be worse.
 
  • #173
Naw, not being able to get it up still sets the bar.
 
  • #174
Smurf said:
Yeah, puking might even be the worst part of hangovers.\
Well, I mean either that, or not being able to get it up.


Naw, getting it up is never an issue.

Finding someone to get it up in the presence of can be though.
 
  • #175
franznietzsche said:
Naw, getting it up is never an issue.

Finding someone to get it up in the presence of can be though.

Okay, now I know it's time for me to get some sleep. I thought he was still talking about puke. :rolleyes: :smile:
 

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