Palin pick an insult to our intelligence

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In summary: I guess you could say that I was surprised that the information released about her turned out to be such a non-issue to the American people. In summary, the VP pick of Sarah Palin has been largely successful in attracting women voters to the McCain campaign. However, the media's initial response was mostly in support of Mrs. Palin, and there was little questioning of her ability or experience.
  • #701
mathwonk said:
to me it makes no sense to delete one sided links since there are one sided links for both sides, and both can be linked here. why not let us read them and decide for ourselves how biased it is?

It was an opinion piece on the Huffington website by Max Blumenthal.

And surprisingly it was not complimentary to Palins record with minorities. You can view it there still I'm sure.

I wouldn't want to say anything more about it lest I get the original poster in further trouble.
 
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  • #702
Ivan Seeking said:
McCain taking heat from Bush strategist, Matthew Dowd, for his Palin pick.


http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/conservatives-k.html

So, is it fair to call Sarah Palin the "party boobytrap"?

Wooa, that's a palindrome! :bugeye:
 
  • #703
BobG said:
So, is it fair to call Sarah Palin the "party boobytrap"?

Wooa, that's a palindrome! :bugeye:
Home run, BobG!
 
  • #704
BobG said:
So, is it fair to call Sarah Palin the "party boobytrap"?

Wooa, that's a palindrome! :bugeye:
Nice! :approve:
 
  • #705
Palin thinks New Hampshire is in the northwest... Oops! Didn't she learn the beauty pageant wisdom about having maps?

 
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  • #706
If a Putin raises its head in Russian airspace and no one is there to see it ...
CNN said:
October 15, 2008
Palin unaware of Russian energy meeting in Alaska
Posted: 12:45 PM ET

DOVER, New Hampshire (CNN) – The campaign of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin said the Alaska governor was unaware of a visit by Russian energy officials to Anchorage on Monday.

Eight high-level officials from Gazprom, Russia’s state-controlled energy conglomerate, traveled to Anchorage earlier this week to meet with the Alaska Department of Natural Resources and the chief executive of ConocoPhillips to discuss energy projects and the possibility of expanding into new markets.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/15/palin-unaware-of-russian-energ-meeting-in-alaska/
 
  • #707
Wow, she's really in touch with her subordinates and boy, golly she's got her finger on them Ruskies.

:smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::smile::
 
  • #708
Some Palin supporters in Ohio. I'm sure the interviews were cherry-picked to point out the loons, but the fact that people would say some of these things with a camera rolling is disturbing at the least.

 
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  • #710
turbo-1 said:
Some Palin supporters in Ohio. I'm sure the interviews were cherry-picked to point out the loons, but the fact that people would say some of these things with a camera rolling is disturbing at the least.



Hello, silly season.
 
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  • #711
Peggy Noonan on the Vulgarization by Palin.
Peggy_Noonan said:
Here is a fact of life that is also a fact of politics: You have to hold open the possibility of magic. People can come from nowhere, with modest backgrounds and short résumés, and yet be individuals of real gifts, gifts that had previously been unseen, that had been gleaming quietly under a bushel, and are suddenly revealed. Mrs. Palin came, essentially, from nowhere. But there was a man who came from nowhere, the seeming tool of a political machine, a tidy, narrow, unsophisticated senator appointed to high office and then thrust into power by a careless Franklin D. Roosevelt, whose vanity told him he would live forever. And yet that limited little man was Harry S Truman. Of the Marshall Plan, of containment. Little Harry was big. He had magic. You have to give people time to show what they have. Because maybe they have magic too.

But we have seen Mrs. Palin on the national stage for seven weeks now, and there is little sign that she has the tools, the equipment, the knowledge or the philosophical grounding one hopes for, and expects, in a holder of high office. She is a person of great ambition, but the question remains: What is the purpose of the ambition? She wants to rise, but what for? For seven weeks I’ve listened to her, trying to understand if she is Bushian or Reaganite—a spender, to speak briefly, whose political decisions seem untethered to a political philosophy, and whose foreign policy is shaped by a certain emotionalism, or a conservative whose principles are rooted in philosophy, and whose foreign policy leans more toward what might be called romantic realism, and that is speak truth, know America, be America, move diplomatically, respect public opinion, and move within an awareness and appreciation of reality.

But it’s unclear whether she is Bushian or Reaganite. She doesn’t think aloud. She just . . . says things.

Her supporters accuse her critics of snobbery: Maybe she’s not a big “egghead” but she has brilliant instincts and inner toughness. But what instincts? “I’m Joe Six-Pack”? She does not speak seriously but attempts to excite sensation—“palling around with terrorists.” If the Ayers case is a serious issue, treat it seriously. She is not as thoughtful or persuasive as Joe the Plumber, who in an extended cable interview Thursday made a better case for the Republican ticket than the Republican ticket has made. In the past two weeks she has spent her time throwing out tinny lines to crowds she doesn’t, really, understand. This is not a leader, this is a follower, and she follows what she imagines is the base, which is in fact a vast and broken-hearted thing whose pain she cannot, actually, imagine. She could reinspire and reinspirit; she chooses merely to excite. She doesn’t seem to understand the implications of her own thoughts.

No news conferences? Interviews now only with friendly journalists? You can’t be president or vice president and govern in that style, as a sequestered figure. This has been Mr. Bush’s style the past few years, and see where it got us. You must address America in its entirety, not as a sliver or a series of slivers but as a full and whole entity, a great nation trying to hold together. When you don’t, when you play only to your little piece, you contribute to its fracturing.

In the end the Palin candidacy is a symptom and expression of a new vulgarization in American politics. It’s no good, not for conservatism and not for the country. And yes, it is a mark against John McCain, against his judgment and idealism.
http://www.peggynoonan.com/article.php?article=438
 
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  • #712
McCain could have picked Peggy Noonan as his running mate! She wrote speeches for Reagan and George HW Bush.

Noonan is more qualified than Palin!
 
  • #713
Astronuc said:
McCain could have picked Peggy Noonan as his running mate! She wrote speeches for Reagan and George HW Bush.

Noonan is more qualified than Palin!

Peggy Noonan is not without her own problems I think. But her primary problem is that she has no great unwashed constituency that she could bring to the bottom line vote count. The Palin pick is really an appeal to the basest of human instincts and a willingness to use about any means to get to the office.

Peggy and Kathleen Parker, and Buckley and George Will and others have been rightly put off by the snarling irrational hate mongers like Buchannan and Coulter and their enablers like Hannity and Limbaugh and O'Reilly.

Having been exposed to the snarling teeth of these doberman attackbots, the country and the more intellectual conservatives that they have co-opted have hopefully turned away now from their vision of a divided future.
 
  • #714
ADN said:
Hot-selling mystery author Dana Stabenow was asked by Toronto's Globe and Mail to recommend three books that would help Canadians better understand Alaska -- and perhaps Sarah Palin. "Impossible," Stabenow eventually responded. "How about three bumper stickers instead?"
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/newsreader/story/561714.html
 
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  • #715
ADN said:
TROOPERGATE: Meeting this week will be held out of state.

By RACHEL D'ORO
The Associated Press

Published: October 20th, 2008 12:02 AM
Last Modified: October 20th, 2008 12:35 AM

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her husband will meet this week with an investigator determining whether she violated state ethics law when firing her public safety commissioner.

Thomas Van Flein, the attorney for both Sarah and Todd Palin, said Sunday the separate depositions by an attorney for the Alaska Personnel Board will be held out of state. The investigator, Timothy Petumenos, will fly to meet the Palins.

Van Flein declined to say exactly when or where the interviews will be held, only that they will occur later in the week.

"I estimate each interview will take about three hours," he said.
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/561465.html

This may end up being more trouble than originally anticipated. How ironic if they brought charges against her for breaking the law.
 
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  • #716
Somebody should ask McCain if he plans on pardoning her if he gets elected. That should get an interesting response.
 
  • #718
ADN said:
Palin breaks with McCain on gay marriage amendment
SAME-SEX UNIONS: Alaska governor would support a nationwide ban.

The Associated Press
Published: October 20th, 2008 10:38 PM
Last Modified: October 20th, 2008 11:30 PM

NEW YORK -- Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin says she supports a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, a break with John McCain who has said he believes states should be left to define what marriage is.

In an interview with Christian Broadcasting Network, the Alaska governor said she had voted in 1998 for a state amendment banning same sex marriage and hoped to see a federal ban on such unions.

"I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that's where we would go. I don't support gay marriage," Palin said. She said she believed traditional marriage is the foundation for strong families.

McCain, an Arizona senator, is supporting a ballot initiative in his state this year that would ban gay marriage. But he has consistently and forcefully opposed a federal marriage amendment, saying it would usurp states' authority on such matters.
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/562423.html
 
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  • #719
There she goes again rewriting the Constitution Cheney style - on her own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA

I'm sure the "Piper" is just so proud of her mom.

Imagine how surprised she will be to learn in class someday that mom didn't know what the gosh darn she was talking about.
 
  • #720
The VP is in charge of the Senate? Hmm, the VP gets to ceremoniously gavel the Senate into session, and can cast a tie-breaker vote if necessary. What is left for the Senate Majority Leader and the Senate Minority Leader and their staffs to do if Queen Sarah takes over? She has less of a clue than many grade-school kids.
 
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AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel

These people are suppose to be anti-corruption?
 
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  • #722
turbo-1 said:
The VP is in charge of the Senate? Hmm, the VP gets to ceremoniously gavel the Senate into session, and can cast a tie-breaker vote if necessary. What is left for the Senate Majority Leader and the Senate Minority Leader and their staffs to do if Queen Sarah takes over? She has less of a clue than many grade-school kids.

I think it is stunning that after her debate faux pas she didn't bother to actually discover what it is the Constitution has in mind for the VP.

I thought Powell's description of the VP was closest to being the most accurate as far as duty - being prepared in case they have to assume office as President. Sadly she's apparently not prepared to teach the 3rd grade.
 
  • #723
Oops - gavel* (fixed)
 
  • #725
Maybe the make-up artists are paid on a cost-plus basis for materials. They sure have been troweling on the rouge...

The RNC also spent $4,716.49 on hair and makeup through September after reporting no such costs in August.
 
  • #726
phoenixy said:
RNC appears to shell out $150K for Palin fashion

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html

Superficial
According to financial disclosure records, the accessorizing began in early September and included bills from Saks Fifth Avenue in St. Louis and New York for a combined $49,425.74.
Well she spent at Saks about what half the people in the country make in one year. Median income in the US in 2007 for a household was $50,233, up from $49,580 in 2006.

The real median earnings of men who worked full time, year-round climbed between 2006 and 2007, from $43,460 to $45,113. For women, the corresponding increase was from $33,437 to $35,102.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/income_wealth/012528.html

The records also document a couple of big-time shopping trips to Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis, including one $75,062.63 spree in early September.

The RNC also spent $4,716.49 on hair and makeup through September after reporting no such costs in August.
:rolleyes: Of course, she doesn't pay taxes on it.
 
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  • #727
Astronuc said:
:rolleyes: Of course, she doesn't pay taxes on it.
Ah, the Ted Stevens defense! If you claim that they are not gifts, and continue to deny that you received gifts, then the gifts are NOT gifts and need not be reported, nor do you have to pay taxes on them. I am reminded of Humpty-Dumpty's dissertation about the meaning of words...
 
  • #728
Astronuc said:
Well she spent at Saks about what half the people in the country make in one year.

Well now she will have a fabulous wardrobe when she goes back to Alaska ... bought off the backs of the Republican donors.
 
  • #729
LowlyPion said:
Well now she will have a fabulous wardrobe when she goes back to Alaska ... bought off the backs of the Republican donors.
No - then she would have to pay taxes - if she kept the clothes. I imagine she's just borrowing them.

Isn't it nice to rich friends. :biggrin:


If you don't have someone lavishing you with a $150 K wardrobe, then you just haven't worked hard enough. :wink:
 
  • #730
Common guys stay on topic! This almost sounds like the Clinton hair cut drama. You better look your best and I have no problem with the money spend there.
 
  • #731
phoenixy said:
AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel

These people are suppose to be anti-corruption?
Maybe she's trying out socialism. She's allowing taxpayers to share their wealth with her children. :biggrin:

Certainly makes one wonder what she'd do as VP.
 
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  • #732
Astronuc said:
Certainly makes one wonder what she'd do as VP.

She already told us what she will do as VP during debate and interviews. Recap right here.



Basically, she is convinced that she be a better palpatine than Cheney.
 
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  • #733
Here's more on Palin misinforming third graders about the role of VP. Anyone voting for McCain/Palin, please explain to me how you can do that when Palin doesn't even know what the VP does.

The subject of the vice president's duties came up as Palin sat for an interview with KUSA-TV in Denver, which has a feature called "Question from the Third Grade." The interviewer asked, "Brandon Garcia wants to know, 'What does the vice president do?'"

"That's a great question, Brandon, and a vice president has a really great job, because not only are they there to support the president's agenda, they're like the team member, the team mate to that president," Palin said.

"But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom. And it's a great job and I look forward to having that job," she said.
WRONG.

The vice president's main duty is to replace the president if the president dies, resigns, is removed from office or can no longer carry out his or her duties for other reasons. The Constitution names the vice president as the president of the Senate but allows the vice president to cast a vote only to break a tie.

The vice president, as a member of the executive branch of the government, has no official role in developing legislation or determining how it is presented to or debated by the Senate, which is part of the legislative branch. In all meaningful ways, the leader of the majority party runs the Senate.

Traditionally, the vice president appears in the Senate for ceremonial events and in case of a tie vote. Although the vice president can preside over the Senate, vice presidents have left that day-to-day chore to senators themselves. In the past, each president has determined the role of the vice president in an administration.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081022/ap_on_el_pr/palin_vice_president_s_job
 
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  • #734
Traditionally, the vice president appears in the Senate for ceremonial events and in case of a tie vote. Although the vice president can preside over the Senate, vice presidents have left that day-to-day chore to senators themselves. In the past, each president has determined the role of the vice president in an administration.
Maybe Palin plans to change the role and become an 'activist' VP, just like the 'activist' judges that conservatives deride.
 
  • #735
Astronuc said:
Maybe Palin plans to change the role and become an 'activist' VP, just like the 'activist' judges that conservatives deride.
Oh, I am sure will try anything.
 

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