Palin pick an insult to our intelligence

[Evo]

How can a Presidential candidate that is taking steps to avoid scrutiny from the press be trusted? If Sarah Palin's opinions are so harmful that she can't be trusted to speak, how can they ask the American public to place her in the position of Vice-president?

 

[Amp1]

Exactly, question number one and Palin opinion's doesn't seem to matter to McCain supporters. Their reluctance and outright shamelessness when lying to the American people isn't paid much attention either, save by critical thinkers.

 

[LowlyPion]

Oct. 7, 2008 | "My government is my worst enemy. I'm going to fight them with any means at hand."

This was former revolutionary terrorist Bill Ayers back in his old Weather Underground days, right? Imagine what Sarah Palin is going to do with this incendiary quote as she tears into Barack Obama this week.

Only one problem. The quote is from Joe Vogler, the raging anti-American who founded the Alaska Independence Party. Inconveniently for Palin, that's the very same secessionist party that her husband, Todd, belonged to for seven years and that she sent a shout-out to as Alaska governor earlier this year. ("Keep up the good work," Palin told AIP members. "And God bless you.")

AIP chairwoman Lynette Clark told me recently that Sarah Palin is her kind of gal. "She's Alaskan to the bone ... she sounds just like Joe Vogler."

...Vogler's greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States "tyranny" before the entire world and to demand Alaska's freedom. The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/

 

[Evo]

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/

Sadly, the vast majority of people voting for McPalin won't ever see any of these articles. We are preaching to the choir.

 

[LowlyPion]

Sadly, the vast majority of people voting for McPalin won't ever see any of these articles. We are preaching to the choir.

That may be.

But at least the music in the church can still be appreciated.

 

[turbo]

Palin wants to bring up Rev. Wright and claim that Obama supported all his rhetoric. Funny thing, though - she was blessed and protected from demons by a laying-on of hands by Rev. Muthee, whose career took off when he went to Kiambu, Kenya, and accused a woman known as "Mama Jane" of witchcraft. He drummed up a riotous crowd against the woman, and the police intervened to keep the crowd from stoning her to death. I'll bet she wishes Rev. Wright had come after her instead.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Sadly, the vast majority of people voting for McPalin won't ever see any of these articles. We are preaching to the choir.

However, we are interested in swing voters and Inds who may be surfing and reading.

I have found myself quoted in at least three different languages [besides English], so I know these things can get around.

 

[LowlyPion]

Hopefully not if she and McCain never get their fingers on the nuclear button.

Munger also asked Palin if she truly believed in the End of Days, the doomsday scenario when the Messiah will return. "She looked in my eyes and said, 'Yes, I think I will see Jesus come back to Earth in my lifetime.'"

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/15/bess/index1.html

 

[phoenixy]

How can a Presidential candidate that is taking steps to avoid scrutiny from the press be trusted? If Sarah Palin's opinions are so harmful that she can't be trusted to speak, how can they ask the American public to place her in the position of Vice-president?

To be fair, Dick Cheney does the same thing. For different reason though.

 

[LowlyPion]

To be fair, Dick Cheney does the same thing. For different reason though.

But the idea is they are supposed to be mavericks and go do their mavericky thing there in Washington. Being like Cheney or Bush is what the whole country is fed up with.

 

[WarPhalange]

She doesn't have to explain to people why she's qualified or what her opinions on various matters are -- she's a maverick!

 

[Math Is Hard]

But the idea is they are supposed to be mavericks and go do their mavericky thing there in Washington. Being like Cheney or Bush is what the whole country is fed up with.

No, McCain is Maverick. Palin is Goose.

 

[LowlyPion]

No, McCain is Maverick. Palin is Goose.

Good one.

 

[LowlyPion]

State to review Palin per diem payments

By BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE
The Associated Press

Published: October 7th, 2008 01:36 PM
Last Modified: October 7th, 2008 01:47 PM

Alaska's top finance officer will review payments made to Gov. Sarah Palin for nights she charged the state for staying in her own home.

Finance Director Kim Garnero said she must determine whether the payments made to Palin in the future should be considered income.

Garnero said, "That's something we need to confer with the governor's office on."

Palin has received more than $17,000 in per diem payments since taking office in December 2006 for 312 nights she stayed in her Wasilla home about an hour's drive from Anchorage. The state provides a home for the governor in Juneau.

Garnero said her review would look at future payments, not those already made.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/548647.html

Though it seems that the IRS should also be considering a similar treatment for past failures to claim it as income.

 

[fourier jr]

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/

Sadly, the vast majority of people voting for McPalin won't ever see any of these articles. We are preaching to the choir.

That may be.

But at least the music in the church can still be appreciated.

If Obama or his campaign, or anyone else brought that up Palin (if she could think of anything to say) would probably try to say it's somehow different. I can see that happening.

 

[Evo]

Hopefully not if she and McCain never get their fingers on the nuclear button.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/15/bess/index1.html

How can anyone vote for McCain as long as this person is his running mate? I seriously can't fathom someone not being terrified at the thought.

I think McCain believes that he will survive the next 4 years and that if elected he will turn his back on Palin. I personally don't want to take that chance.

 

[Gokul43201]

Hopefully not if she and McCain never get their fingers on the nuclear button.

Munger also asked Palin if she truly believed in the End of Days, the doomsday scenario when the Messiah will return. "She looked in my eyes and said, 'Yes, I think I will see Jesus come back to Earth in my lifetime.'"

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/15/bess/index1.html

On the most recent Real Time, Bill Maher had this to say, approximately:

Sarah Palin has said, and I quote, "I think I will see Jesus come back to Earth in my lifetime", to which my response is, "Hasn't Jesus suffered enough?"

One big concern I have with an end-times believer like Palin who would love to be with Jesus is that she might not have any good motivation for preventing something like a nuclear war. How can we imagine having someone in charge that could possibly be welcoming of a nuclear holocaust?

And what happens if a highly revered Godman says that he heard directly from God that a big terrorist attack on the US is expected? Would Palin believe that acting on intelligence to prevent an attack would only be an immoral and futile attempt to subvert the will of God?

In what has become an annual tradition of prognostications, religious broadcaster Pat Robertson predicted Tuesday that a terrorist attack on the United States would result in “mass killing” late in 2007.

“I’m not necessarily saying it’s going to be nuclear,” he said during his news-and-talk television show “The 700 Club” on the Christian Broadcasting Network. “The Lord didn’t say nuclear. But I do believe it will be something like that.”

Robertson said God told him during a recent prayer retreat that major cities and possibly millions of people will be affected by the attack, which should take place sometime after September.

 

[LowlyPion]

Palin Palling around with Secessionists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its

 

[LowlyPion]

Call Off the Pit Bull
By Kathleen Parker
Wednesday, October 8, 2008; 12:00 AM
Palin's performance, notwithstanding her adorable dodges of questions she didn't like, was essentially a cri de coeur to America's non-elite.

...Democrats and other critics distracted by her winks may have missed the message, but Palin's target audience heard it loud and clear. She is like the high-pitched whistle only dogs can hear. While Democrats heard non-answers, superfluous segues and cartoon words -- shout-out, I'll betcha, doggone, extra credit -- Republicans heard God, patriotism, courage, victory.

...The McCain campaign knows that Obama isn't a Muslim or a terrorist, but they're willing to help a certain kind of voter think he is. Just the way certain South Carolinians in 2000 were allowed to think that McCain's adopted daughter from Bangladesh was his illegitimate black child.

But words can have more serious consequences than lost votes and we've already had a glimpse of the Palin effect.

The Post's Dana Milbank reported that media representatives in Clearwater were greeted with taunts, thunder sticks and profanity. One Palin supporter shouted an epithet at an African-American soundman and said, "Sit down, boy."

McCain may want to call off his pit bull before this war escalates.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/07/AR2008100702436.html

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Palin Palling around with Secessionists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its

So her friends fundamentally hate America and all that it stands for - even before Bush - and they explicitly say so! They don't say God damn America if it doesn't stop certain indefensible activities, as Rev Wright did, they just say to hell with America.

So there you go:

The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American Government, and I won't be buried under their damned flag!

-The friends of Sarah Palin

 

[rootX]

Madonna hate Palin and she yelled that at her concert.
Anyone heard of that?

I wonder how Palin will react if she becomes Vice president.



:http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/10/madonna-bans-sa.html

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Palin Palling around with Secessionists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its

Whoops! That accidentally got emailed to an Obama supporter at CNN.

 

[LowlyPion]

Arguments were submitted today in the Troopergate suppression motion filed with the Alaska Supreme Court. According to the Court they will rule before 5:00PM tomorrow.

High court to rule quickly on Palin investigation
The Associated Press

Alaska's Supreme Court says it will rule quickly on whether to shut down an abuse-of-power investigation into Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

Friday is the deadline for lawmakers to receive an investigative report into whether the Alaska governor abused her authority by firing her public safety commissioner. Critics claim she fired him because he wouldn't dismiss a state trooper who had gone through a nasty divorce with her sister.

In court today, an attorney for five Republican lawmakers said the probe is a front for politicians trying to embarrass Palin.

Palin is a party to the lawsuit. Her husband and top aides recently agreed to cooperate with the probe.

http://www.adn.com/palin/story/550099.html

 

[Astronuc]

David Gergen mentioned tonight on CNN, that John McCain should instruct Palin to stop when people yell out "Terrorist" or "Kill him", and she denounce such hate speech. Of course, Palin should stop encouraging (inciting?) such speech too.

 

[LowlyPion]

David Gergen mentioned tonight on CNN, that John McCain should instruct Palin to stop when people yell out "Terrorist" or "Kill him", and she denounce such hate speech. Of course, Palin should stop encouraging (inciting?) such speech too.

I think that is her currency in trade. The worst of populism. The divisiveness. That's the only engine they have now. They are flunked on the issues on my grading sheet.

 

[LowlyPion]

Here is the link to Todd Palin's interrogatories submitted yesterday.

http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/10/08/19/Todd_Palin_s_Subpoena_Responses_10-8-081.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf

25 pages of obsessive behavior reflected in Todd Palins responses looks like to me. Plus he threw in the Restraining order and private investigations he and Sarah made of his ex-brother in law over a couple of years.

My opinion is that the Palins are the creepy ones. Not that the ex-brother in law was much of a prize. Likely he fit right in at Christmas.

 

[LowlyPion]

This is apparently the linchpin of the Carpetbaggers arguments before the Alaska Supreme Court.

Later, Justice Robert Eastaugh asked, "What are we to make of the fact" that a bipartisan panel voted unanimously to conduct the investigation?

Clarkson said the investigation has lost focus, that lawmakers exceeded their authority in launching it, and that it should be delayed until they can do a proper investigation for a constitutionally valid purpose -- making or changing laws.

http://www.adn.com/politics/story/550352.html

That answer is so clearly unpersuasive as to any Judicial merit in meddling with the separation of powers, that I can't see the Alaska Supreme Court doing anything but affirming the Superior Court ruling that the Investigation may run its course.

 

[turbo]

Monday afternoon, at a luncheon celebrating a redesign of "The Atlantic", conservative David Brooks called Palin "a fatal cancer to the Republican party." He went on to explain that she is an anti-intellectual, who does not just oppose liberal ideas, but ideas in general.

 

[LowlyPion]

I doubt that it will turn into "Car Seat Gate" but this vignette demonstrates to me Palin's pettiness.

He also suggested there was bad blood between the governor and Monegan over two other matters:

• An inquiry from Monegan to the governor about whether she once failed to put her Trig, her infant, in a car seat while she was driving.

• The unavailability of a state trooper airplane for the governor's use when traveling to the Bush.

On the car seat, Monegan sent an e-mail to the governor on June 30, 12 days before he lost his job, that said: "Via a soon-to-be-retiring legislator, we received a complaint that had you driving with Trig not in an approved car seat; if this is so that would be awkward in many ways."

The governor fired back from her private e-mail account: "I've never driven Trig anywhere without a new, approved car seat. I want to know who said otherwise -- pls provide me that info now."

Todd Palin, in his sworn statement, said this was a "false rumor," and that the governor was a passenger in a truck, "on a private farm road without traffic at low speed."

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/550229.html

Looks to me like Monegan does her the favor of letting her know about a possible embarrassment, and she turns around and demands to know who said that. And demands it NOW. Rather than thank him for the heads up, she would seek retribution? She would demand to know communications that would have been provided in confidence? How is it possible that there could be any bad blood, protecting her from herself?

That to me is emblematic of the rather extreme likelihood that Monegan was indeed fired because he failed to fire her ex-brother in law, and rightly refused to do so because the appropriate channels for recourse had already been exhausted. The personnel commission and the Police Union reached an appropriate agreement to cover the matters at question. I rather suppose that to supersede that would have resulted in Monegan himself breaking the law.

Todd Palin had this additional to say in his interrogatories:

I was aware that Sarah was not happy with the report. Sarah was having difficulty finding out who had actually authored it and who was going to take responsibility for it... I am not sure Monegan ever responded to the Governor's direct order.

Wouldn't you think that a Governor would have more to do than worry about who might have reported her for not driving her child around in a car seat?

 

[LowlyPion]

So we hear about selling the State Jet, but turns out that Palin still expects the "royal" treatment on using the Public Safety plane.

On the trooper airplane, "It seemed that whenever Sarah needed this plane, it was unavailable," Todd Palin said. "We were concerned that the Department of Public Safety was retaliating against Sarah for selling the Murkowski jet that Department of Public Safety officials enjoyed using." In 2007, the governor sold a jet her predecessor, Frank Murkowski, bought in a controversial defiance of the Legislature.

Maybe this was why Murkowski bought the Jet in the first place?

 

[Evo]

If this was posted here earlier, I missed it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20081006/ts_ynews/ynews_ts57

 

[LowlyPion]

Look for the Troopergate Report tomorrow probably about 6:00PM Eastern.

Supreme Court won't block Troopergate inquiry

By SEAN COCKERHAM
Published: October 9th, 2008 01:06 PM
Last Modified: October 9th, 2008 01:06 PM

The Alaska Supreme Court today rejected an attempt by a group of six Republican legislators to shut down the Legislature's investigation of Gov. Sarah Palin.

The ruling means that Steve Branchflower, the investigator hired by the Legislative Council, will release his report as scheduled on Friday. Branchflower is looking into Palin's dismissal of her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, and whether she improperly pressured him to fire a state trooper divorced from her sister.

The state Supreme Court rejected an appeal by Texas-based Liberty Legal Institute and Anchorage attorney Kevin Clarkson, who filed the lawsuit on behalf of the Alaska Republican state legislators opposed to their colleagues' investigation.

The state legislators whose names appeared on the appeal attempting to stop the investigation are Wes Keller, Mike Kelly, Fred Dyson, Tom Wagoner, Carl Gatto and Bob Lynn.

Their lawyers argued that allowing the investigation to proceed would threaten the right under the Alaska Constitution to a "fair and just" investigation by the Legislature. They allege bias among the legislators who are leading the investigation, and that the Legislative Council lacks the authority to order the probe.

Anchorage Superior Court Judge Michalski ruled last week that the conduct of the investigation did not violate the right to fairness. He found the Legislature has the right to investigate and issues like whether it happens through a council or committee are not for the courts to decide and is "business to be left to the legislative branch."

The Alaska Supreme Court today upheld Michalski's ruling in a two-page decision. The court clerk, Marilyn May, wrote that a full opinion explaining why would be coming.

http://www.adn.com/palin/story/550940.html

 

[LowlyPion]

It is Ordered: The order of the superior court issued on October 2, 2008 granting the Motion to Dismiss is Affirmed. An opinion will follow.
Entered at the direction of the full court.​

http://media.adn.com/smedia/2008/10/09/12/AK001__2_.source.prod_affiliate.7.pdf

 

[Evo]

Am I reading this wrong? This says that the "Motion to Dismiss" is affirmed", that the Motion to Dismiss has been granted. I guess I have this confused. Is the "motion to Dismiss" allowing the investigation?

 

[Art]

Am I reading this wrong? This says that the "Motion to Dismiss is affirmed" that the Motion to Dismiss has been granted

So it says. It means they have upheld the decision of the lower court which puts Palin back in the spotlight again as the inquiry will now continue.