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  1. guyvsdcsniper

    Trouble with units for Spring Constant

    I do not understand how in part a, the units for K can be N/m. If Work is in joules which is kg*m^2/s^2 and we are diving by x^2 which is m^2, then m^2 should cancel out and we should be left with kg/s^2. Kg/s^2 makes more sense because in part b when you find the work done you are multiplying...
  2. H

    A weight is suspended from a spring and oscillates between positions A and B

    I just would like to check if my corrections to each of the wrong options are right. A) & B) elastic potential energy greatest at B, not at A or O, based upon Eq.1 D) Since dU/dt = 0 at O because O is at equilibrium where no change of spring length. E) At A, dU/dt = -kx. At B, dU/dt = -kx = -kx...
  3. momoneedsphysicshelp

    Simple Harmonic Motion of a Mass Hanging from a Vertical Spring

    Assuming zero spring mass and zero friction, At the greatest value of x, the loss in gravitational potential energy should equal the loss in elastic potential energy. so I did (1/2)kx^2=mgx to isolate x in the formula, x=(2mg)/k then I plugged in my values so: (2*13.6*9.81)/8.8= 30.3218...
  4. hquang001

    Work by a Spring Force - Understanding Uinitial and Ufinal

    Here it writes Wby spring= Uinitial - Ufinal. So is it equal to opposite of the change in potential energy ?
  5. A

    Total energy of a mass hanging on a spring

    Hello! So here what I did is first calculated the potential energy; $$ E_p = \frac{1}{2} * k * x^2 $$ E_p should be = 0,125 J Now i tried calculating the kinetic energy, I used this formula $$ E_k = \frac{mv^2}{2} $$ to get v I used this formula $$v = x *\sqrt{\frac{k}{m}} $$ v should be =...
  6. T

    Automotive Factors affecting compression spring oscillations

    Hi all, I'm studying the compression spring design issue that occurred in a machine design application. As illustrated below, spring is bouncing or oscillating after impact to a stopping surface (1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4) and eventually stop after few bounces. Ideal case for this application is to...
  7. J

    Finding frequency of spring and friction system

    So first I made an equation representing the forces Fnet=kx-12.8v a=1/m(kx-12.8v). Now I am not really sure how to get w from this. I could argue the mass is at its max amplitude when a=0, but that wouldn't help me find w. If I say x(t)=kx-12.8v, then 1/m would be w^2, but this isn't right...
  8. H

    Measuring the natural frequency of a spring-mass system driving force

    Hi, On a driving force graph ##y = displacement (m)## and ##x = time## where the external force start at t = 0 and the system is in equilibrium at x=0, it's easy to find the driving frequency. $$F = \frac{\omega}{2\pi}, \omega = \frac{2\pi}{T}$$ and we can get ##T## easily with the steady...
  9. K

    How to solve spring mass damper system manually?

    The other day when I solved a spring mass damper system in Matlab, I was curious how in olden days would have people solved the equation. We all know the 2nd order differential equation of the system: However if I know the time, damping coefficient, stiffness and mass, will I be able to find...
  10. J

    Oscillation Spring Dampening Find Frequency

    So first I found what b/2m is and got 0.287129. Then I found what the sqrt part of the equation was and got 1.128713. Then I added them together to find w. Then I divided by 2pi to find frequency and got 0.255, but the answer is 0.180.
  11. J

    Dampening Oscillation Spring Question

    Since its critically damped that means k/m=(b/2m)^2, which would mean w=ib/2m. So m=ib/w. My issue now is that I need to find work. I could put w back into x(t) to get Ae^((-b/2m)t+phi). I guess I could make this Acos((-b/2m)t+phi)). But I am kinda lost at this point. Sure, I could find the...
  12. H

    How to determine the spring constant in a Lennard-Jones potential

    Hi, First of all I hope it doesn't bother if I ask too much question.I found the values of ##u1,u2## for 2 differents posistions ##(r1,r2 )## and I now have to determine the spring constant (k).I'm thinking about using$$ F= -kx $$ with ##F = -\frac{du}{dr}## then $$ U = \int -kr \cdot dr...
  13. dahoom102

    A spring being compressed between two masses

    i attempted this problem by using conservation of energy, mgh=1/2kx^2 mgD=1/2kD^2 2mg=kD k=2mg/D why is it wrong ? btw the correct answer used mg = kx which is mg/D
  14. mattlfang

    A ball hitting a two-ball system (with a spring between them)

    I honeslty don't quite know how to start. It seems like the Hooke's coefficent k is independent of the answer to this problem. I would also appreciate any clue of expressing the condition when "balls will collide again". The fact that all balls can keep moving make this rather difficult. It...
  15. T

    Will this door with torsion spring survive?

    I am trying to design a small box with a hinged door/lid that opens with a torsion spring. When closed, the door will latch onto a mechanism where the open button is, and when the button is pressed this mechanism will slide away, removing the latch out of the way so that the door can fly open...
  16. V

    What happens when the maximum is exceeded in the Mass-Spring System?

    If M is displaced by an amount + x from equilibrium.What happens to the two masses at the point of release for displacements of x and less? Will they remain static because mass m provides whatever it takes to stop mass M from moving till some x where m slips and M oscillates or Will they...
  17. V

    Find the tension of a rope with a mass and spring attached

    I'm having trouble with this problem, I think I solved it but I don't know if what I did is right... At first when the velocity is 0 and the spring is at its natural length, there's just gravitational potential energy, so $$E_i=mgh$$ And then, when the mass is released and then reaches its...
  18. T

    Does change in 'g' affect frequency of mass spring system?

    I attempted using f = 1/(2pi x sqrt l/g) For Earth I found the value of length to be 0.0276m. Then I substituted the value in the equation, putting (1/3)g instead of g, to find the value of f in Mars. My answer is C. I am confused. Please help me.
  19. yucheng

    Visualizing the SHM of 2 blocks attached by a spring

    From Kleppner's Intro to Mechanics (Example 4.7, wording not exact): Two identical blocks a and b each of mass m slide without friction on a straight track. They are attached by a spring with unstretched length l and spring constant k; the mass of the spring is negligible compared to the mass of...
  20. J

    Velocity from spring pushing on 2 masses

    So i know Ek=123.48 from the potential energy that converts into kinetic energy (Ep=1/2kx^2). Now by conservation of momentum, m1v1=m2v2 So m2Sqrt(2Ek/(m1+m2))=m1v1 This is where I am making a mistake I think, but not sure how. Answer is suppose to be 4.44
  21. J

    Determining the accelerations -- two masses connected by a spring

    So first I looked at the forces acting on m1 m1a1=F spring on m2-F spring Then m2 m2a2=F spring-F spring on m1 using 3rd law, m2a2=F spring+F spring on m2 m2a2=F spring+m1a1+F spring m2a2=2F spring+m1a1 Not entirely sure if I've done the above correctly, but I am stuck now because I have...
  22. J

    Conservation: Mass Dropped onto a Spring, Find the Compression

    First I wanted to find the kinetic energy the mass had when it hit the spring (converted from the potential Energy it had) thus Ek=mgh=9.8*2.6*3.5=89.18 Now I know as this Ek changes to 0 the potential energy of the spring as its being compressed will be at its maximum so, Ek=Ep...
  23. J

    Work Problem: Spring and Friction, find final Speed

    First calculated non conservative work from friction using Ff=umg. Non conservative work was -8.82. Initial kinetic energy, 1/2mv^2, was 136.89. Change in potential energy, 1/2k(x)^2, was 8.1216. Ekf-Eki+Change Ep=Work NC Ekf=W NC+Eki-change Ep =-8.82+136.89-8.1216=119.9484 Ekf=1/2mv^2...
  24. J

    Fundamental Forces: Spring Question

    ma=-k2l+k1l (ma-k1l)/l=-k (-65.12-35.7)/0.51=-k k=197.69, but answer should be 57.7
  25. Gonzalo Lopez

    Motion Equation for a magnet on a spring

    Apart from the trivial elements of the motion equation (m z'' = -kz -mg), I am required to find the force produced by the Eddy currents induced by the moving magnet. To do so, I calculated the magnetic flux through the hole plate: For a magnet: Bz=μo m 4π. 2z^2−r^2/(z^2+r^2)^5/2 so Φ = a→ +∞...
  26. NickTheFill

    Modelling the tyre as a spring in a quarter car model

    Hi everyone I've just completed a mechanical engineering degree, and one aspect of the classic 2DoF quarter car model that still bugs me is the representation of the tyre as a linear spring attached to the ground. Does anyone have any experience of modelling the system with the tyre spring...
  27. N

    How to Solve Two Masses Connected by a Spring in Ground Frame of Reference?

    I have solved this question in Center of mass frame of reference, by using energy conservation. However, I'm not able to write any equation when I'm trying to solve it in Ground frame of reference. Can somebody please let me know how to begin in Ground FoR.
  28. A

    Physics problem relating to an inclined plane and a spring oscillation

    Hello! So my main and first problem about this question is, I do not know what the problem is about. What I mean by that is, in class we talked about pendulums and are given formulas and assignments regarding pendulums. But this problem here does not seem like it has anything to do with...
  29. K

    Selection of a compression spring

    Summary:: What does I need to consider in order to get the right spring? Hello. I need a compression spring that require 10 lbs of force in order to be compressed 1cm. The springs outer diameter (De) has to be 1cm. The spring will be made out of piano wire. Which values of specification does...
  30. Spinnor

    Misc. Bending a spring steel rod to shape and heat treat, DIY?

    There used to be sold a style bicycle handlebar bags that used what I think is a formed spring steel rod that fit over the handlebars and looped under the handlebar stem that supported a handlebar bag. For whatever reason this style does not appear to be available any more. I think it is a...
  31. greg_rack

    Average power used to stretch a spring

    First and foremost, I found the max stretch of the spring using the strain energy formula(x=√((2*0.25J)/k)) ). Then, the maximum force exerted(Fmax=k*xmax), in order to find out the seconds needed for the force in [N/s] to reach its maximum value. Now, I got confused about how to find the...
  32. king_harsh

    Spring and block on an inclined plane

    A block of mass 0.2 kg which slides without friction on a θ = 30° incline is connected to the top of the incline by a mass-less spring of relaxed length of 23.75 cm and spring constant 80 N/m as shown in the following figure. (a) How far from the top of the incline does the block stop? (b) If...
  33. Hamiltonian

    Maximum extension in a system with two blocks separated by a spring

    the acceleration of the center of mass is ##a_{cm} = F/(M+m)## I considered the forces on the block of mass m(when the system is at maximum extension) I got the equation $$kx - \frac {mF}{(M+m)} = ma_{cm}$$ and from that I got the value of the maximum extension $$x = \frac {2mF} {k(M+m)}$$ which...
  34. S

    Acceleration of a spring - mass system

    m1 = top left m2 = bottom left m3 = top right m4 = bottom right My questions: 1. Will all the object (m1, m2, m3,and m4) have same acceleration? 2. Should I assume initial extension of both spring is the same? (only based on the picture) 3. Will the extension of the spring change after the...
  35. T

    Lagrangian mechanics, system of a spring and a pendulum

    Hello! I have some problem getting the correct answer for (b). My FBD: For part (a) my lagrangian is $$L=T-V\iff L=\frac{1}{2}m(b\dot{\theta})^2+mg(b-b\cos\theta)-\frac{1}{2}k\boldsymbol{x}^2,\ where\ \boldsymbol{x}=\sqrt{(1.25b-b)^2+(b\sin\theta)^2}-(1.25b-0.25b)$$ Hence my equation of...
  36. N

    Why Is My Calculation Result for Acceleration Incorrect?

    Fsp = 90 x 0.12 = 10.8 Ffriction = Magcos(titre) x 0.30 I got the answer 2.09ms2 when the correct answer is 1.11ms2. What am i doing wrong here?
  37. Like Tony Stark

    Two rods, each with a free and a fixed ball and a spring

    Since there are no external forces, the angular momentum (##L##) and linear momentum (##P##) are conserved. Let's call the left rod ##A## and the right one ##B##. If all the balls were fixed, I'd write ##L_0=L_f## ##L_A+L_B=(I_A+I_B)\omega_f## From this equation I can find the final angular...
  38. Like Tony Stark

    Write the equations of a mass and spring in different accelerated systems

    Hi I know that the equation of a simple harmonic oscillator is ##\ddot x + \omega^2 x=0##. The thing is that I don't know how to get to that equation in the situations given. In the first situation, I know that ##x) k(x-x_0)=m(\ddot x -x \dot \theta ^2)## ##y) N=m(2 \dot x \dot \theta)## So...
  39. E

    Calculating Earth's Effective Spring Constant for its Orbit Around the Sun

    My first attempt was using the period equation of a spring system. I've changed it into k=((2π)^2*m)/T^2, then put Earth's mass into "m" (5.972*10^24), then put the time required for one revolution of Earth around the Sun, 365 days into seconds, 31536000 sec, to "T" So I got (2.371*10^11 kg/s^2)...
  40. P

    How fast will this torsion spring open a lid?

    Hi, I'm designing a small container with a spring loaded hollow rectangular lid. I want the lid to open when a button is pressed, so I have a torsion spring at the hinge. I want to know if the spring I selected is able to open the lid and also how long it would take to open 90°. Below is a...
  41. LCSphysicist

    Hanging Spring with non-negligible mass is subjected to a driving force

    First i will use a equation resulted in considering a spring as a continuum limit of massive mass: ω = √(KL/ρ)*kn ρ is the linear density ρ ω = √(KL/ρ)*kn X = A*cos(kn*x)*cos(ω*t) ξ = A (first consequence) X = ξ*cos(kn*x)*cos(ω*t) ∂y/∂x need to be zero in x=L (for strain be zero) kn*L =...
  42. aspodkfpo

    Spring Force vs Height on a Trampoline

    There is a trampoline drawn here and a graph of the spring force vs height. I don't see why the spring force is decreasing at a decreasing rate with respect to height above trampoline. F= kx = k * h/sin(theta), letting theta be between the horizontal and the spring.
  43. LCSphysicist

    Spring constant matrix and normal modes (4 springs and 3 masses)

    We need to find the normal modes of this system: Well, this system is a little easy to deal when we put it in a system and solve the system... That's not what i want to do, i want to try my direct matrix methods. We have springs with stiffness k1,k2,k3,k4 respectively, and block mass m1, m2...
  44. M

    Calculating Final Positions & Velocities for M1, M2 & Spring After DeltaT

    Let's say you have two masses on either side of a spring. Mass 1 is connected to the end of a spring. The spring itself has no mass. Mass 2 is free in space. So you have: [M1]-[spring] [M2]So it's more descriptive, I'll name the variables like you might in programming. Let's define...
  45. G

    The Vertical Force of a Spring: A Logical Argument

    Because this problem is easier to understand with a picture, I'll just copy paste the original problem. There is no question about the validity of the solution. My question is about the statement in the solution "Consider the instant when the mass is moving vertically upward. In this instant the...
  46. Prabs3257

    Understanding Momentum Conservation in Simple Harmonic Motion

    I first got the velocity of the combined mass with conservation of momentum and as it was in the mean position the velocity can be written as v = wA ( w= angular frequency , A = amplitude ) as we have to take it back to natural length i put A as the initial extension but i am getting a wrong ans...
  47. E

    Force derived from magnetic energy of a current carrying spring

    The magnetic energy of a current carrying spring, with ##N## turns, length ##x## and cross sectional area ##A##, is $$E_m = \frac{\mu_0 N^2 I^2 A}{2x}$$The (negated) spatial derivative of this yields a quantity with dimensions of force,$$F = - \frac{dE_m}{dx} = \frac{\mu_0 N^2 I^2 A}{2x^2}$$How...
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