What are the Key Factors for Victory in the 2008 Presidential Election?

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In summary, the key factors for victory in the 2008 Presidential Election were the candidates' ability to connect with voters, the state of the economy and the overall political climate, and the use of effective campaign strategies. Barack Obama's strong message of hope and change resonated with many Americans, while John McCain struggled to distance himself from the unpopular incumbent president, George W. Bush. The economic crisis of 2008 also played a significant role, with many voters looking for a candidate who could offer solutions to the financial struggles facing the country. Additionally, Obama's effective use of social media and grassroots organizing helped him secure a strong base of support and ultimately win the election.

Who will win the General Election?

  • Obama by over 15 Electoral Votes

    Votes: 16 50.0%

  • Obama by under 15 Electoral Votes

    Votes: 6 18.8%

  • McCain by over 15 Electoral Votes

    Votes: 4 12.5%

  • McCain by under 15 Electoral Votes

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • Total voters
    32
  • #946
And now there's Oppy...

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/cc65ed650d/ron-howards-call-to-action-from-ron-howard-and-henry-winkler

Is no one going to vote for McCain?
 
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  • #947
OmCheeto said:
Is no one going to vote for McCain?
Hard to believe that anyone would still vote for him.
 
  • #948
OmCheeto said:
Is no one going to vote for McCain?
I think he is still polling a few% ahead among republicans, but that could change.
 
  • #949
Now now... it ain't over till it's over!
 
  • #950
Astronuc said:
I'm impressed with Shepard Smith and his challenge to Wurzelbacher.

There's the headline on the Huffington Post, "Fox's Shepard Smith Forced To Offer Disclaimer After Joe The Plumber Interview," which I don't see as the case. Smith allowed Wurzelbacher to state his claim, challenged it, and then disputed it. McCain's campaign were the ones making the disclaimer. Maybe Fox is getting some credibility back!

Transcript of exchange between Smith and Wurzelbacher - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/foxs-shepard-smith-forced_n_138674.html

At the end Smith says, "I just want to make this 100 percent perfectly clear -- Barack Obama has said and demonstrated repeatedly that Israel will always be a friend of the United States, no matter what happens once he becomes President of the United States. His words. The rest of it -- man...some things--it just gets frightening sometimes."

Cheers to Shepard Smith on that one!

He maybe the only credible person there. They still employ Sean 'Let Me Pierce You With My Stern American Eyes and Pseudo-Intellectualism" Hannity and Bill O'Tool.
 
  • #951
Ladies and gentlemen, tapegate

LA Times withhold video, McCain cries

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/The_LA_Times_explains.html
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/McCain_camp_demands_LA_Times_video.html?showall

Man it's so sad. Why can't LA times release the tape so that McCain can chop it up into a fresh new smear ad? No one needs to know the part where Obama said he didn't agree with the speaker, but it's important to note that not all of his associates are white nor as smart as Joe the Plumber.

Who is Barack Obama? What are his associations? Who cut his hair? During a time of economic crisis and looming election, apparently there are no stupid questions.
 
  • #952
You got to hand it to Charlie Crist. He has extended hours for early voting in FL from 8 to 12 hours a day, despite GOP concerns that providing extra voting time will result in more Democratic votes. Crist's policy is running counter to the GOP program designed to suppress the vote.
 
  • #953
Great Obama commercial last night, just stating what his plans are. Then came two ugly back to back smear ads from McCain. The level of these ads couldn't be more telling. Obama, assured and presidential, McCain sending a message of desperation.
 
  • #954
Evo said:
Great Obama commercial last night, just stating what his plans are. Then came two ugly back to back smear ads from McCain. The level of these ads couldn't be more telling. Obama, assured and presidential, McCain sending a message of desperation.


Apparently Barack is coming out with an ad against McCain. May be negative, but makes a good point.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/29/palin-targeted-in-new-obama-ad/
 
  • #955
It's a pretty good ad.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1185304443/bctid1885474357
 
  • #956
Are you allowed to copy the other side's ads on the basis that it is a comment.
Could you run one of their attack ads with your candidate just laughing over the top of it?
 
  • #957
Look at the desperation of this Liddy Dole ad in NC. When she was at the Red Cross she seemed a capable administrator. But this kind of ridiculous smear tactic almost demands that she be removed from office. There is no place for this kind of thing in any campaign cycle. That she supports this kind of thing, surely speaks volumes about her ethics and desperation to cling to power. I'd say Liddy Dole just joined John McCain in selling her soul to the dark side. Where once stood honor and respect in my mind, now stands deceit and shame. May they both be retired from office and swept out to their deserved retirements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lf2vDk-4Ag
 
  • #958
mgb_phys said:
Are you allowed to copy the other side's ads on the basis that it is a comment.
Could you run one of their attack ads with your candidate just laughing over the top of it?

Yes, but it wouldn't be very effective.
 
  • #959
LowlyPion said:
Look at the desperation of this Liddy Dole ad in NC. When she was at the Red Cross she seemed a capable administrator. But this kind of ridiculous smear tactic almost demands that she be removed from office. There is no place for this kind of thing in any campaign cycle. That she supports this kind of thing, surely speaks volumes about her ethics and desperation to cling to power. I'd say Liddy Dole just joined John McCain in selling her soul to the dark side. Where once stood honor and respect in my mind, now stands deceit and shame. May they both be retired from office and swept out to their deserved retirements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lf2vDk-4Ag

Isn't it interesting that alleged "people of faith" turn to hate and fear to promote their message. Instead of a throw-the-bums out election, we need a throw-the-fruitcakes-out election.
 
  • #960
Interesting movement.

http://www.palin4president2008.com/

Our only chance on November 4th is if all True Patriots Write-in Governor Sarah Palin as your choice for President of the United States!

That would make it a 3 party race in 2008.

I'm sure McCain is thrilled about this.
 
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  • #961
LowlyPion said:
Interesting movement.

http://www.palin4president2008.com/



That would make it a 3 party race in 2008.

I'm sure McCain is thrilled about this.
Looks like just the kind of web-site a sharp Progressive activist would design.
 
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  • #962
Palin supporters should take their advice and write-in Palin. That is a great idea!
 
  • #963
Ivan Seeking said:
Palin supporters should take their advice and write-in Palin. That is a great idea!
Write in Palin with Ron Paul as VP!
 
  • #964
Our only chance on November 4th is if all True Patriots Write-in Governor Sarah Palin as your choice for President of the United States!
Could you return Alaska to the Russians for store credit?

Did you keep the receipt?
 
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  • #965
Isn't it interesting that Palin and McCain can't even get through the election before Palin goes rogue, and her supporters are trying to subvert the ticket. Eight weeks ago we had never even heard of her. What kind of stunts would she be pulling after a couple of years?

I always wanted to see Alaska, but not any more!
 
  • #966
CNN just moved Colorado from undecided, to leaning Obama.

Trivia question: Who is responsible for the standard "Red State Blue State" map?
 
  • #967
Ivan Seeking said:
CNN just moved Colorado from undecided, to leaning Obama.

Trivia question: Who is responsible for the standard "Red State Blue State" map?

...without using Google...wasn't it Tim Russert?
 
  • #968
Oh yes, I am thrilled to say that, at last, I have cast my vote for Barack Obama, in early voting.

I normally don't believe in voting a straight ticket, but until the Republicans regain respectability as the party of conservatives and dissociate from the fascists and zealots, I will not vote for ANY Republican. It sure made voting easy this year!
 
  • #969
lisab said:
...without using Google...wasn't it Tim Russert?

Correct! He was the master.
 
  • #970
Oh yes, get this: There was an initiative on the ballot that would mandate an automatic "no" vote, for all local initiatives where a person chose not to vote.
 
  • #971
Ivan Seeking said:
Oh yes, get this: There was an initiative on the ballot that would mandate an automatic "no" vote, for all local initiatives where a person chose not to vote.

That's outrageous! Plus, so easy to manipulate. You would just have to word the initiative so that a "no" means "yes."
 
  • #972
turbo-1 said:
It's a pretty good ad.

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1185304443/bctid1885474357
Got to love cutting to Palin there.

I hope Obama's 30 minute speech tonight comes across well. It seems pretty unanimous that it's a good idea. Any thoughts on it?
 
  • #973
lisab said:
That's outrageous! Plus, so easy to manipulate. You would just have to word the initiative so that a "no" means "yes."

The local politics around here are as crooked as it gets. When we bought our place, the main road for the area [estates] was gravel. Eventually we were forced to pay for road paving [a few thousand bucks] by a majority vote of the neighbors, which was fine. But then we caught the county trying to link our project to two others, which would mean that we would pay for cost overruns on other projects [I caught that one thanks to a friend in politics]. Then we caught them trying to make us pay for a heavy-truck rated road, instead of a standard residential road, so that logging companies could get access to the trees in the hills behind us.
 
  • #974
Evo said:
I hope Obama's 30 minute speech tonight comes across well. It seems pretty unanimous that it's a good idea. Any thoughts on it?

I am sure that, like the rest of his campaign, it will be great!

One of the best measures of a candidate is his ability to organize and run a campaign. By many measures of that, Obama has run the best campaign in history.
 
  • #976
The Evo Child says that when she thinks of McPalin winning that it actually frightens her. I'm frightened too.

I keep telling myself it's just an uneducated, lunatic fringe that refer to themselves as "christians" that are once again making themselves look larger than life by being more vocal, and it's not a significant number of Americans that actually think Palin could be a qualified candidate.

This woman cannot even complete a sentence.
Palin said:
There it was, where he talked about, though, his desire, it sounded like, for redistributing wealth.

This can't be happening. It can't be real, like John Cleese said, it's something Monty Python would dream up. But it "is" real, this woman is actually up for election to the second highest office and a heartbeat away form being President of this country. Can you imagine?
 
  • #977
Evo said:
The Evo Child says that when she thinks of McPalin winning that it actually frightens her. I'm frightened too.

I keep telling myself it's just an uneducated, lunatic fringe that refer to themselves as "christians" that are once again making themselves look larger than life by being more vocal, and it's not a significant number of Americans that actually think Palin could be a qualified candidate.

This woman cannot even complete a sentence.

This can't be happening. It can't be real, like John Cleese said, it's something Monty Python would dream up. But it "is" real, this woman is actually up for election to the second highest office and a heartbeat away form being President of this country. Can you imagine?

This is do or die time for the US. We have reached the fork in the road.
 
  • #978
Ivan Seeking said:
This is do or die time for the US. We have reached the fork in the road.

Not only for the US...
Unfortunately we others can't do much but hope not more than half of america consist of christian lunatics.
 
  • #979
turbo-1 said:
Looks like just the kind of web-site a sharp Progressive activist would design.

Encouraging a Palin write-in is certainly a cleaner dirty trick than trying to tell people if you are Democratic you are directed to vote Wednesday.
 
  • #980
Evo said:
I hope Obama's 30 minute speech tonight comes across well. It seems pretty unanimous that it's a good idea. Any thoughts on it?

Basically it shouldn't hurt. It will give him wide exposure and some undecideds will likely become more comfortable with him. I think the more Presidential he looks the better people can imagine him in the Oval Office. You know like when you are house selling it's better to have some furniture and picture book settings and bread in the oven and a fire in the fireplace to help the buyers visualize what they are buying better.
 

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