Palin pick an insult to our intelligence

[LowlyPion]

I'm thinking that The Economist must be mighty surprised today to discover that Sarah Cheerlead-a-cuda has ever cracked the cover of even a one of their issues. If I had been interviewing her I would have asked her immediately to recall any article that she might have read there and what relevance to Alaska she may have drawn from it.

Equally surprising is the idea that she would have had in mind Kennedy v. La or Kelo v. New London. I can guarantee that she had no awareness of either of those 2 judgments at the time that Couric asked her questions or she would have spouted Marbury, or Plessey or Miranda or Brown.. Neither was her response to Couric "flippant" so much as it appeared beauty contestant like BLANK - numbingly dumb BLANK.

 

[fourier jr]

Has anyone else seen Rich Lowry's review of the VP debate in the National Review? It's pretty obscene:

A very wise TV executive once told me that the key to TV is projecting through the screen. It's one of the keys to the success of, say, a Bill O'Reilly, who comes through the screen and grabs you by the throat. Palin too projects through the screen like crazy. I'm sure I'm not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, "Hey, I think she just winked at me." And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America. This is a quality that can't be learned; it's either something you have or you don't, and man, she's got it.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDYzMGFiNjQ0MWRjNmI0ZTlkYjgwZTExMjA3MWNiZTk=

I wonder if he even expects to be taken seriously? That review is just over the top.

 

[LowlyPion]

Has anyone else seen Rich Lowry's review of the VP debate in the National Review? It's pretty obscene:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDYzMGFiNjQ0MWRjNmI0ZTlkYjgwZTExMjA3MWNiZTk=

I wonder if he even expects to be taken seriously? That review is just over the top.

Keith Obermann read that piece last night and sadly that falls into the GILF category of fantasization I think. Would that our politics and policies be decided by sterner reasons.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Has anyone else seen Rich Lowry's review of the VP debate in the National Review? It's pretty obscene:


http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDYzMGFiNjQ0MWRjNmI0ZTlkYjgwZTExMjA3MWNiZTk=

I wonder if he even expects to be taken seriously? That review is just over the top.

Well, thank God I am beyond being influenced by wink. I guess Palin will be getting the sex fantasy vote.

However, Obama girl is another matter altogether. I'm certain that she waived her fanny at me!

 

[Astronuc]

She was being flippant? Sure she was. That's so Presidential. Or was it that VERBIAGE thing again?

Palin's remarks concerning Obama's position on Afghanistan were incorrect.

Robert Gates (Secretary DOD) and Gen. McKiernan have acknowledged the need reduce and avoid civilian casualties/fatalities.

Approximately 395 civilians have been killed by US and allied forces in 2008.

As far as I know Obama's tax plan does not call for additional spending of $1 trillion over projected budgets. The budget will somehow have to be reduced and realigned, or taxes raised to cover the spending. The US government cannot continue to have deficits of $400 billion without adverse impact on the economy.

 

[LowlyPion]

Palin has apparently taken up orders from Rove Central and is attacking Obama because of simply knowing William Ayers as reported on FoxNews?

Apparently the Republicans want to drive the news cycle with mudslinging to hide their desperate position on Healthcare policy - which is what Obama was discussing today.

The reason the polls have been running against them is because they are running away from substantive discussion of their bankrupt policies.

 

[LowlyPion]

Troopergate Subpoena Injunction Appealed to the Alaska Supreme Court.

"The plaintiffs and Alaskans will suffer irreparable harm if the investigation at issue continues and if the resulting investigative report issues as planned on Oct. 10, 2008," their lawyers wrote in the request for the state Supreme Court to hear the appeal.

http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/545448.html

I get for sure how Palin may be harmed, but I don't understand why that would be a bad thing for the people of Alaska if she really has misused her office.

How unseemly for Palin to be ducking these subpoenas.

She's acting just like every other guilty Republican that has preceded her.

How does this make her a maverick?

 

[LowlyPion]

The ADN video with various clips on Troopergate.
http://community.adn.com/mini_apps/vmix/player.php?ID=2221420&GID=118

A continuing story.

 

[phoenixy]

Has anyone else seen Rich Lowry's review of the VP debate in the National Review? It's pretty obscene:


http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDYzMGFiNjQ0MWRjNmI0ZTlkYjgwZTExMjA3MWNiZTk=

I wonder if he even expects to be taken seriously? That review is just over the top.

I blame America Idol

 

[LowlyPion]

I didn't catch this nuance the first time reading the ADN story:

The attorney general's office has not joined the appeal to the state Supreme Court. Palin spokeswoman Sharon Leighow said Colberg would not say what his next move would be until he has a chance to discuss it with the subpoenaed state officials.

The hired McCain guns are continuing with an appeal, but the Attorney General is not apparently a part of that appeal. This would mean that the issued subpoenas would force testimony sooner than later, and First Dude and the other members of her staff will apparently be required to testify. Predictably the Legislative Counsel is not expecting any reversal in the Superior Court ruling regarding the courts interfering in legislative matters.

The next step if it fails would be to file in Federal Appeals Court. Except that becomes a particularly untenable position in light of her recent confederationist stances about Federal Courts interfering in the operation of state issues. But then again when has hypocrisy stopped a Rove Republican?

 

[LowlyPion]

Here is another issue that smacks of self interest and abuse of office.

Sarah Palin has been working to strip the Indigenous Peoples of Alaska of their Subsistence Fishing Rights in order to make these rights available to commercial and Sport fishermen. Oh and golly she and Todd own a commercial fishing business too. Now that can't be any self interest on her part now can it?

Sarah Palin’s hostile record on Alaska Native subsistence

Perhaps no issue is of greater importance to Alaska Native peoples as the right to hunt and fish according to ancient customary and traditional practices, and to carry on the subsistence way of life for future generations.

These rights are not just a matter of custom; they are a matter of necessity in a state where Native villages are spread across a largely roadless area covering 375 million acres, and where subsistence foods are still fully 60 percent of the local diet.

But Gov. Sarah Palin has consistently opposed those essential and fundamental rights.

As soon as Palin was sworn in as governor, she set a firm course against Native subsistence rights. One of her very first decisions was to continue litigation that seeks to overturn every subsistence fishing determination the federal government has ever made in Alaska. The goal of Palin’s lawsuit (now known as Alaska v. Kempthorne) is to invalidate all the subsistence fishing regulations the federal government has ever issued to protect Alaska Native fishing in navigable waters. If successful, Palin’s attack would move every subsistence issue into the courts and thus tie up Alaska Native subsistence for generations. The reason is no secret: to diminish subsistence fishing rights in order to expand sport and commercial fishing.

http://www.indiancountrytoday.com/politics/28313519.html

 

[Astronuc]

Palin's Pipeline to Nowhere?
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1846731,00.html

It may be difficult for Americans in the Lower 48 to fully grasp how much Alaskans benefit from their state's vast oil and gas deposits. Alaska is home to just over 20% of the nation's proven oil deposits and almost 18% of its natural-gas reserves. About 90% of the state's public revenue comes from oil and gas royalty receipts. Alaskans pay no state income or state sales tax. Instead, they receive an annual dividend from the state treasurer that comes directly from the oil industry. Over the past 25 years, the average Alaskan has received roughly $1,200 from the state each year. When fuel costs spiraled out of control in rural Alaska, instead of focusing on suggestions to help rural residents weatherize their homes or develop small-scale renewable energy sources, Palin wrote every Alaskan a second check for $1,200.

The downside of that dependency is that it's sometimes hard to distinguish the state government in Juneau from the energy companies that it regulates. The state's elected officials have always worked closely with oil companies--at times, too closely. In the late 1950s, bureaucrats actually hired an oil-industry lawyer--with the big oil companies paying his expenses--to write the new state's oil and gas lease laws. Palin's populist approach was the perfect complement to rising public discontent with Big Oil, and it was the main engine of her remarkable rise from small-town mayor to a place on the Republican national ticket.

After Palin lost the race for lieutenant governor in 2002, then GOP governor Frank Murkowski rewarded her strong campaign by appointing her chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, an obscure but important board that regulates oil-field production. In her short tenure, she gained attention not for her grasp of technical detail but for making public ethics accusations against a fellow board member who happened to be chairman of the state Republican Party. She resigned in protest, leaving the $122,400 job after a year. (He was later fined for, among other things, sending confidential information to an industry lobbyist.) But Palin emerged with the image of a bold reformer in a state where the interests of Big Oil and politicians had seemed inseparable.

By 2005, Scott Heyworth was back in Wasilla, eating pancakes in the mayor's breakfast room next to her husband Todd as they discussed her plans to run for governor. Palin was weighing whether to run as an Independent or a Republican, Heyworth recalls. His ballot initiative had passed in 2002, and he was in a good position to help either way. He organized a Palin fund raiser and turned over the names of 42,000 voters, largely independents who had signed his petitions.

Heyworth saw in Palin a potential ally against Murkowski, who was negotiating behind the scenes with major gas producers to build a pipeline across Canada--a move that critics feared would give too much away. Palin doubled down on her support for her friend's "all-Alaska gas line," and she soon appeared in full-page newspaper ads across the state, standing between a pair of popular former GOP governors who were also wary of Murkowski's ties to the Big Three. "There was Sarah Palin running with the big dogs," recalls John Bitney, a longtime GOP operative in the state. "It elevated her in stature."

Then Palin saw her opening. In October 2005, Murkowski fired natural resources commissioner Tom Irwin, a well-liked "unreconstructed miner," as one political observer calls him, for opposing concessions won by producers on the gas pipeline. Immediately, six of Irwin's top aides walked out in solidarity. The mass exodus created a firestorm, with editorial writers and politicians extolling the "Magnificent Seven" and calling the mass resignations the "Thursday-afternoon massacre."

Palin sounds like a politician - the Alaskan version of Tom Delay.

 

[Astronuc]

Analysis: Palin's words may backfire on McCain
AP - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081005/ap_on_el_pr/palin_s_words_analysis_5

By claiming that Democrat Barack Obama is "palling around with terrorists" and doesn't see the U.S. like other Americans, vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin targeted key goals for a faltering campaign.

And though she may have scored a political hit each time, her attack was unsubstantiated and carried a racially tinged subtext that John McCain himself may come to regret.

First, Palin's attack shows that her energetic debate with rival Joe Biden may be just the beginning, not the end, of a sharpened role in the battle to win the presidency.

"Our opponent ... is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country," Palin told a group of donors in Englewood, Colo. A deliberate attempt to smear Obama, McCain's ticket-mate echoed the line at three separate events Saturday.

"This is not a man who sees America like you and I see America," she said. "We see America as a force of good in this world. We see an America of exceptionalism."

Her reference to Obama's relationship with William Ayers, a member of the Vietnam-era Weather Underground, was exaggerated at best if not outright false. No evidence shows they were "pals" or even close when they worked on community boards years ago and Ayers hosted a political event for Obama early in his career.

 

[LowlyPion]

Palin sounds like a politician - the Alaskan version of Tom Delay.

I think she has more Huey Long in her myself.

 

[LowlyPion]

Analysis: Palin's words may backfire on McCain

I think so. The charge is specious and without merit, but that hasn't stopped them. They also keep repeating that Franklin Raines of Fannie Mae has been an Obama adviser, despite denials from Raines and Obama Campaign. It seems that the sole basis for the claim is that Raines dropped by the Senator's office when he wasn't even in.

It is notable that she has been making these charges behind closed doors at fund raisers where cameras are not allowed. It looks to be a totally conscious and duplicitous strategy aimed apparently at smearing Obama without regard to the Truth. The surrogates and talking heads have struck up the same themes, and interject these same names and try the same smears, despite each time they are beaten down.

The fact that they are not talking actual policy, but relying on mud to elevate their numbers, seems to be a tactic that can't sustain itself for long. That they have reduced themselves to throwing rocks, means they must be simply out of bullets.

 

[LowlyPion]

"This is not a man who sees America like you and I see America," she said.

This is apparently the code of a renewed appeal to Racism when Palin is delivering these lines to mostly all white audiences.

I think these strategists are despicable practicing the politics of division at a time when the nation as a whole will be making sacrifices. McCain should be ashamed that he has allowed his ambition to outstrip whatever his sense of honor once may have been.

 

[WarPhalange]

Obama should call his campaign bus or plane the "Honor-Mobile".

 

[LowlyPion]

Palin persists in spreading the lie. I think this is a really bad strategy.

Palin defends terrorist comment against Obama
By JIM KUHNHENN Associated Press Writer

Oct 5th, 2008 | LONG BEACH, Calif. -- Sarah Palin is defending her attack on Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama after accusing him of "palling around with terrorists."

The Republican vice presidential nominee on Sunday said it was legitimate to raise Obama's association with 1960s radical Bill Ayers. Ayers and Obama are acquainted, but the charge that they "pal around" is unsubstantiated.

"The comments are about an association that has been known but hasn't been talked about," she said. "It's important to talk about how Barack Obama kicked off his political career in the guy's living room."

 

[LowlyPion]

And imagine that these were the same people yipping about using the phrase "lipstick on a pig".

 

[LowlyPion]

Bush/Palin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svp64jfGZEQ

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Palin persists in spreading the lie. I think this is a really bad strategy.

It is a great strategy is you want Obama to win. I hope they stick with it.

It's the economy, stupid!

- Bill Clinton.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

I keep thinking of this. ...can't imagine why.

 

[Art]

Something I haven't seen mentioned here yet was the blunder Palin made when she was asked about her foreign affairs credentials.

She claimed to have had a meeting with the UK's American ambassador Sir Nigel Sheinwald in July but following a complaint from Sir Nigel, as the meeting never took place, she was forced to apologise to him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...sh-ambassador-took-place-TV-debate-looms.html

 

[Evo]

Something I haven't seen mentioned here yet was the blunder Palin made when she was asked about her foreign affairs credentials.

She claimed to have had a meeting with the UK's American ambassador Sir Nigel Sheinwald in July but following a complaint from Sir Nigel, as the meeting never took place, she was forced to apologise to him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...sh-ambassador-took-place-TV-debate-looms.html

So they took the entire guest list and claimed she had a meeting with all of them? What a fraud!

 

[LowlyPion]

"I find her offensive"

John McCain was making a bid for South Florida's Jewish voters, a crucial demographic in a purple state. But then he chose Sarah Palin as a running mate.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/06/florida/

 

[LowlyPion]

7 State Employees will cooperate with the investigation.
Apparently Todd is still refusing to speak to the Legislative Council, attempting to confuse the public perception by agreeing to be interviewed by the Executive Ethics Committee - Palin appointees - that have been floated as a scheme to forestall the Legislative Council from issuing a report prior to the election.

http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/546971.html

If there is nothing to hide, why are they hiding?

 

[Amp1]

Because ... where there's smoke there is a good chance fire is there also.

Something occurred to me recently, McCain cheated on his wife and Palin has been -according to a less than credible source, the National Enquirer - is said to have cheated on her hubby. Knowing how hard they must be trying- why haven't they tried to smear Obama in that way. Is there nothing for them to uncover?

I know this is off topic. I should probably have started this as a thread.

McCain:
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/16176.html

http://divorcesupport.about.com/b/2008/08/24/mccains-adultery.htm

http://www.nolanchart.com/article2957.html

Palin:

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-77788

http://thepalinreport.com/2008/09/05/sarah-palin-adultery-scandal-affair-with-brad-hanson/

http://www.heartlessandbrainless.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-adultery-edition.html

Obama:
All I've really found are blogs.:

http://chicagoargus.blogspot.com/2008/04/adultery-lesbian-tawdry-sex-oh-wait.html

http://www.redding.com/news/2008/feb/22/who-wears-the-pants-in-democratic-race/

 

[LowlyPion]

October 06, 2008
Press kept under a watchful eye

CLEARWATER -- Constantly under the watchful eyes of security, the media wasn't permitted to wander around inside Coachman Park to talk to Sarah Palin supporters. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head toward the bleachers where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out of nowhere and confront him or her and say, "Can I help you?'' and turn the person around.
When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn't allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday.
-- Times staff writer Eileen Schulte

http://blogs.tampabay.com/breakingnews/2008/10/under-the-watch.html

They act like fascists.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

If proximity to former political radicals makes Obama a terrorist, then might we wonder about a person whose husband wanted to secede from the Union? At the least, we might infer that she doesn't really care about being an American either way. Apparently they have a problem with the Constitution. Why else would she marry someone who doesn't want a Constitution? Maybe their church has a better one.

And why would a person WANT to live so close to the communists, instead of the heartland? Why Vodka over apple pie? And why is it that she seems to like red so much? Hmmmmm. And why does she intend to illegally expand the powers of the VP, like Cheney did. Hmmmmm. Maybe she CAN see Russia from her house.

It will be intersting to see where McCain wants to draw the line.

 

[LowlyPion]

Say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again. You preferenced your whole comment with the Bush administration. Now doggone it, let's look ahead and tell Americans what we have to plan to do for them in the future.

Odd isn't it that after delivering that cutsie sound bite at the debate that Palin is now targeting imagined associations that Obama would have had years ago, associations that he disavows.

And instead of focusing on plans for the future as they say they have an interest, they are burrowing into a slander campaign that shows little regard for the Truth and strives only to divide, rather than inform.

 

[Astronuc]

Interesting piece.

Daley: Don't tar Obama for Ayers
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/04/daley_dont_tar_obama_for_ayers.html
by Mike Dorning and Rick Pearson

Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, whose father was famously not so sympathetic to anti-war protesters, is coming to the defense of Barack Obama for his friendship with former Weather Underground member Bill Ayers.

Daley accused Hillary Clinton and other critics of Obama's association with Ayers of "re-fighting 40 year old battles." And the mayor noted that he, too "know(s) Bill Ayers" and has "worked with" Ayers on city education reforms.

The mayor released the following statement:

There are a lot of reasons that Americans are angry about Washington politics. And one more example is the way Senator Obama’s opponents are playing guilt-by-association, tarring him because he happens to know Bill Ayers.

I also know Bill Ayers. He worked with me in shaping our now nationally-renowned school reform program. He is a nationally-recognized distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois/Chicago and a valued member of the Chicago community.

I don’t condone what he did 40 years ago but I remember that period well. It was a difficult time, but those days are long over. I believe we have too many challenges in Chicago and our country to keep re-fighting 40 year old battles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
Whatever his past, William Ayers is now a professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, holding the honor of Distinguished Professor. Seems like he turned himself around and is now a respectable citizen.

Isn't that what America is all about?

 

[fourier jr]

what about Palin's associations with Alaska secessionists & that Kenyan witch doctor?

 

[Astronuc]

Let Alaska secede. But they have to pay the Federal Government fair market value for the real property and minerals. Let's say $1 trillion, or maybe $5 trillion. Let Alaska raise its own defense forces.


Meanwhile - Sarah’s Pompom Palaver - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/opinion/05dowd.html

. . . .
With her pompom patois and sing-songy jingoism, Palin can bridge contradictory ideas that lead nowhere: One minute she promises to get “greater oversight” by government; the next, she lectures: “Government, you know, you’re not always a solution. In fact, too often you’re the problem.”

Talking at the debate about how she would “positively affect the impacts” of the climate change for which she’s loath to acknowledge human culpability, she did a dizzying verbal loop-de-loop: “With the impacts of climate change, what we can do about that, as governor, I was the first governor to form a climate change subcabinet to start dealing with the impacts.” That was, miraculously, richer with content than an answer she gave Katie Couric: “You know, there are man’s activities that can be contributed to the issues that we’re dealing with now, with these impacts.”

At another point, she channeled Alicia Silverstone debating in “Clueless,” asserting, “Nuclear weaponry, of course, would be the be-all, end-all of just too many people in too many parts of our planet.” (Mostly the end-all.)

A political jukebox, she drowned out Biden’s specifics, offering lifestyle as substance. “In the middle class of America, which is where Todd and I have been, you know, all our lives,” she said, making the middle class sound like it has its own ZIP code, superior to 90210 because “real” rules.

Sometimes, her sentences have a Yoda-like — “When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not” — splendor. When she was asked by Couric if she’d ever negotiated with the Russians, the governor replied that when Putin “rears his head” he is headed for Alaska. Then she uttered yet another sentence that defies diagramming: “It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there.”
. . . .

 

[Amp1]

This is scary post #553

October 06, 2008
Press kept under a watchful eye
…When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn't allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday …

We have a glimpse into the McCain administration. If you found out or knew Bush, especially Cheny were too opaque and secretive – McCain/Palin will hardly be more transparent. In history, what sort of regimes employed those kind of tactics and how did those it affect the population, one class/caste wise and/or in terms of their freedoms (If they had any.)

I could put up links to most recently –Kenya, Nigeria – in the past: the former USSR, China, Columbia – Noam Chomsky’s ‘Rouge State’ ect.

LowlyPion:

They act like fascists.

Yeah, disturbing what may happen.

 

[LowlyPion]

what about Palin's associations with Alaska secessionists & that Kenyan witch doctor?

Keith Oberman mentioned the Reverend Muthee last night saying what do you call someone that goes to a town they are having traffic accidents and camps out and overruns a woman's home and calls her a witch and drives her out of town as a demon for causing those accidents? Sounds like the woman was surely terrorized by such illegality. And Muthee was in his own domestic Kenya. Doesn't that make him a "Domestic Terrorist" in Kenya? And there is that video of Muthee laying his hands on Palin and Praying for her to become Governor?

That makes Palin associating then not so long ago with a known Domestic Terrorist.