COVID-19 Coronavirus Containment Efforts

[phinds]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracorporeal_membrane_oxygenation?wprov=sfla1

Could this technology effect the treatment of covid-19

I don't understand your question. The article specifically SAYS that it is useful for the treatment of Covid-19, so what really is your questions? If you mean could it effect how well the world deals with Covid-19 then I doubt it. Likely nowhere near enough units to be of much use.

In fact, had you read the article all the way you would have seen that it clearly answered that question with NO:

 

[hagopbul]

I don't understand your question. The article specifically SAYS that it is useful for the treatment of Covid-19, so what really is your questions? If you mean could it effect how well the world deals with Covid-19 then I doubt it. Likely nowhere near enough units to be of much use.

I will edit my question one minute , you are correct it was not clear

 

[Jarvis323]

I wonder what the plots we're looking at really mean? Is it more about the dynamics of testing kit production, and testing restrictions? That in combination with non-community spread?

I mean, suppose half the population had it from the start, then what would the evolution of confirmed cases look like?

 

[Ygggdrasil]

A chart explaining why the number of confirmed cases in the US likely greatly underestimates the actual number of cases (and how countries like South Korea have been more effective in managing the outbreak and keeping death rates low):

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/sc.../12/21175034/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-usa

 

[DEvens]

Re: Bolsonaro

https://time.com/5802494/jair-bolsonaro-brazil-coronavirus/

Nope, he tested negative.

 

[DEvens]

It is 3:40PM Eastern, March 13. News feed says Trump is about to declare a national state of emergency.

Buckle up. It's going to be a bumpy ride.

 

[DEvens]

Re: That video of Dr. Amy Acton. I really need to learn sign language. The person doing the signs seems to know things that nobody else in the vid is aware of.

 

[chirhone]

Hi, they spray our elevators every one hour. And other common areas. Our public areas were also bombarded by sprays. What do they usually use? Are these just alcohol, or what kind of chemical? Are these chemical safe when we breath them in?

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

WI schools just closed until April 6th

 

[kyphysics]

I stocked up on food on Tuesday, but didn't buy extra toilet paper (it was available). That was before Cancellation Thursday, and the supermarket was well stocked(except for cleaning supplies) and and not crowded. I may make a beer run this afternoon...

Be careful out there!

Cases are growing.

Lots of people doing "late" stockpiling too. I haven't worked the past two days and did some shopping. Stores are packed and essential supplies are fading.

Dollar Tree is the ONLY store I know with hand sanitizers (gel) and wipes. I was there this AM...3 hours later the gel was gone (but wipes still available). They limited 5/person on the gels.

Chlorox bleach is GONE from every store I know. Dollar Tree (noticing a pattern, lol?) has some generic brand bleach (names I've never ever ever heard of).

Floss is gone at Walmart/Target...Dollar Tree had like 100 of them.

Hoping we can get drive-thru testing soon, as promised by Trump. I'm worried I have it. Breathing is difficult and coughing a lot.

 

[chemisttree]

Hi, they spray our elevators every one hour. And other common areas. Our public areas were also bombarded by sprays. What do they usually use? Are these just alcohol, or what kind of chemical? Are these chemical safe when we breath them in?

Very likely a water solution of bleach for outside use. Inside it could be a solution of surfactants and one or more quats. Not safe, especially if the worker spraying it has taken steps like a Tyvek suit, gloves taped to sleeves, headgear, respirator, etc...

 

[anorlunda]

WI schools just closed until April 6th

And Florida schools until April fools day.

 

[kadiot]

Do you have a reliable source for this?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Donald-Trumps-hand-POSITIVE-coronavirus.html

 

[atyy]

Hoping we can get drive-thru testing soon, as promised by Trump. I'm worried I have it. Breathing is difficult and coughing a lot.

Do you have a regular general practitioner you can call for advice?
While you are not sure if you have it, you should self-isolate to prevent transmitting it to others, as it may case serious illness for some, even though for many it is mild.

 

[Vanadium 50]

Hoping we can get drive-thru testing soon, as promised by Trump. I'm worried I have it. Breathing is difficult and coughing a lot.

And your plan is not to see your doctor right away, but instead to wait for drive-through testing? Does this strike you as smart?

 

[kyphysics]

Do you have a regular general practitioner you can call for advice?
While you are not sure if you have it, you should self-isolate to prevent transmitting it to others, as it may case serious illness for some, even though for many it is mild.

Yes, I have a primary care doctor.

I am also self-iso-ing.

I also do not have work for at least a couple of weeks. So, this is all-aroudn good.

My main thing I'm trying to figure out is if I feel really ill, but still lucid and able to drive, would it be better to drive myself to an E.R. if things get bad over calling an ambulance?

If I'm not mistaken, calling 911 for am ambulance can cost thousands?

 

[atyy]

Yes, I have a primary care doctor.

I am also self-iso-ing.

I also do not have work for at least a couple of weeks. So, this is all-aroudn good.

My main thing I'm trying to figure out is if I feel really ill, but still lucid and able to drive, would it be better to drive myself to an E.R. if things get bad over calling an ambulance?

If I'm not mistaken, calling 911 for am ambulance can cost thousands?

I'm in Singapore, so don't know how the health system where you are is set up. Where are are you? Can you call your doctor for advice (eg. tell him your symptoms, and ask him what you should do)?

 

[DennisN]

Hoping we can get drive-thru testing soon, as promised by Trump. I'm worried I have it. Breathing is difficult and coughing a lot.

I'm sorry to hear that. I think you should read the WHO (World Health Organization) advice page here:

If you have fever, cough and difficulty breathing, seek medical care early

Stay home if you feel unwell. If you have a fever, cough and difficulty breathing, seek medical attention and call in advance. Follow the directions of your local health authority.

Why? National and local authorities will have the most up to date information on the situation in your area. Calling in advance will allow your health care provider to quickly direct you to the right health facility. This will also protect you and help prevent spread of viruses and other infections.

Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) advice for the public
http://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

 

[Vanadium 50]

If you feel sick, see a doctor.
If you are asking us if you are healthy enough to drive yourself, how the heck do you expect a bunch of people on the internet to tell?

 

[kadiot]

Italy hits one-day record with 250 new.

 

[russ_watters]

A chart explaining why the number of confirmed cases in the US likely greatly underestimates the actual number of cases (and how countries like South Korea have been more effective in managing the outbreak and keeping death rates low):
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https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/sc.../12/21175034/coronavirus-covid-19-testing-usa

A note of caution* about media-created graphics: The news media excels at creating pretty graphics, but is quite poor at epidemiology and scientific analysis of information in general. So such information should be read with a skeptical eye, not taken at face value. This one has issues and is hard to digest.

The US has certainly bungled the availability of testing, but that graphic -- arranged in what at first glance looks intended to be a worst-to-first order is a "today" (roughly) snapshot that doesn't take into account where the different countries are in the progression of the disease. Quite obviously as the disease spreads throughout a population, more and more people will be tested. For example, the US is something like 10 days behind Italy in terms of absolute numbers infected, and much further than that in per-capita. And while the province of China where the disease originated ranks "second best", that's only because the disease took hold there something like 2 months before anywhere else. I'm sure we've all seen the story about how a doctor trying to raise awareness of the new disease was arrested on Jan 1.

*mostly for others, as I know you have some expertise here...

 

[russ_watters]

My main thing I'm trying to figure out is if I feel really ill, but still lucid and able to drive, would it be better to drive myself to an E.R. if things get bad over calling an ambulance?

If I'm not mistaken, calling 911 for an ambulance can cost thousands?

Call your doctor and ask. If you can't reach them, call your nearest hospital and ask. Do not just show up in the emergency room.

When you say "an ambulance can cost thousands", I assume that means you are uninsured (also as per a previous thread)? If you can still drive, the hospital may direct you to an outside-the-hospital triage area or just meet you in the parking lot.

Also, while it hasn't been decided yet, it is possible if not likely that the US government will be reimbursing uninsured people for Coronavirus related medical costs:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/p...edical-bills-for-coronavirus-tests-2020-03-10

 

[russ_watters]

I wonder what the plots we're looking at really mean? Is it more about the dynamics of testing kit production, and testing restrictions? That in combination with non-community spread?

I mean, suppose half the population had it from the start, then what would the evolution of confirmed cases look like?

Who is she? It is likely that many more people have it than is known, but with positive test rates in the single digits in most places, it doesn't seem possible for 1% to already be infected. Ohio has 15 confirmed cases in a population of 11.7 million, 65 tests complete and another 159 pending. But we'll know in a week if she was right!

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/covid-19-testing/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/03/health/us-coronavirus-cases-state-by-state/index.html
https://www.whio.com/news/local/cor...-you-need-know-friday/YpjSqWSijaqILGuNnR7LVO/

 

[Vanadium 50]

arranged in what at first glance looks intended to be a worst-to-first order is a "today" (roughly) snapshot that doesn't take into account where the different countries are in the progression of the disease.

Exactly.

First, the Voxsplainers have an axe to grind in general.

Second, cases per million (currently about 6 for the US) shows a different story - as you say, the US is in an earlier phase of the epidemiology. The most similar in that regard is Japan, the second "worst". However, Japan also has the highest elderly dependency ratio in the world - 48%! That's twice the US's 24%. Given that this is fatal primarily to the elderly, the relative rsponses of the two countries are more similar than the raw numbers indicate. (Indeed, I think the elderly population is a more relevant number than total population in this regard)

 

[StevieTNZ]

NZ has its sixth confirmed case. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/he...rus-waitemat-dhb-chief-provides-a-live-update

Also a MP of ours is being tested after being around Australia MP Peter Dutton who has been confirmed as having the virus. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/he...ected-aussie-mp-in-the-white-house-a-week-ago

And tomorrow's remembrance event for the terror attack last year has been canned -- https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/ch...-15-terror-attack-remembrance-event-cancelled

 

[chirhone]

In just one week. Our positives have increased from 3 to an incredible 64! Tonight the Lockdown will begin. I am expecting to see this in tv:

"This is not a test. This is your emergency broadcast system announcing the commencement of the Lockdown, sanctioned by the government. Workers outside have been authorized to enter during the Lockdown. All other people are restricted. Government officials of high ranking have been granted immunity from the Lockdown and shall not be arrested. Commencing at the siren, any and all mass garhering, including wedding parties will be illegal for 1 continuous month. Police, fire, and emergency medical services will always be available. Blessed be our New Founding Fathers and America, a nation reborn. May God be with you all."

I imagine the sirens blare across the capital, and the Lockdown begins.

 

[Klystron]

Question for the thread concerning re-infection. Realizing data remains incomplete, do we have any reliable information on Covid-19 survivors becoming reinfected or reinfecting themselves?

This likely involves how and if recovered patients develop antibodies and immunity to the pathogen. Thanks.

 

[WWGD]

I wonder what the plots we're looking at really mean? Is it more about the dynamics of testing kit production, and testing restrictions? That in combination with non-community spread?

I mean, suppose half the population had it from the start, then what would the evolution of confirmed cases look like?

What's special about Ohio? Why is it being brought up by so many?

 

[atyy]

Who is she? It is likely that many more people have it than is known, but with positive test rates in the single digits in most places, it doesn't seem possible for 1% to already be infected. Ohio has 15 confirmed cases in a population of 11.7 million, 65 tests complete and another 159 pending. But we'll know in a week if she was right!

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/covid-19-testing/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/03/health/us-coronavirus-cases-state-by-state/index.html
https://www.whio.com/news/local/cor...-you-need-know-friday/YpjSqWSijaqILGuNnR7LVO/

"I very respectfully disagree with the estimate of 100k #COVID19 infections in Ohio put forth by the @OHdeptofhealth. As far as I can ascertain from the press coverage (https://news5cleveland.com/news/con...says-100-000-ohioans-are-carrying-coronavirus), this number comes from extrapolating from 2 community cases detected."

Trevor Bedford is an Associate Member at the Fred Hutch in the https://www.fredhutch.org/en/labs/vaccine-and-infectious-disease.html and the https://www.fredhutch.org/en/labs/phs/projects/herbold-computational-biology-program.html. He is also an Affiliate Associate Professor in the Department of Genome Sciences and the Department of Epidemiology at the University of Washington.

 

[Vanadium 50]

What's special about Ohio?

Because of the press conference, where based on 14 cases (and zero deaths, so I can't say "four dead in Ohio"), they inferred 100,000 people infected. That's newsworthy.

 

[phinds]

If I'm not mistaken, calling 911 for am ambulance can cost thousands?

My son had to use an ambulance and after his insurance paid whatever IT paid, he was stuck with a bill for $1,500 and I've heard of worse. Check with your insurance company.

 

[kadiot]

In just one week. Our positives have increased from 3 to an incredible 64! Tonight the Lockdown will begin.

Yesterdat lots of people fleeing Metro Manila. Looks like it defeats the purpose of a "community quarantine" (a.k.a. lockdown). President Duterte should have declared it effective immediately. Looks like the people were given enough to bring the virus to different provinces.

 

[Evo]

Yesterdat lots of people fleeing Metro Manila. Looks like it defeats the purpose of a "community quarantine" (a.k.a. lockdown). President Duterte should have declared it effective immediately. Looks like the people were given enough to bring the virus to different provinces.

That's not good.

 

[StevieTNZ]

Our PM has announced that anyone arriving from overseas, from Sunday midnight, will be required to self-isolate for 14 days.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/he...prime-minister-updates-nz-on-covid19-outbreak

 

[chirhone]

Yesterdat lots of people fleeing Metro Manila. Looks like it defeats the purpose of a "community quarantine" (a.k.a. lockdown). President Duterte should have declared it effective immediately. Looks like the people were given enough to bring the virus to different provinces.

Today March 14, the last day before the lockdown. There are even greater lineups at the bus terminals for those escaping the lockdown. I even know some rushing to get out of the city. The fear is lack of food as the groceries are near empty now. The rich or those who can afford are stocking up. The poor can't stock anything. So there may be trouble in days ahead.

https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/03/13/p...ces-or-back-to-manila-before-lockdown-starts/

Also during the lockdown itself. People or workers from provinces can still get in and out of the lockdown daily, if they have company identification cards to show to police checkpoints (they enter lockdown at morning, get out at night, then back daily). I don't know what would happen if the people getting out of the lockdown has virus. They can spread it to other cities outside the zone.

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1096493

Note the above is about workers getting in and out of the lockdown zone daily.

In Italy. I heard it was now so spread with over 10,000 positives because before the lockdown of the north. There was leak of it, and people ran to the south, and spread the virus to the entire country. Now Italy is suffering. Hope the outcome here is better. The hope is that those in exodus outside the lockdown yesterday and today don't carry the virus.