Palin pick an insult to our intelligence

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In summary: I guess you could say that I was surprised that the information released about her turned out to be such a non-issue to the American people. In summary, the VP pick of Sarah Palin has been largely successful in attracting women voters to the McCain campaign. However, the media's initial response was mostly in support of Mrs. Palin, and there was little questioning of her ability or experience.
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Evo said:
AP INVESTIGATION: Palin pipeline terms curbed bids

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081025/ap_on_el_pr/palin_pipeline

Of course all the lobbyists are likely in bed with each other. But that aside, I wonder why it is that after letting this contract to a Canadian Firm why there has never been any question about shipping that 1/2 Billion $ to Canada as opposed to an American firm, especially at a time of economic stress?
 
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Now sources close to Palin are blaming Republican strategists for botching the roll out of her candidacy.

It just doesn't stop.

Meanwhile the highest paid consultant with the McCain Campaign is Palin's stylist at $11,000 a week. McCain's Foreign Policy Adviser is only at $6,000 a week.
 
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"Spread the weath! Tax the rich and give it to the poor!"
"That's socialism!"

I'm paraphrasing Palin!
Is Palin a socialist or a capitalist?
You judge ... why is taking money from the rich oil company and giving it to the people of Alaska not considered socialism?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081025/ap_on_el_pr/palin_pipeline
Not only does that oil provide jobs, it pays for an annual dividend check to nearly every Alaska resident. This year's payment was $2,069, 25 percent higher than 2007 — plus a $1,200 bonus rebate to help offset higher energy costs.
 
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It's only socialism if they are taking money off you - it's a dividend if they are giving money to you.
 
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jal said:
Is Palin a socialist or a capitalist?
You judge ... why is taking money from the rich oil company and giving it to the people of Alaska not considered socialism?

That's not Socialism so much as it is Opportunism. Like how many votes do the oil companies represent?

And besides it sounds like a mavericky thing to do.
 
  • #776
That's not Socialism so much as it is Opportunism.
In that case there are no capitalist and no socialist.
Nobody has a philosophy or an understanding of the meaning of those words when applied in "real life".
Therefore, I can only conclude that she is only "mouthing" words, just like most people.
 
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jal said:
In that case there are no capitalist and no socialist.
Nobody has a philosophy or an understanding of the meaning of those words when applied in "real life".
Therefore, I can only conclude that she is only "mouthing" words, just like most people.

We aren't going to get anything other than simple themes and slogans during a campaign (unfortunately). Political campaigns are basically built on straw men.
 
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The Vet Who Did Not Vet

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=03fcGelz8Hw

It rhymes. This song is very well made.


vlad and friend boris presents 'Song for Sarah' for mrs. Palin



This one, not so much. But still Palin picked up some endorsement from Russian neighbors.
 
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Funny, as her popularity disappears, so do her glamour shots. This is after $22,000 worth of stage makeup?
 

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Her $11K+ per week makeup artist has been troweling on the rouge, and while you might be able to get away with excess in some shots, it can look pretty ugly from some angles. This particular shot (looking upward) belies the use of rouge as a substitute for high cheekbones.

I am not a makeup artist, but I spent a bit of time free-lancing in my spare time taking graduation photos. The girls would often bring a friend to help with hair, makeup, etc, and I have had to intervene (gently) when they got a bit over-the-top.
 
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My suspicion is that Palin's trip back from the pinnacle won't be nearly as much fun as the glamor of the ascent.

She is scheduled to be with McCain in Arizona on Election night. I suspect that the trip back home to Alaska - a state that has had more than an eyeful of her over the course of the campaign - won't be quite the homecoming she would once have imagined.

She can retreat to the confines of her tanning table in an effort to stave off the Post-Campaign Partum going into the long Winter's night.
 
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turbo-1 said:
Her $11K+ per week makeup artist has been troweling on the rouge, and while you might be able to get away with excess in some shots, it can look pretty ugly from some angles. This particular shot (looking upward) belies the use of rouge as a substitute for high cheekbones.

I am not a makeup artist, but I spent a bit of time free-lancing in my spare time taking graduation photos. The girls would often bring a friend to help with hair, makeup, etc, and I have had to intervene (gently) when they got a bit over-the-top.
I can imagine how scary it looks up close. Looks like someone hit her in the face. This is funny because of the near psycho reaction some McCain people had to that Newsweek cover photo of her where they hadn't airbrushed out her wrinkles, saggy jaws, facial hair, and skin discolorations. They (campain people) made this an issue.
 
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LowlyPion said:
That's not Socialism so much as it is Opportunism. Like how many votes do the oil companies represent?

Socialism is opportunism.
 
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OUCH

The Palin Effect, Republican (and newspaper) that endorsed Obama due to Palin

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/fullpage/the-palin-effec.php

You can use mouseover to get citations.
 
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John Cleese on Sarah Palin
 
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I am actually quite upset at this Palin phenomenon. And I lived through Nixon and Lewis Hershey, and lots of others. But this time we have seen a complete fraud of a candidate who couldn't convince a tenth grader of her qualifications, nevertheless attain instant acceptance by a rather large segment of the US electorate.

This is scary. This election makes me think of Europe in the 30's, when bigots mobilized the support of ignoramuses and hate mongers and actually took power, as self professed bigots. And all while John McCain somehow maintains an image of a man of integrity?

By embracing them, he has made it more likely that the worst element of the Republican party will become even more influential in that party in future. The most scurrilous thing a man of former integrity can do, is to lend some of that reputation to evil minded people, just because he can't get any other group to support him enthusiastically.

How can anyone respect John McCain or Sarah Palin today? Has our political system always functioned based on emphasizing fear and stupidity?
 
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Palin's rating down the toilet.

Growing Doubts on Palin Take a Toll, Poll Finds

A growing number of voters have concluded that Senator John McCain’s running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska, is not qualified to be vice president, weighing down the Republican ticket in the last days of the campaign, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.

All told, 59 percent of voters surveyed said Ms. Palin was not prepared for the job, up nine percentage points since the beginning of the month. Nearly a third of voters polled said the vice-presidential selection would be a major factor influencing their vote for president, and those voters broadly favor Senator Barack Obama, the Democratic nominee.

And in a possible indication that the choice of Ms. Palin has hurt Mr. McCain’s image, voters said they had much more confidence in Mr. Obama to pick qualified people for his administration than they did in Mr. McCain.

While a majority viewed Ms. Palin as unqualified for the vice presidency, roughly three-quarters of voters saw Mr. Obama’s running mate, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, as qualified for the job. The increase in the number of voters who said Ms. Palin was not prepared was driven almost entirely by Republicans and independents.

Over all, views of Ms. Palin were apparently shaped more by ideology and party than by gender. Ms. Palin was viewed as unprepared for the job by about 6 in 10 men and women alike. But 8 in 10 Democrats viewed her as unprepared, as well as more than 6 in 10 independents and 3 in 10 Republicans.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/us/politics/31poll.html
 
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I hope my mother (in OH!) is among those that have now seen the light. I originally upset her by some anti-Palin remarks, hoping to sway her to Obama-land. I've hesitated to discuss politics since. I'll focus on my brother (OH) and sister (MI) this weekend instead. I suspect my sister's at least leaning Obama if not full-fledged -- I just can't see anyone with a Ph.D. supporting a ticket with Palin (despite the fact that I'm sure they are out there, esp. based on the Chronicle of Higher Ed's report on campaign contributions from faculty, which while heavy to Obama's side has a fair amount to McCain also).
 
  • #789
intellect ≠ wisdom.
 
  • #790
Larry Eagleburger speaks out on Palin.

With supporters like this, who needs enemies?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYmABim_loo
 
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McCain's response is that Eagleburger hasn't had a chance to meet her?

Eagleburger's opinion would have been harsher if he had??
 
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LightbulbSun said:

Sadly the claim that they will be bi-partisan and "reach across the aisle" when they have run such a negative and divisive campaign, involving themselves with vote suppression tactics as their only apparent road to the White House is so incredibly hypocritical.

I think if they are looking for reasons for why they are reviled, and their own negatives are so high, they need look no further than themselves.
 
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turbo-1 said:
Apparently, Palin believes that when the press claims that Palin is launching negative attacks against Obama, the press is abridging her first amendment rights... Boy, what a good VP pick, McCain! You've got a real constitutional scholar on the ticket.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/10/31/palin/index.html

I love how people nowadays interpret the first amendment as being anti-censure. It's ridiculous.
 
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astronuc, thank you for that great john cleese link. maybe i can send my children something cool on youtube that they have not seen first!
 
  • #797
That image of Lawrence Eagleberger reminds of Sam Eagle on the Muppet Show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDA9NbPAK8o :biggrin:
 
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LightbulbSun said:
I love how people nowadays interpret the first amendment as being anti-censure. It's ridiculous.

Here is the audio of her comment.

http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/archives/Palin.mp3

It's painful to think that those that are supposed to be leading the country have such little grasp of the fundamentals of the Constitution.

Too bad she is so mentally lazy in not reading and understanding the Constitution that she would be charged to serve were she to assume office.

That does it. I'm fed up. McCain Palin won't get my vote now.
 
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LowlyPion said:
That does it. I'm fed up. McCain Palin won't get my vote now.

That decided it for you, eh?
 
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NeoDevin said:
That decided it for you, eh?

I've been pretty much on the fence. Couldn't you tell?
 
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LowlyPion said:
I've been pretty much on the fence. Couldn't you tell?

lol - You're not a Fence Post Turtle are you?

Just as a funny, I'll pass this along.


While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Sarah Palin and her bid to be a heartbeat away from being President.

The old rancher said, ' Well, you know, Palin is a post turtle.'

Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a post turtle was.

The old rancher said, ' When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post turtle.'

The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain.

'You know she didn't get up there by herself, she doesn't belong up there, she doesn’t 't know what to do while she is up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb *** put her up there to begin with.'


:)
 
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Alfi said:
lol - You're not a Fence Post Turtle are you?

Just as a funny, I'll pass this along. While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Sarah Palin and her bid to be a heartbeat away from being President.

The old rancher said, ' Well, you know, Palin is a post turtle.'

Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a post turtle was.

The old rancher said, ' When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post turtle.'

The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain.

'You know she didn't get up there by herself, she doesn't belong up there, she doesn’t 't know what to do while she is up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb *** put her up there to begin with.':)

Very funny. Thanks for posting it.
 
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Aahhahahah. Post Turtle. <chortle, chortle, snork>
 
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I hope that you all know more about Canada than Palin even if its not just across the border next door.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081101.wqueduo1101/BNStory/usElection2008/home
Quebec comedy duo prank call Palin
JESSICA MURPHY
The Canadian Press
November 1, 2008 at 5:56 PM EDT
MONTREAL — In an over-the-top accent, one half of a notorious Quebec comedy duo claims to be the president of France as he describes sex with his famous wife, the joy of killing animals and Hustler magazine's latest Sarah Palin porno spoof.
At the other end of the line? An oblivious Sarah Palin.
The Masked Avengers, a radio pairing notorious for prank calls to celebrities and heads of state, notched its latest victory Saturday when it released a recording of a six-minute call with Ms. Palin, who thought she was talking with Nicolas Sarkozy.
Throughout the call, which was making the rounds in U.S. political circles by day's end Saturday, Ms. Palin and the pranksters discuss politics, pundits, and the perils of going hunting with Vice-President Dick Cheney.
“We have such great respect for you, John McCain and I, we love you,” Ms. Palin gushes, evidently unaware she's speaking to an infamous Quebec comedian named Marc-Antoine Audette.
At one point, Ms. Palin even comes close to confirming her intention to one day run for president, when Mr. Audette slyly remarks he can see her taking over the big desk in the Oval office.
“Maybe in eight years,” she replies with a nervous chuckle.
Over the course of the interview, Ms. Palin doesn't seem to realize she's being tricked until Mr. Audette comes clean near the end of the call.
“Ohhhh . . . have we been pranked?” she says. Seconds later, Ms. Palin's aide can be heard taking the phone before the line goes dead.
Throughout the conversation, Mr. Audette drops plenty of clues that something's amiss.
He identifies French singer and actor Johnny Hallyday as his special adviser to the U.S., singer Stef Carse as Canada's prime minister and Quebec comedian and radio host Richard Z. Sirois as the provincial premier.
“We should go hunting together,” Ms. Palin offers when Mr. Audette professes a love of hunting — or, more precisely, killing animals. “We can have a lot of fun together while we're getting work done. We could kill two birds with one stone.”
Mr. Audette then jokes that they shouldn't bring Mr. Cheney on the hunt, referring to the 2006 incident in which the vice-president shot and injured a friend while hunting quail.
“I'll be a careful shot,” responds Ms. Palin, who praises Mr. Sarkozy throughout the call.
“I look forward to working with you and getting to meet you personally — and your beautiful wife, oh my goodness,” she says.
“You've added a lot of energy to your country with that beautiful family of yours.”
Mr. Audette then tells her his wife, Carla Bruni, a singer and former model, was jealous to hear Mr. Sarkozy would be speaking to Ms. Palin.
“Give her a big hug for me,” Ms. Palin responds.
Mr. Audette goes on to describe Ms. Bruni as “hot in bed” and claims she's written a song for Ms. Palin, the French title of which translates as “Lipstick on a Pig.” In English, Mr. Audette says the song is about Joe the Plumber.
Finally, he mentions a notorious Hustler video titled “Nailin' Paylin,” describing it as “the documentary they made on your life.”
“Oh, good, thank you, yes,” Ms. Palin replies.
“That was really edgy,” Mr. Audette says.
“Well, good.”
In an interview Saturday, Mr. Audette told The Canadian Press it wasn't easy setting up the interview with Republican presidential candidate John McCain's running mate, and described the accomplishment as the pair's biggest triumph to date.
“It really took a lot of work,” he said.
“We had to go through the Secret Service, the people in her entourage. It's the biggest coup so far. We're proud to add (this prank) to our top hits.”
It took the pair, known for securing surreptitious interviews with celebrities, politicians and heads of state, five days to set up the call, Mr. Audette said. The secret to getting powerful people on the line? Time and persistence.
“I wanted to see how (Ms. Palin) was on an intellectual level,” Mr. Audette said, comparing the latest prank to the duo's crank call with pop idol Britney Spears.
“You can see that she's, well, not really brilliant.”
In a statement Saturday, Ms. Palin's team said the vice-presidential nominee was “mildly amused” to learn she was the victim of a prank.
“Gov. Palin was mildly amused to learn that she had joined the ranks of heads of state, including President Sarkozy, and other celebrities in being targeted by these pranksters,” said spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt.
“C'est la vie.”
Mr. Audette, too, was contrite afterward.
“I hope we won't have a one-way ticket to Guantanamo Bay.”
The well-known radio prankster duo of Mr. Audette and Sebastien Trudel have most recently tricked Rolling Stones singer Mick Jagger. Other celebrity victims include Ms. Spears and Bill Gates.
In 2007, they conned Mr. Sarkozy himself by impersonating Prime Minister Stephen Harper. And their 2006 call to former French president Jacques Chirac was rated by the BBC as one of the top 30 all-time best moments in radio history.
Known as the “Masked Avengers,” they've been popular on the Quebec comedy scene for a decade.
The Avengers, who have a regular show on Montreal radio station CKOI, will air the full interview on the eve of the U.S. elections. It can also be heard in full on their website www.justiciers.tv
 
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jal said:
I hope that you all know more about Canada than Palin even if its not just across the border next door.
Thank you Masked Avengers.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/b/20...prank-call.htm

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...-punkd-by.html

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